sandymere 8,263 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) I have conversed with Alan, he states ' If The steering group, have formed as a club they are more then welcome to join the AWL, or as individuals, as is the right of any others.' I take that as you declining the offer to meet and discuss how we can move things forward? Edited October 27, 2015 by sandymere Link to post
Flynn 314 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 One thing ive found is both groups seem quite self loving and rather ignorant to quite open questions and unless they feel it benefits them this very minute they dont care. Please dont make assumptions S H H. When one is passion driven for the greater good, You have to think out side the stereotypical box. Humans will be humans after, that in its very nature is never easy to become unattached to what You know is right. As we ( the ALC) have a mixed bag of ages on board, with forward thinking the the ball is forever rolling, us older ones welcome such enthusiasm. also S H H i did get Your pm.it best left there Link to post
Flynn 314 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I have conversed with Alan, he states ' If The steering group, have formed as a club they are more then welcome to join the AWL, or as individuals, as is the right of any others.' I take that as you declining the offer to meet and discuss how we can move things forward? Alan has given me the above quote, thats as it stands. Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) Sandymere do you understand the response ?was it relevant to the question you asked, as everyone now appears to have ignored any semblance of protocol are we now discussing everything on the open forum?if so it must apply to all. subjects and discussions. I always thought committees and groups were selected or elected to make decisions on behalf of a group but it seems to be a new way to just post and discuss.then criticise for washing dirty linen in public or bringing the lurcher group into disrepute really must be something I have missed. Edited October 27, 2015 by desertbred Link to post
dodger 2,765 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Sandymere do you understand the response ?was it relevant to the question you asked, as everyone now appears to have ignored any semblance of protocol are we now discussing everything on the open forum?if so it must apply to all. subjects and discussions. I always thought committees and groups were selected or elected to make decisions on behalf of a group but it seems to be a new way to just post and discuss.then criticise for washing dirty linen in public or bringing the lurcher group into disrepute really must be something I have missed. But nothing is established yet is it mate, this thread was started to create interest on the club and now clubs wasn't it surly when it or there up and running things may be as you say.. Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 this is my message "Sent Today, 09:53 AM Hi, I have been asked by (real names removed) Desertbred, Skycat and Trenchfoot to make a formal request of a meeting between the two groups. I believe you are the secretary of the AWL so thought you could forward this to Alan et al and get back to me. Regards nigel." this followed a short discourse throughout which i was courteous and sought an end to the self-harm of an open battle between, what I hoped, were two groups set up with a similar purpose, the latter contains some personal information about my family hence i have not posted this but would be happy to do so with the personal stuff removed so there are no more accusations of secrecy. Link to post
South hams hunter 8,924 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 One thing ive found is both groups seem quite self loving and rather ignorant to quite open questions and unless they feel it benefits them this very minute they dont care. South hams I have and will continue to happily answer any questions as far as Im able, and if my memory serves me correctly I have offered you to contact me via facebook to that end in the past if you felt that a better method. I did that sandmere. Not had anything back Link to post
South hams hunter 8,924 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 One thing ive found is both groups seem quite self loving and rather ignorant to quite open questions and unless they feel it benefits them this very minute they dont care. Please dont make assumptions S H H. When one is passion driven for the greater good, You have to think out side the stereotypical box. Humans will be humans after, that in its very nature is never easy to become unattached to what You know is right. As we ( the ALC) have a mixed bag of ages on board, with forward thinking the the ball is forever rolling, us older ones welcome such enthusiasm. also S H H i did get Your pm.it best left there I haven't received a reply to an email asking how I pay subs for a start . I understand fb wouldn't allow you to reply or whatever it was Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Sandymere do you understand the response ?was it relevant to the question you asked, as everyone now appears to have ignored any semblance of protocol are we now discussing everything on the open forum?if so it must apply to all. subjects and discussions. I always thought committees and groups were selected or elected to make decisions on behalf of a group but it seems to be a new way to just post and discuss.then criticise for washing dirty linen in public or bringing the lurcher group into disrepute really must be something I have missed. But nothing is established yet is it mate, this thread was started to create interest on the club and now clubs wasn't it surly when it or there up and running things may be as you say.. There was a much longer and detailed thread posted originally when Lagbi first came from an idea mooted by Giro Then Dewclaw69 got on board plus lots of others. ALC then rose like a phoenix and Lagbi was formed so it moved on to a steering group for Lagbi a meeting was arranged with C/A then ALC revealed a new name AWLL and rolled out its committee or at least blew off the cobwebs, So it was much further on than this Topic and this is a product of ping and pong for several weeks. so things were in motion to move up a step but once again intransigence has scuppered progress 2 Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 One thing ive found is both groups seem quite self loving and rather ignorant to quite open questions and unless they feel it benefits them this very minute they dont care.South hams I have and will continue to happily answer any questions as far as Im able, and if my memory serves me correctly I have offered you to contact me via facebook to that end in the past if you felt that a better method.I did that sandmere. Not had anything back I didn't get a message but I'm new to facebook so may have missed it, i will have a look and get back to you or I'm happy to Pm you my number if that would be helpful. nigel Link to post
dodger 2,765 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Sandymere do you understand the response ?was it relevant to the question you asked, as everyone now appears to have ignored any semblance of protocol are we now discussing everything on the open forum?if so it must apply to all. subjects and discussions. I always thought committees and groups were selected or elected to make decisions on behalf of a group but it seems to be a new way to just post and discuss.then criticise for washing dirty linen in public or bringing the lurcher group into disrepute really must be something I have missed. But nothing is established yet is it mate, this thread was started to create interest on the club and now clubs wasn't it surly when it or there up and running things may be as you say.. There was a much longer and detailed thread posted originally when Lagbi first came from an idea mooted by Giro Then Dewclaw69 got on board plus lots of others. ALC then rose like a phoenix and Lagbi was formed so it moved on to a steering group for Lagbi a meeting was arranged with C/A then ALC revealed a new name AWLL and rolled out its committee or at least blew off the cobwebs, So it was much further on than this Topic and this is a product of ping and pong for several weeks. so things were in motion to move up a step but once again intransigence has scuppered progress Youse have been poached lol ; ) Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 wouldnt be the first time Link to post
paulus 26 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 same old, same old thats probably why the ALC ended up as a one man band for the last couple of decades, we need change not more of the same, the i am the club and you will join or we will not talk to you is petty old school club crap, take a step back, look at your dogs, think what the future hold and ffs all work as one to secure their future, if you can not contemplate change then perhaps its time to stand aside and let some new blood take hold of the stick and give it a go. Link to post
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 So GIRO who started the ball rolling is with the AWL is that right Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 this is my message "Sent Today, 09:53 AM Hi, I have been asked by (real names removed) Desertbred, Skycat and Trenchfoot to make a formal request of a meeting between the two groups. I believe you are the secretary of the AWL so thought you could forward this to Alan et al and get back to me. Regards nigel." this followed a short discourse throughout which i was courteous and sought an end to the self-harm of an open battle between, what I hoped, were two groups set up with a similar purpose, the latter contains some personal information about my family hence i have not posted this but would be happy to do so with the personal stuff removed so there are no more accusations of secrecy. What you mean by personal stuff? As in personal insults and the like? Not wanting any details but if this getting into the realms of personal gripes/dislikes etc then I'd not be comfortable joining either club tbh. Link to post
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