matt1979 766 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Interesting, like anything else it's about moderation I suppose. I go out twice a day and on most occasions it is difficult to avoid some action even at the local woods so I have no idea how people can avoid a run until say 18 months. I guess unless they walk the block etc but any pups I have had have mentally and physically needed more than this otherwise they are bouncing off the walls and that's not for me atb 1 Quote Link to post
matt1979 766 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Interesting, like anything else it's about moderation I suppose. I go out twice a day and on most occasions it is difficult to avoid some action even at the local woods so I have no idea how people can avoid a run until say 18 months. I guess unless they walk the block etc but any pups I have had have mentally and physically needed more than this otherwise they are bouncing off the walls and that's not for me atb 2 Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 There's more young dogs/pup ruined through mental inury than physical... spot on there Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,080 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 I'm with matt no your limitation Quote Link to post
two crows 3,342 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 ive seen pups as young as seven months kill good hares and take no harm, ide be more worried about mentally ruining a pup through overfaceing it than ruining it physically. and a realy young pup will conk out then go again not do himself harm whilst playing. I think some people worry to much. atb two crows. 2 Quote Link to post
2 old 2 run 60 Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 Seen it myself,Two Crows,and still doing it at 6 year old.Suppose every dog different Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 7months old, catching a good hare? I'd love to see them dogs .. Quote Link to post
terryd 8,414 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Me too mine tried accidentally at 7 months and got laid up for 4 months as a result and I wouldn't be surprised if it came back to haunt him in later life. But he has plenty of heart so he will do me regardless. But these things happen unfortunately just got to go with it Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 So we need to keep telling people about this: keep pushing the information so that more and more owners become aware. Penny, All you need is a nationally supported platform............ Isnt that part of the proposals being discussed for this association of working lurchers? Quote Link to post
trenchfoot 4,243 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 So we need to keep telling people about this: keep pushing the information so that more and more owners become aware. Penny, All you need is a nationally supported platform............ Isnt that part of the proposals being discussed for this association of working lurchers? quite possibly Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 There is no right and wrong answer beyond the extreme but common sense is key. A whippet will finish growth well before a deerhound so will be better able to withstand harder work younger. A youngster that is fit will stand a lot more work than one that isn't. How a whelp is raised plays a big part, those raised in litters in big paddocks where they can run and play as much as they like have less injuries than those reared in smaller areas/homes, alone. Exercise is protective in that it increases bone size and strength with better /stronger muscle attachments but against that sight hound types have been bred to push the dogs physical abilities to the extreme so they can outstrip their abilities whilst still in growth. Personally i go for lots of controlled exercise to develop a strong structure but avoid too much extreme stuff until the sapling is well formed. 5 Quote Link to post
skycat 6,173 Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 There is no right and wrong answer beyond the extreme but common sense is key. A whippet will finish growth well before a deerhound so will be better able to withstand harder work younger. A youngster that is fit will stand a lot more work than one that isn't. How a whelp is raised plays a big part, those raised in litters in big paddocks where they can run and play as much as they like have less injuries than those reared in smaller areas/homes, alone. Exercise is protective in that it increases bone size and strength with better /stronger muscle attachments but against that sight hound types have been bred to push the dogs physical abilities to the extreme so they can outstrip their abilities whilst still in growth. Personally i go for lots of controlled exercise to develop a strong structure but avoid too much extreme stuff until the sapling is well formed. That's half the problem: we have bred certain types of lurchers to have so much drive that mentally they want to do extreme things at a much earlier age than their bodies are capable of. 1 Quote Link to post
nans pat 2,575 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 ive always run pups 7,r,8 mths doubled up with an old dog on a hare never done any harm,wont learn much getting walked round the park, 1 Quote Link to post
Somewhereyournot 1,117 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 This site is incredible, I often sit back, scratch my head and question myself, "do these people actually own a dog?" Quote Link to post
my hounds 307 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 There is no right and wrong answer beyond the extreme but common sense is key. A whippet will finish growth well before a deerhound so will be better able to withstand harder work younger. A youngster that is fit will stand a lot more work than one that isn't. How a whelp is raised plays a big part, those raised in litters in big paddocks where they can run and play as much as they like have less injuries than those reared in smaller areas/homes, alone. Exercise is protective in that it increases bone size and strength with better /stronger muscle attachments but against that sight hound types have been bred to push the dogs physical abilities to the extreme so they can outstrip their abilities whilst still in growth. Personally i go for lots of controlled exercise to develop a strong structure but avoid too much extreme stuff until the sapling is well formed. That's half the problem: we have bred certain types of lurchers to have so much drive that mentally they want to do extreme things at a much earlier age than their bodies are capable of. Agree,also my take on it is that theres too much emphasise on "high protein this" high protein that" so when a pup/young dog or even an adult dog is bouncing due to being hyped up on protein its giving a false signal to the owner as regards being ready to have an hard nights work or a few hard day time runs,when in reality a pup is most certainly not ready for what I have mentioned and an adult dog thought to be "fit " when its not because their "bouncing with energy" as some would say. Quote Link to post
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