Update On The National Lurcher Club.

[J Darcy 5,871]

The funny thing is; I went down to The Midland and discussed lurcher representation with the CA directly. I am doing them articles and pics for their site and their mag. They are in full support of legal lurcherwork. We are all under the same banner. I have supplied them with a code of conduct. IMO nothing more really needs to be done apart from joining up more members to the CA.

IMo if no one will fork out the cash to join CA then maybe a discounted rate for a 'region' could be applied, say a tenner a year per member for that region and then that region pays subs to the CA. I have not discussed this as yet, BUT, I think it is the best way.

 

IMO it is foolish to try and publicise lurcherwork more than it already is. We need to defend ourselves against the biggest threat, and thats the divis on the internet posting barbaric videos. There is only one way and that is through a code of conduct IMO.

[paulus 26]

 

 

 

Same old same old, we posted the broad aims of the group and if people would like to support it that would be good, if they feel they want to support another group or club that’s fine too, but get on and do something.

 

To my mind this is about our voice as much as anything else, we will get all the support we can from other organisations but we need a voice. In the recent discussions about hunting we didn’t get a mention or nod and if laws are being written then we could very easily lose what little we have as the pie is divided up amongst the hunts, shooting etc unless we sort ourselves out.

 

Then we need a platform to redress some of the bad publicity we have and will suffer in the future.

 

These seem pretty straightforward aims and a few have contacted already and I will get back to all.

 

Regards

there is only 1 post on what you were up to in what nearly a month on this forum and the OP has been removed completely WHY? how do we know whats been going on on the secret forum

Y.I.S Leeview

 

there is no secret forum and if there was it wouldn't be a secret if everyone knows about it

 

there is a hidden forum already set up on THL, i have asked ian to give me the ability to add members to it, we can then discuss on the site away from all the other posts on the threads

4th September you posted this

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and........................that means it has been done load of crap, yes there is an hidden forum, the ones the mods use. just thought it might stop all the distractions whilst the basics were put in place but as i said. it never happened.

[South hams hunter 8,921]

Sounds a better idea jd. Why make a new club when we could join a well established name that does the work already.

 

fb pages are whats killing us, 'SECRET PAGES' that they add every twat to. Look at stop terrier work, they have hundreds of pics of illegal hunting and names just from scrolling through facebook

[wild rover 548]

The funny thing is; I went down to The Midland and discussed lurcher representation with the CA directly. I am doing them articles and pics for their site and their mag. They are in full support of legal lurcherwork. We are all under the same banner. I have supplied them with a code of conduct. IMO nothing more really needs to be done apart from joining up more members to the CA.

IMo if no one will fork out the cash to join CA then maybe a discounted rate for a 'region' could be applied, say a tenner a year per member for that region and then that region pays subs to the CA. I have not discussed this as yet, BUT, I think it is the best way.

 

IMO it is foolish to try and publicise lurcherwork more than it already is. We need to defend ourselves against the biggest threat, and thats the divis on the internet posting barbaric videos. There is only one way and that is through a code of conduct IMO.

The CA will welcome you and your money like Arkwrights till, if it happens mate, sorry but I dont share your enthusiasm of Lurcher owners flocking to the CA, they will represent us but half hearted to swell the coffers, thats why all others retain their individual identity, Terriers, MFA, Coursing Club , self representation and a voice, as individual members you wont have that apart from being a member.

[paulus 26]

The funny thing is; I went down to The Midland and discussed lurcher representation with the CA directly. I am doing them articles and pics for their site and their mag. They are in full support of legal lurcherwork. We are all under the same banner. I have supplied them with a code of conduct. IMO nothing more really needs to be done apart from joining up more members to the CA.

IMo if no one will fork out the cash to join CA then maybe a discounted rate for a 'region' could be applied, say a tenner a year per member for that region and then that region pays subs to the CA. I have not discussed this as yet, BUT, I think it is the best way.

 

IMO it is foolish to try and publicise lurcherwork more than it already is. We need to defend ourselves against the biggest threat, and thats the divis on the internet posting barbaric videos. There is only one way and that is through a code of conduct IMO.

surely that would be discussed at the meeting with the CA, somebody has to speak to them on our behalf and if its a club/association then it can voice the opinions of its members then to me thats a move forward, bickering is part of the dog world and is one of the reasons we do not get fully represented, a problem of our own making

[J Darcy 5,871]

 

The funny thing is; I went down to The Midland and discussed lurcher representation with the CA directly. I am doing them articles and pics for their site and their mag. They are in full support of legal lurcherwork. We are all under the same banner. I have supplied them with a code of conduct. IMO nothing more really needs to be done apart from joining up more members to the CA.

IMo if no one will fork out the cash to join CA then maybe a discounted rate for a 'region' could be applied, say a tenner a year per member for that region and then that region pays subs to the CA. I have not discussed this as yet, BUT, I think it is the best way.

 

IMO it is foolish to try and publicise lurcherwork more than it already is. We need to defend ourselves against the biggest threat, and thats the divis on the internet posting barbaric videos. There is only one way and that is through a code of conduct IMO.

The CA will welcome you and your money like Arkwrights till, if it happens mate, sorry but I dont share your enthusiasm of Lurcher owners flocking to the CA, they will represent us but half hearted to swell the coffers, thats why all others retain their individual identity, Terriers, MFA, Coursing Club , self representation and a voice, as individual members you wont have that apart from being a member.

 

I think you missed the point I was making, or I didn't make it well enough. Yes, a lurcher 'club' is a good idea but they must pay subs and these subs must go to the CA in order for them to take the 'club' seriously. Thats my HO.

 

The people who run the CA aren't faceless individuals, they will listen to members. We are all for the same cause.

[desertbred 5,490]

Would this Straight C/A membership remove the lurcher Rep on the Cof H and the C/A If not how would the representation be dealt with on behalf of lurcher owners ?

[J Darcy 5,871]

 

The funny thing is; I went down to The Midland and discussed lurcher representation with the CA directly. I am doing them articles and pics for their site and their mag. They are in full support of legal lurcherwork. We are all under the same banner. I have supplied them with a code of conduct. IMO nothing more really needs to be done apart from joining up more members to the CA.

IMo if no one will fork out the cash to join CA then maybe a discounted rate for a 'region' could be applied, say a tenner a year per member for that region and then that region pays subs to the CA. I have not discussed this as yet, BUT, I think it is the best way.

 

IMO it is foolish to try and publicise lurcherwork more than it already is. We need to defend ourselves against the biggest threat, and thats the divis on the internet posting barbaric videos. There is only one way and that is through a code of conduct IMO.

surely that would be discussed at the meeting with the CA, somebody has to speak to them on our behalf and if its a club/association then it can voice the opinions of its members then to me thats a move forward, bickering is part of the dog world and is one of the reasons we do not get fully represented, a problem of our own making

 

Well, I got sick of waiting and going around in circles so i have had a go myself. I'm sure the mag will feature a dash of lurcherwork in the future. Everyone from the CA I spoke to was all for lurchers. Can't say fairer than that.

[desertbred 5,490]

Would this Straight C/A membership remove the lurcher Rep on the Cof H and the C/A If not how would the representation be dealt with on behalf of lurcher owners ?

[paulus 26]

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[sandymere 8,263]

 

 

The funny thing is; I went down to The Midland and discussed lurcher representation with the CA directly. I am doing them articles and pics for their site and their mag. They are in full support of legal lurcherwork. We are all under the same banner. I have supplied them with a code of conduct. IMO nothing more really needs to be done apart from joining up more members to the CA.

IMo if no one will fork out the cash to join CA then maybe a discounted rate for a 'region' could be applied, say a tenner a year per member for that region and then that region pays subs to the CA. I have not discussed this as yet, BUT, I think it is the best way.

 

IMO it is foolish to try and publicise lurcherwork more than it already is. We need to defend ourselves against the biggest threat, and thats the divis on the internet posting barbaric videos. There is only one way and that is through a code of conduct IMO.

surely that would be discussed at the meeting with the CA, somebody has to speak to them on our behalf and if its a club/association then it can voice the opinions of its members then to me thats a move forward, bickering is part of the dog world and is one of the reasons we do not get fully represented, a problem of our own making

 

Well, I got sick of waiting and going around in circles so i have had a go myself. I'm sure the mag will feature a dash of lurcherwork in the future. Everyone from the CA I spoke to was all for lurchers. Can't say fairer than that.

 

Good shows that things can be done, if we meet with them and give another gentle push in the right direction we may get somewhere.

[Leeview 791]

I have been reading the posts on this subject and have been through all this ground prior to the Hunting Act, then it was done through the National Lurcher and Racing Club and The Association of Lurcher Clubs, The ALC was the Lurcher Organisation the Countryside Alliance recognised as the main representative of Luchers with them and the Council of Hunting. Many of the Countryside Alliance County Committees had a Lurcher Representative as the local voice for Lurchers. During this time a Lurcher Submission was also produced for the ALC by a member (Which can be found online) in the defence of Lurcher work, this was part of the Inquiry into Hunting with Dogs.

 

For any new organisation to be accepted by the other COH members it needs to be a proper structured club, with rules and a constitution, also for its members to abide by the rules and hunt within the Hunting Act, including poaching tresspass etc otherwise they wont be taken seriously or accepted. I also think that Alan Tyers would be a valuable member of any Committee with his experience, parliamentary knowledge and past history, after all this will be new ground for all new steering groups or committee. Also you might do well by contacting all the main Lurcher Clubs to enter discussions and for their support, you will need them on side.

 

On the negative side the CA and Masters of Foxhounds Associations etc never wanted Lurcher people before all the Hunting Ban was discussed in Parliament back in the 1990's, they suddenly did to swell numbers on marches and for lobbying MP's etc, all recent discussions of a repeal of the Hunting Act has only mentioned hunting with hounds....be aware and keep you eye on the ball, good luck with the venture.

The NL&RC had a rep on the COH late 80's early90's in the late Mark A

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[sandymere 8,263]

Now just went out and it's raining and black as a witches breeches for a change so I'm off out for a little lamp.

will look in in the morn.

[J Darcy 5,871]

 

 

 

The funny thing is; I went down to The Midland and discussed lurcher representation with the CA directly. I am doing them articles and pics for their site and their mag. They are in full support of legal lurcherwork. We are all under the same banner. I have supplied them with a code of conduct. IMO nothing more really needs to be done apart from joining up more members to the CA.

IMo if no one will fork out the cash to join CA then maybe a discounted rate for a 'region' could be applied, say a tenner a year per member for that region and then that region pays subs to the CA. I have not discussed this as yet, BUT, I think it is the best way.

 

IMO it is foolish to try and publicise lurcherwork more than it already is. We need to defend ourselves against the biggest threat, and thats the divis on the internet posting barbaric videos. There is only one way and that is through a code of conduct IMO.

surely that would be discussed at the meeting with the CA, somebody has to speak to them on our behalf and if its a club/association then it can voice the opinions of its members then to me thats a move forward, bickering is part of the dog world and is one of the reasons we do not get fully represented, a problem of our own making

 

Well, I got sick of waiting and going around in circles so i have had a go myself. I'm sure the mag will feature a dash of lurcherwork in the future. Everyone from the CA I spoke to was all for lurchers. Can't say fairer than that.

 

Good shows that things can be done, if we meet with them and give another gentle push in the right direction we may get somewhere.

 

They're sound. As long as we're realistic then I'm sure everything will run swimmingly. I know they're keen to stop this 'rift' as they were the ones who approached me.

It's a case of safety in numbers and, besides, the CA are our only chance. Without them we can not do anything. So ignore the negative people I say, and look forward with a degree of unity.

 

But good luck anyway to any working lurcher 'club'.

[Leeview 791]

 

 

 

 

Same old same old, we posted the broad aims of the group and if people would like to support it that would be good, if they feel they want to support another group or club that’s fine too, but get on and do something.

 

To my mind this is about our voice as much as anything else, we will get all the support we can from other organisations but we need a voice. In the recent discussions about hunting we didn’t get a mention or nod and if laws are being written then we could very easily lose what little we have as the pie is divided up amongst the hunts, shooting etc unless we sort ourselves out.

 

Then we need a platform to redress some of the bad publicity we have and will suffer in the future.

 

These seem pretty straightforward aims and a few have contacted already and I will get back to all.

 

Regards

there is only 1 post on what you were up to in what nearly a month on this forum and the OP has been removed completely WHY? how do we know whats been going on on the secret forum

Y.I.S Leeview

 

there is no secret forum and if there was it wouldn't be a secret if everyone knows about it

 

there is a hidden forum already set up on THL, i have asked ian to give me the ability to add members to it, we can then discuss on the site away from all the other posts on the threads

4th September you posted this

Y.I.S Leeview

 

and........................that means it has been done load of crap, yes there is an hidden forum, the ones the mods use. just thought it might stop all the distractions whilst the basics were put in place but as i said. it never happened.

 

OH well thats cleared that up

 

 

 

 

 

Same old same old, we posted the broad aims of the group and if people would like to support it that would be good, if they feel they want to support another group or club that’s fine too, but get on and do something.

 

To my mind this is about our voice as much as anything else, we will get all the support we can from other organisations but we need a voice. In the recent discussions about hunting we didn’t get a mention or nod and if laws are being written then we could very easily lose what little we have as the pie is divided up amongst the hunts, shooting etc unless we sort ourselves out.

 

Then we need a platform to redress some of the bad publicity we have and will suffer in the future.

 

These seem pretty straightforward aims and a few have contacted already and I will get back to all.

 

Regards

there is only 1 post on what you were up to in what nearly a month on this forum and the OP has been removed completely WHY? how do we know whats been going on on the secret forum

Y.I.S Leeview

 

there is no secret forum and if there was it wouldn't be a secret if everyone knows about it

 

there is a hidden forum already set up on THL, i have asked ian to give me the ability to add members to it, we can then discuss on the site away from all the other posts on the threads

4th September you posted this

Y.I.S Leeview

 

Did you want us to exchange all our personal details in public, telephone number etc, most of our contact has been via email, should I publish my email address??? A secret forum??? What do you think I am licenced to kill secret agent sandymere lol…..

 

Now if you want to join say so if you want to join elsewhere then wonderful, I’m happy with either. So do you have something to offer or are you just trolling???

 

Paulus says it never happened this hidden forum for mods?so how did last years attempt at forming a club get on with members in there?

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