Update On The National Lurcher Club.

[trenchfoot 4,243]

Lads and lasses, time for bitching is not now. Lets get this back on track. Anyone willing to stand up and try to get our voices heard and our opinions valued?

[desertbred 5,490]

 

 

Desertbred, does this mean that you take back all your earlier negativity about the CA and now reaslise that we are stronger if we fight with unity and all stick together?

I still think C/A Could have, should have and should do a lot more for lurcher lads than is visible dont you ?

 

Well, no. I disagree. And I do not think a 'spokesperson' for this club should be voicing those opinions anyway. Not if you want to be taken seriously by the overall fieldsports body. But thats my opinion....

I honestly think that whoever gets involved should be level headed and not prone to throwing their toys out of the pram and calling people c###s just because they don't like what they hear.

 

What I have written conveys the opinion of a large number of folk who I have spoken with/. Take a poll on C/A and gauge those who think they have in the past supported lurcher lads ? Tim Bonner may feel they have not hence his offer of the meeting. I am entitled to express my opinions as a potential member not a spokes person so what are your objections to? free Speech and individual opinion?.It appears truth burns some people and the toy throwing is evident enough whom participates in that passtime.

Edited October 5, 2015 by desertbred

[sandymere 8,263]

Same old same old, we posted the broad aims of the group and if people would like to support it that would be good, if they feel they want to support another group or club that’s fine too, but get on and do something.

 

To my mind this is about our voice as much as anything else, we will get all the support we can from other organisations but we need a voice. In the recent discussions about hunting we didn’t get a mention or nod and if laws are being written then we could very easily lose what little we have as the pie is divided up amongst the hunts, shooting etc unless we sort ourselves out.

 

Then we need a platform to redress some of the bad publicity we have and will suffer in the future.

 

These seem pretty straightforward aims and a few have contacted already and I will get back to all.

 

Regards

[Leeview 791]

Desertbred Why do you want to support lurcher folk when you have stated you run purebreds? there is a perfectly good coursing saluki club recognised by the CA and the CHA Do you have issues with this club? In your religion how would you dispatch a hare? I ask because we had a following of muslims and one meeting they brought some friends who wanted to dispatch the hares to their beliefs, it was not allowed by our rules and were told in no uncertain terms

Y.I.S Leeview

[Leeview 791]

Same old same old, we posted the broad aims of the group and if people would like to support it that would be good, if they feel they want to support another group or club that’s fine too, but get on and do something.

 

To my mind this is about our voice as much as anything else, we will get all the support we can from other organisations but we need a voice. In the recent discussions about hunting we didn’t get a mention or nod and if laws are being written then we could very easily lose what little we have as the pie is divided up amongst the hunts, shooting etc unless we sort ourselves out.

 

Then we need a platform to redress some of the bad publicity we have and will suffer in the future.

 

These seem pretty straightforward aims and a few have contacted already and I will get back to all.

 

Regards

there is only 1 post on what you were up to in what nearly a month on this forum and the OP has been removed completely WHY? how do we know whats been going on on the secret forum

Y.I.S Leeview

[desertbred 5,490]

Desertbred Why do you want to support lurcher folk when you have stated you run purebreds? there is a perfectly good coursing saluki club recognised by the CA and the CHA Do you have issues with this club? In your religion how would you dispatch a hare? I ask because we had a following of muslims and one meeting they brought some friends who wanted to dispatch the hares to their beliefs, it was not allowed by our rules and were told in no uncertain terms

Y.I.S Leeview

A lot of my friends run lurchers so why shouldnt I have an affinity to support them in their sport.? I dont have any grievance with any saluki club. Now what has my religion got to do with this Topic? I can and will answeryou at the appropriate time as most with any knowledge would know the answer to the hunting and despatch of game according to Islam apparently you dont but want to comment on something you dont know.anything about.

Edited October 5, 2015 by desertbred

[trenchfoot 4,243]

 

Same old same old, we posted the broad aims of the group and if people would like to support it that would be good, if they feel they want to support another group or club that’s fine too, but get on and do something.

 

To my mind this is about our voice as much as anything else, we will get all the support we can from other organisations but we need a voice. In the recent discussions about hunting we didn’t get a mention or nod and if laws are being written then we could very easily lose what little we have as the pie is divided up amongst the hunts, shooting etc unless we sort ourselves out.

 

Then we need a platform to redress some of the bad publicity we have and will suffer in the future.

 

These seem pretty straightforward aims and a few have contacted already and I will get back to all.

 

Regards

there is only 1 post on what you were up to in what nearly a month on this forum and the OP has been removed completely WHY? how do we know whats been going on on the secret forum

Y.I.S Leeview

 

The ALC appear to have nothing in the last few years, yet you appear to see that as a model of support for lurcherwork? I stated earlier on other threads, bear with us timelines and information. When there is ANYTHING to tell ANYONE it will be done.

[welcome 447]

Sandymere would you have list of the clubs prepan .We did register and had the insurance in place for our trips to england preban .I would be interested in joining up again in the hope of a repeal of the ban and maybe a few trips over.Could even start the irish comp again as i am fairly sure i could get the land.Best of luck with it.

[sandymere 8,263]

 

Same old same old, we posted the broad aims of the group and if people would like to support it that would be good, if they feel they want to support another group or club that’s fine too, but get on and do something.

 

To my mind this is about our voice as much as anything else, we will get all the support we can from other organisations but we need a voice. In the recent discussions about hunting we didn’t get a mention or nod and if laws are being written then we could very easily lose what little we have as the pie is divided up amongst the hunts, shooting etc unless we sort ourselves out.

 

Then we need a platform to redress some of the bad publicity we have and will suffer in the future.

 

These seem pretty straightforward aims and a few have contacted already and I will get back to all.

 

Regards

there is only 1 post on what you were up to in what nearly a month on this forum and the OP has been removed completely WHY? how do we know whats been going on on the secret forum

Y.I.S Leeview

 

What did you want an hourly update lol, we arranged to meet, met had a chat and found we shared the same ideas and so came up with a mission statement, posted above. From that we arranged for two of the group to meet with the CA to see what we could do with them. Following that we planned to let people know how we had gotten on and discuss on a topic where we went from there. To my mind not bad in a few weeks for people from across the country, now if you feel that another club is doing more please help them and if you feel this group isn't to your taste then that’s just fine.

[Joe1888 672]

stick at it lads

[South hams hunter 8,921]

This 'club' seems to be going backwards. Youve lost half of the committee already. The problem is I think that you want all the public to have a say but the original thread was only up for 9 days and not many people actually had a say it in. If its going to be public it even needs to be or dont say its public.

[sandymere 8,263]

This 'club' seems to be going backwards. Youve lost half of the committee already. The problem is I think that you want all the public to have a say but the original thread was only up for 9 days and not many people actually had a say it in. If its going to be public it even needs to be or dont say its public.

This is getting silly now, read my post in reply to leview, if you want in let us know.......

[South hams hunter 8,921]

Not sure how I could. I dont have pm facilities on here lol

[bonehead 92]

This 'club' seems to be going backwards. Youve lost half of the committee already. The problem is I think that you want all the public to have a say but the original thread was only up for 9 days and not many people actually had a say it in. If its going to be public it even needs to be or dont say its public.

you could mention it in cmw in your next article atb Edited October 5, 2015 by bonehead

[Flynn 314]

 

IMO everyone should get behind Alan Tyres and the ALC

He's been seen and is known to Tim Bonner

 

Alan has stuck with it from the beginning and should be supported IMO

 

Look this new group was 5 now it's 3

 

And it's a month old

 

Alan has Longevity ' IMO everyone should get behind this guy.

 

Yes Area representatives is the way with Alan steering the ship IMO .

95% of lurcherfolk (not coursing folk) had never heard of, or forgotten about the ALC before this thread started. The ALC is/was stuck with the past history of essentially supporting the course clubs. As much as we all would like to return to the halcyon days of "pre-ban" and will do all we can to campaign for that ban to be lifted,Those days are long gone. In the current environment, a "working lurcher federation" needs to represent those who work within the current laws.

 

I think Alan was more aware of that fact, than Your giving him credit for trenchfoot, his experience of dealings with the CA and parliament were the core of his work, and still are for that matter, he gave his imput into the original post, to be swept aside as a *has been* , please dont tell me I am wrong, as i have a very good memory.

 

Come to think of it a lot of folk ( IE: Giro!! ) who had an imput have been swept aside and felt left out of the loop, transparency we was told from the off set.

 

 

This should never have gotten to be a about EGOS .......

 

Everything should be driven towards bringing the Lurcher/Longdog. into a good light, in so many aspects of Lurcher work and play.

 

To do so , one must have a voice, a LOUD voice, each sector of fieldsports is fighting its own corner, talk of amendments and repeals will come, my vote as its always been remains behind Alan.

 

Lets hope this topic does not get deleted this time or locked