WILF 46,965 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Everybody lives by their own rules as long as they are true to themself then theres no right or wrong answer in my opinion......i couldnt do it and still be able to look in the mirror....but i accept some people can as not everyone lives by my rules....simple. Difference is mate (and excuse me if I am talking out of turn) but from your posts your may have moved in certain circles and been privy to a way of life that is million miles away from most ordinary blokes who go off to the factory every morning and mow the lawn on Sunday. That's my point, I have a strong feeling you are aware that things happen differently in certain circles as its a part of everyday life. 99% of people don't have any idea about all that so for them, your always best staying on the same side of the fence that you live your everyday life on if you get my drift. You don't go from being a plumber in the day to cutting bits off people in a van of an evening. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,922 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 I don't see what it would achieve, lamping hares is no more illegal than daywalking. If you would ring old bill on people coursing in a field then you've answered your own question but why the need to ask a public forum? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 So you still can't answer the two questions? Yes, having the authorities deal with them is ending their freedom to commit the crimes. It's a fact it's much more rigorous than your method. Which is ignorance or vigilantism. Clearly our morality differs greatly. I couldn't mind my own business on the issues we are talking about. Allowing this false honour to get in the way of justice and security of an innocent person is morally repugnant. But you're too naive to see how that's possible. You're at it again. The authorities end their freedom. Haha. What planet you on. Ring the old bill and report a crime. See if it "ends their freedom". They might pop round a week on Thursday. They might even end up in court. A fine maybe? Or a suspended sentence. If you are lucky. Don't call me naive when you are coming out with that nonsense. Some of us live in the real world. Are we talking about different things? When was the last time a rapist got a fine and had to sweep the streets? A terrorist? A murderer? Etc. It's like you're actually trying to be obtuse! So not only can't you figure out how it's possible that a person could find themselves with the knowledge of such a criminal but now you think they get a slap on the wrist and allowed to carry on raping the local teenagers! Realist eh...... Yeh that's how it works fella. You ring the police because you suspect someone of a crime and they say "oh yes Mr B. hunter we will arrest them straight away and send them to prison for 25 years". Lol. Do you know how many known rapists are out there wandering the streets? Places like Bradford are rife with them. You think grassing on them is gonna help? They've been in court and walked out free. Same for terrorists. Same for most other crimes. Anyway. Let's get back to the topic. Would you grass on someone for lamping hares? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Playing devils advocate here.. For the gentlemen who go down the Won't ever grass route, if you knew about the abuse and devestation that the likes of Saville caused or Ian Huntley would you not let the police and or media know possibly stopping them in the process etc? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Everybody lives by their own rules as long as they are true to themself then theres no right or wrong answer in my opinion......i couldnt do it and still be able to look in the mirror....but i accept some people can as not everyone lives by my rules....simple. Difference is mate (and excuse me if I am talking out of turn) but from your posts your may have moved in certain circles and been privy to a way of life that is million miles away from most ordinary blokes who go off to the factory every morning and mow the lawn on Sunday. That's my point, I have a strong feeling you are aware that things happen differently in certain circles as its a part of everyday life. 99% of people don't have any idea about all that so for them, your always best staying on the same side of the fence that you live your everyday life on if you get my drift. You don't go from being a plumber in the day to cutting bits off people in a van of an evening. Not at all Wilf....when i say i couldnt look myself in the mirror.....i also couldnt look myself in the mirror for turning a blind eye and doing nothing in certain situations.....like i say i dont think theres a right or wrong answer for anyone..............................anyway i got myself a nice new mower this year my lawns immaculate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,539 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 No I've never done it but I've had I'd done to me before once when I was younger.let's just saying got my own back in a different way Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 (edited) Playing devils advocate here.. For the gentlemen who go down the Won't ever grass route, if you knew about the abuse and devestation that the likes of Saville caused or Ian Huntley would you not let the police and or media know possibly stopping them in the process etc? Thats the standard question thrown up in these type debates and i,ll give an analogy if i may.........its like asking someone to be gay......much as its unnatural to have sex with another man.....if your life depended on it you "could " do it..............however you would simply find any other way of getting out of the situation before bending over Edited October 6, 2015 by gnasher16 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Playing devils advocate here.. For the gentlemen who go down the Won't ever grass route, if you knew about the abuse and devestation that the likes of Saville caused or Ian Huntley would you not let the police and or media know possibly stopping them in the process etc? Thats the standard question thrown up in these type debates and i,ll give an analogy if i may.........its like asking someone to be gay......much as its unnatural to have sex with another man.....if your life depended on it you "could " do it..............however you would simply find any other way of getting out of the situation before bending over Good post that ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ideation 8,216 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 As said, in this case . . . . no. It won't help the hares, and it won't help the sport. But in general, I hate the morons who think reporting anything at all is a grass. I believe the classic thl line on the topic was something like "grasses are as bad as peados". . . . . . . if you think like that you need to take a good look at yourself! I agree with the last statement mate but can you tell me the difference between reporting someone and grassing someone ? Why would anyone want to "report" anything? More people need to mind their own business. The only exception is child abuse. And then I can think of better solutions than ringing someone. Ok. . . . .I accept that you and many others would quite like to come across like some kind of ninja vigilantee hardman over the internet. . . . . But lets face it, in many cases, those that observe these kind of things, genuine wrong doing etc, i.e child abuse, animal abuse etc, are not able to "go round an batter" the perpetrator, or perhaps they may not wish to (i.e they have previous convictions, Fire Arms certs, or a job that would instantly be lost). What should they do? Just ignore it and do nothing for fear of being a 'grass'? And what if, by reporting it to the police, a greater investigation would occur, netting a lot more evil scum, than the single bloke you'd 'sort out'. I have never had occasion to report anything to the police and generally avoid them, but I pay taxes, and it'd be nice to think they were actually out there harassing real bad guys. So why not report somethings? Oh yer, wait. . . . someone on the internet might not think i'm hard or 'real'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosun11 537 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 See to me the worst thing about Facebook can also be the best... No moderation! So, if your so hung up on the hare's, then in the strongest manner you can muster, call the perpitrator a fecking bellend and tell him the error of his ways.... Resulting in you both having a huge slanging match but hey ho, it's only the internet... (Though, if you feel so strongly you can't contain yourself, his names already up, probs his hometown too, so find out a bit more and get round there and tw@t him... Job done!!!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Playing devils advocate here.. For the gentlemen who go down the Won't ever grass route, if you knew about the abuse and devestation that the likes of Saville caused or Ian Huntley would you not let the police and or media know possibly stopping them in the process etc? Thats the standard question thrown up in these type debates and i,ll give an analogy if i may.........its like asking someone to be gay......much as its unnatural to have sex with another man.....if your life depended on it you "could " do it..............however you would simply find any other way of getting out of the situation before bending over Lol, you're right about the standard question but I think there are some people who'll go down the line 'Well I'd sort it" etc but wouldn't have the know how, means or opportunity to carry out certain acts of retribution. It's not aimed at anyone in particular just when it comes to the crunch how many could do the crime and possibly the time. The gay sex thing nah bugger that pardon the pun. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Playing devils advocate here.. For the gentlemen who go down the Won't ever grass route, if you knew about the abuse and devestation that the likes of Saville caused or Ian Huntley would you not let the police and or media know possibly stopping them in the process etc? Thats the standard question thrown up in these type debates and i,ll give an analogy if i may.........its like asking someone to be gay......much as its unnatural to have sex with another man.....if your life depended on it you "could " do it..............however you would simply find any other way of getting out of the situation before bending over Lol, you're right about the standard question but I think there are some people who'll go down the line 'Well I'd sort it" etc but wouldn't have the know how, means or opportunity to carry out certain acts of retribution. It's not aimed at anyone in particular just when it comes to the crunch how many could do the crime and possibly the time. The gay sex thing nah bugger that pardon the pun. Theres not a town or city in the land that doesnt have a local lunatic itching to get hold of a nonce.......in many areas a wrongun would rather have plod knocking at his door with evidence than the locals ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,775 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Playing devils advocate here.. For the gentlemen who go down the Won't ever grass route, if you knew about the abuse and devestation that the likes of Saville caused or Ian Huntley would you not let the police and or media know possibly stopping them in the process etc? Thats the standard question thrown up in these type debates and i,ll give an analogy if i may.........its like asking someone to be gay......much as its unnatural to have sex with another man.....if your life depended on it you "could " do it..............however you would simply find any other way of getting out of the situation before bending over That's a very good analogy. I wanted to point out that just because grassing on someone is considered right it doesn't make it any more palatable. But walking the path your morality says is right was never meant to be easy. Honour, pride, love, desire, none of those selfish things should get in the way of doing the right thing. As you have have sort of said already, we all have to follow our own conscience and be true to ourselves. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 As said, in this case . . . . no. It won't help the hares, and it won't help the sport. But in general, I hate the morons who think reporting anything at all is a grass. I believe the classic thl line on the topic was something like "grasses are as bad as peados". . . . . . . if you think like that you need to take a good look at yourself! I agree with the last statement mate but can you tell me the difference between reporting someone and grassing someone ?Why would anyone want to "report" anything? More people need to mind their own business. The only exception is child abuse. And then I can think of better solutions than ringing someone. Ok. . . . .I accept that you and many others would quite like to come across like some kind of ninja vigilantee hardman over the internet. . . . . But lets face it, in many cases, those that observe these kind of things, genuine wrong doing etc, i.e child abuse, animal abuse etc, are not able to "go round an batter" the perpetrator, or perhaps they may not wish to (i.e they have previous convictions, Fire Arms certs, or a job that would instantly be lost). What should they do? Just ignore it and do nothing for fear of being a 'grass'? And what if, by reporting it to the police, a greater investigation would occur, netting a lot more evil scum, than the single bloke you'd 'sort out'. I have never had occasion to report anything to the police and generally avoid them, but I pay taxes, and it'd be nice to think they were actually out there harassing real bad guys. So why not report somethings? Oh yer, wait. . . . someone on the internet might not think i'm hard or 'real'. Not sure why or how minding my own business makes me a ninja hard man. I do my best to avoid trouble. Kind of the opposite of a "ninja vigilante hardman" as you put it. You've just said you've never had occasion to report anything to the police. That's because you've minded your own business. If you had of gone out of your way to find something to report then you would of found it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Playing devils advocate here.. For the gentlemen who go down the Won't ever grass route, if you knew about the abuse and devestation that the likes of Saville caused or Ian Huntley would you not let the police and or media know possibly stopping them in the process etc? Thats the standard question thrown up in these type debates and i,ll give an analogy if i may.........its like asking someone to be gay......much as its unnatural to have sex with another man.....if your life depended on it you "could " do it..............however you would simply find any other way of getting out of the situation before bending over Lol, you're right about the standard question but I think there are some people who'll go down the line 'Well I'd sort it" etc but wouldn't have the know how, means or opportunity to carry out certain acts of retribution. It's not aimed at anyone in particular just when it comes to the crunch how many could do the crime and possibly the time. The gay sex thing nah bugger that pardon the pun. Theres not a town or city in the land that doesnt have a local lunatic itching to get hold of a nonce.......in many areas a wrongun would rather have plod knocking at his door with evidence than the locals ! everybody should police there own areas for peados an sex deviants there no need for grassing in them cases either True on both accounts but just giving it some thought I'd say none of us or not many move in the same social circles as the majority of peados in the sense that they're mostly well thought of high flyers, well heeled for example doctors, businessmen, senior police, judiciary etc. Just look at the media for these international porn/abuse rings being uncovered. Yep, going off on a tangent lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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