trenchfoot 4,243 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Yes I'd like an honest reply please Y.I.S Leeview When we spoke to Tim, the steering group were lead to believe that Alan was up to speed on the role of the steering group and that he had had email discussions with 2 members of that group. I even asked him openly on this forum if he was aware of the agenda. I got no answer as the thread was locked. All discussions with Tim were based about the vision for LAGBI as a new group. He agreed with the plan that we presented and the path that was chosen. When asked about Alan and the ALC, he said "thats down to you and Alan to sort out". The first thing after that meeting to sort out was a direct contact with Alan to see what involvement he wanted going forward. We attempted to do that. We have still heard nothing back. With regards to the plan B, you are right. We did not have one. We did not need one. Our objective was to investigate the opportunities with the CA and other parties and then present the findings as a detailed package to the rest of those interested from the start. We did that. Some of those interested parties have chosen to ignore the work that those that started it wanted to be done. So you were speaking with Tim on the 15th of October and the said topic was locked on the 9th September, "the steering group were lead to believe that Alan was up to speed" who lead you to believe that? Y.I.S Leeview Alan Tyers courser Born Hunter Members 122 posts Location:Bury Lancs Posted 08 September 2015 - 02:00 PM Desertbred, I fully concur with your last post and as I already knew, you have a lot to offer. I look forward to our cup of tea (and if we are lucky, my wife Barbara might supply some cake) People like yourself and others, Leeview, flynn, Giro, Dewclaw69 and others that I may have missed, sorry if I have, are the backbone of any endeavor to bring about change. In the first instance, subject to agreement, I put forward the name "the Alliance for the Working Longdog" This would be the name to be used by a steering group to get the ball rolling. I have the documentation needed to present "the Alliance for the Working Longdog" as a viable organisation. I will just need to make some changes and with the help of a steering group that, if agreed opon, will start the ball rolling until a committee can voted upon and we can get the day to day items sorted out.. In the first instance, I ask if you the lurcher/longdog owners wants this, If so please let me know. Thanks, must go to Giro for starting all this with his post. "Festina Lente" Alan Tyer 1 Link to post
South hams hunter 8,921 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Appreciate it mate, was nice to talk to an adult about it Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) Having waited for a response from Alan Tyer re= moving forward regarding co-operation and receiving a negative terse response we are now moving forward our selves and those whom have registered an interest will be notified of the next steps and asked for their input. Any new potential members are welcome to Contact Dewclaw69 or Sandymere for more information or to put forward offers of help or suggest what things they want to highlight ATB Edited October 28, 2015 by desertbred 4 Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 When you read this thread.....you can't blame the CA for not taking us seriously. :blink: Peoples front of Judea I think your mixed up some on here don't take the CA seriously when it comes to lurchers atb AT No AT. I think it is you that is mixed up. Believe me, we need the CA more than they need us. And, besides,the reason we can hunt with lurcher still is down to the CA. They have done more for lurcherwork than any other organisation, by simply giving us a clause to work our dogs. Without them we would not have been able to work lurchers at all. So the next time the CA is getting condemmed, that's worth remembering. And while some blame the CA for 'allowing' the Ban to go through, I ask one question: How could they stop the Parliament Act being implimented? They couldn't. So let us not blame them for Tony Blairs deeds. Like I have said many times; the way ahead is unity, a solid united front.Safety in numbers. IMO. All the best.....JD 2 Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 AT I get where your coming from.. I have myself not been intirely happy with the CA and in fact have felt pretty let down. This is something that both clubs have raised and hopefully now with some joint working we can resolve.. For some it may take some time to warm up to the CA. Hopefully the prove will be in the pudding. . I believe the CA will come through on this. As for the differences, be it political or personal, between the two lurcher clubs, we will just have to draw a line in the sand. I think on this thread, there has be some good thought provoking questions and they need answered. AWL will be a club for the members.. We can't sustain and recruit members if we can not demonstrate productivity. AnyOne intrested please contact through the website, facebook or email. http://www.awll.co.uk/wp/ https://m.(!64.56:886/The-Association-for-the-Working-LurcherLongdogs-342517515297/ awl.association@gmail.com Responses will not be automatic, However we will will endeavour to respond as quickly as possible. South ham I believe your email was received and replied too. All intrested parties wishing to join or make donations, have been asked to hold fire for now. The Subs will be £ 11 annually. For those who have contacted us, thank you. We will make a update as soon as possible. For lads and lasses siting on the fence. We understand and we will be working towards building our reputation and gaining your respect. Finally I personally hold no ill feeling towards the other group or individual members. I see no point picking fights within our own ranks.. Onwards and upwards. Happy Hunting.. 4 Link to post
paulus 26 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 no link to THL then Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 pp Yes Skycat, Trenchfoot, Desertbred, Mushroom and myself with support from some decent people here and elsewhere. . As I said in the PM, three of those asked me to contact you hence the PM, I honestly believe that no group will get anywhere by playing games or refusing to work with other groups.Thank You Kindly, i will pass it on. Hi,Trying to pm you sandymere. Pm box must be full. Atb Cleared some space and sent you a PM Link to post
dodger 2,754 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 I don't think anything that bad has been said on this thread just points made questions and advice put forward by members to both groups to maybe see how each group reacts and responds from it all, I think it was a good thing testing the water so to speak, some of what was mentioned and put forward was handled in a good profesional manner by those starting the groups and some buckled amongst it but hopefully learned something from it, now atleast the cards are on the table and it's got everyone's attention, everybody knows about it and I think it will calm down now and hopefully move forward in the best positive way possible.. 7 Link to post
paulus 26 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 no link to THL then edited to add, a bit rich that, given all the links you have put up on here to your site and FB page.......... Link to post
Giro 2,648 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 (edited) no link to THL then edited to add, a bit rich that, given all the links you have put up on here to your site and FB page.......... We shall be adding links to our pages. Directing people to credible forums, feild sports magazines & Web pages. It's in hand. Thanks for your intrest Paulice.. Edited October 28, 2015 by Giro Link to post
courser 73 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 The A.W.L. exist to promote ALL work with crossbred and purebred sight. We are your voice, and as such we invite ALL individuals and clubs to join us to fight for (In the first instance, for a repeal of the hunting ban) the working Lurcher/Longdog at the highest level. We must work with Landowners, Farmers, Government bodies and the public at large to show that we are a well organised governing body that has, in the first instance, the future of the working Lurcher/Longdog in all it's forms at heart and that we also support all other forms of hunting. We will not stop fighting for a repeal until legal hunting, in all it's forms is returned to legality. http:www.awll.co.uk/wp/ Alan Tyer Chairman A.W.L. 3 Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Lads irrespective of what hound/whippet x you work the vast majority use their dog sin the role of lurchers, hunting by site ,scent and hearing , Many folk keep working and retired lurchers and also large numbers keep them as companions and dont actually work their dogs in the traditional sence. All lurcher owners have a right to be heard and represented on the various forums and bodies out there , LAGBI was as a result of a need expressed by owners from a wide variety of backgrounds that they felt unrepresented and voiceless all though some claimed to be doing that job of representation thats for people to judge for themselves, Lagbi The Lurcher Association of Great Britain and Ireland is you association it was requested by many came into being to fullfill the need for across the board open and clear representation. Times move on different campaigns have come and gone some fought hard and long struggles and some gave up. Now its 2015 heading towards 2016 time is now for modern thinking and action to include all lurcher lovers to ensure every aspect of lurcher owning is catered for not just specific areas. Assaid come forward with your ideas your desires ,your requirements, your expectations LAGBI is yours to use and develop.as you want to, dont be just a number on a register and be expected to follow blindly participate from the Top down to grass roots LAGBI is for you. LAGBI is the future of Country activities and lurcher ownership you owe it to you lurchers and yourselves to be represented. by a fresh considerate association that belongs to like minded folk Contact Dewclaw69 ,Sandymere, Trenchfoot , Skycat , Desertbred for futher information or advice. If you want submit any article or contribution to the new Web site which is now under development you are more than welcome any one willputyou in touch with the web developer. ATB Good luck to AWLL formerly ALC in their efforts 1 Link to post
TOMO 26,071 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 This has took some following I have to admit... Giro are you with the awl now,,,.? 2 Link to post
scottish lurcher 185 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 This has took some following I have to admit... Giro are you with the awl now,,,.? my heeds bursting can't keep up totally confused .com Link to post
South hams hunter 8,921 Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Coursers what makes awll the governing body? Link to post
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