desertbred 5,490 Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) I f people believe something is right and just and that a legislation being imposed unjust and unfair should they be afraid to stand up and be counted.? Antis and dog thieves are they above the law, can they operate outside the law with impunity ?Dog thieves are known to others so they should be exposed, so should anyone who wants to impose vigilante justice . Pm,s Emails are the normal way that communications take place and as far as I am aware it is still illegal to hack or intercept private information without a court order so Antis or Lacs need to observe the law as this ASSOCIATION will. . As for attempting to get a level playing field for working dogs is not illegal and neither is trying to overturn a legislation that is considered unenforceable by the CPS and the Police, it is considered Draconian by some land owners and farmers large numbers of hunt supporters both active and passive think the law as it stands is unjust. Even the instigator and one of the major players in the introduction of the Hunting with Dogs Act Mr Tony Blair says it was an ill founded and badly drafted piece of legislation. I may contact Cherie Blair in her capacity of a human rights lawyer to ask her to Pro Bona a challenge against the legislation in the courts. It is a matter of conscience for people to support or not it isnt a matter of imposing the will of the most vocal as the Lacs and Antis seem to want to. Edited October 2, 2015 by desertbred 2 Quote Link to post
bonehead 92 Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Cheers dotty (wanker!!) Bonehead I use this name nice one good way to make money loon but as I said before I save my money instead of buying and reading the shit in cmw no offence Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Who ever is involved needs to be squeeky clean. As if it takes off i promise your be looked that far into any thing they can use to jeopidise things they will. Its a sad thing but the league against cruel sports are embedded everywhere. So no poaching convictions or any other for that matter. That can be used as ammo against the organisation thats trying to be created. Everything that is done needs to be that solid it can withstand anything otherwise it will do more harm then good and just be used against the working lurcher your trying to protect The lads involved are pillars in society . You raised a good point about character,plenty of LACS and Antis carry plenty of baggage so any character scrutiny wont be all one way traffic will it. ATBAgree totally but one organisation is building one is estabilished with millions of pounds of backing. Lacs also heavy in media that can slant things how they want. Im glad people are trying to protect what we have left but people need to face up to whats already happened. Even the CA are no match for lacs. I have a sorry feeling this is 15 yr to late. Only my opinion we all have them 1 Quote Link to post
desertbred 5,490 Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Everyone is entitled to an opinion and everyone should voice their concerns what ever they should be, I totally agree that when this Hunting Act was introduced it appears that apathy set in the older lads some hung up their boots younger ones drifted away or put their heads lower and jumped the wire clandestinely and ran the gauntlet for the last 10 years. Lacs have gone from strength to strength yes they have unity, yes they have good financiers yes they have media presence. LACS assume that as they have occupied the high ground they can now snipe at what is left of country activities, Farmers and land owners lively hoods are being targeted by Antis who dont like intensive farming both arable and livestock, they dont like poultry in broilers and battery houses they dont like birds hatched and reared for the shoots,they dont like coarse fishing, they dont like pigeon racing they dont like point to point they dont like horse racing they dont like greyhound racing. animals in circuses have gone how long before zoos and pets corners follow suit.. I t is a never ending erosion of activities that ordinary folk enjoy, People need to take stock of what is in front of them what ground has been lost is a example of what else will follow if people dont say enough is enough and do something about it,. Its ony 130 years ago that men were transported for catching a rabbit a few hundred years before that hung for poaching a Deer its like de ja vous (history repeating itself) the penalties being imposed now on lads who fall foul of unjust laws are increasing every season. The argument that lads shouldnt poach , I have lost permissions from farms where the farmer has been pressurised by Wild life enforcement officers and threats of £5,000 penalties if one of my dogs courses a hare even after me telling it not to. So landowners and tenants get threats not only from Lacs and antis but also those trying to enforce unenforceable laws.. We are accused of roaming the countryside issuing threats when it is the complete opposite when the evidence is scrutinised.. Its an uphill path and will only get steeper as time moves on. Edited October 2, 2015 by desertbred 6 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 10,695 Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Cheers dotty (wanker!!) Bonehead I use this name nice one good way to make money loon but as I said before I save my money instead of buying and reading the shit in cmw no offence Would'nt usually buy the cmw myself these days, but did'nt mind blowing the froth off the life savings to read Dave Sleights article this week 1 Quote Link to post
bonehead 92 Posted October 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) Cheers dotty (wanker!!) Bonehead I use this name nice one good way to make money loon but as I said before I save my money instead of buying and reading the shit in cmw no offence Would'nt usually buy the cmw myself these days, but did'nt mind blowing the froth off the life savings to read Dave Sleights article this week As said early I think cmw could along side country side alliance and other hunting and countryside associations needs to help fight and highlight the basis laws on hunting with dogs as we need some kinda of unity to help our cause and yes from time to time the cmw has some good articles like you mention appearing in the paper from quality dog men I am not gonna say all the names of quality dog men . But at times in my opine they have some story's that in my mind appear to be works of fiction suppose to be preban that come across to me as though written by someone who was just a kid at the time and they only hares they saw was on there heads and that doesn't really bother me as you don't have to buy it and read it as I stated to they guy that uses the lady's name ditty . But I would just like to see them fight the hunting corner bit more as they have the perfect platform to do so and help the sport ! GOOD LUCK GUYS with what your doing atb Edited October 3, 2015 by bonehead 1 Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 Who ever is involved needs to be squeeky clean. As if it takes off i promise your be looked that far into any thing they can use to jeopidise things they will. Its a sad thing but the league against cruel sports are embedded everywhere. So no poaching convictions or any other for that matter. That can be used as ammo against the organisation thats trying to be created. Everything that is done needs to be that solid it can withstand anything otherwise it will do more harm then good and just be used against the working lurcher your trying to protect. That's me out haha atb with your project boys atb ATaccording to most if you believe the stereo type im just a dog thieving p***y so i got no chance haha Quote Link to post
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