Lurcher Committee

[South hams hunter 8,921]

Tb I wouldnt be part of any club that would have me as a member

[tb25 4,627]

Or me lol

[bonehead 92]

While I work my dogs alone and also have no interest in meet up with guys to go a days hunting or join a club I think this association could help lurcher men in general as most folk look down on this sport and think we are all criminals and this might help raise the profile of this sport and be a voice against the antis who alway get there say and chance to discredit it on bbc and media with celebrity members who misinform the public that hunting with dogs invokes dogs ripping animals apart limb for limb when infact it is a clean kill and animals has no suffering caused but yet again the ideas of few f***ing misinformed morons are being forced on others guess that's what nazis did in Germany forced there values and ideas on others and those who did not accept there rules and there way of life where locked up (rule Britannia )atb

[Somewhereyournot 1,117]

Think it could be a good idea on one hand and a bad idea the next.

It could just spark animosity and make them crack down on lurchers/running dogs further more.

[desertbred 5,490]

Those who have given up their own time and spent their own money to begin the unenviable task of trying to organise and promote an association to combat all the negative publicity and misinformation given by the anti hunting groups need to be congratulated and supported in their efforts. Legislation introduced under the Hunting with Dogs Act has criminalised ordinary lads following centuries old traditions, it has cost breadwinners of some families their lively hoods put many down stream small enterprises out of business resulting in all the associated burdens, unemployment, bankruptcy and in some cases personal injury at the hands of the groups of Sabs and anti hunt brigade. Some lads say I do my own thing, I wouldnt join any group. I keep my head down and carry on regardless, This is their right as an individual and their choice. Those who have a broader perspective can see what the disunity in the working dog environment has allowed the Antis to do with a little bit of unity, basically destroy country pursuits and activities that were left in trust for future generations to enjoy. Any of the older lads will no doubt say we were on the marches to prevent the Ban ,they can say they tried to preserve the way of life When these who say I cant be bothered, its a waste of time. I do my own thing , are asked in twenty years time what did you do to prevent these traditions being lost forever or forced into illegality what will be their reply? These lads and the proposed association needs and deserves to be supported

Edited September 30, 2015 by desertbred

[bonehead 92]

Those who have given up their own time and spent their own money to begin the unenviable task of trying to organise and promote an association to combat all the negative publicity and misinformation given by the anti hunting groups need to be congratulated and supported in their efforts. Legislation introduced under the Hunting with Dogs Act has criminalised ordinary lads following centuries old traditions, it has cost breadwinners of some families their lively hoods put many down stream small enterprises out of business resulting in all the associated burdens, unemployment, bankruptcy and in some cases personal injury at the hands of the groups of Sabs and anti hunt brigade. Some lads say I do my own thing, I wouldnt join any group. I keep my head down and carry on regardless, This is their right as an individual and their choice. Those who have a broader perspective can see what the disunity in the working dog environment has allowed the Antis to do with a little bit of unity, basically destroy country pursuits and activities that were left in trust for future generations to enjoy. Any of the older lads will no doubt say we were on the marches to prevent the Ban ,they can say they tried to preserve the way of life When these who say I cant be bothered, its a waste of time. I do my own thing , are asked in twenty years time what did you do to prevent these traditions being lost forever or forced into illegality what will be their reply? These lads and the proposed association needs and deserves to be supported

I agree this sport needs a public face and voice that can be heard but where ?? as the bbc and other media have there own bias view and I am sure won't allow a fair and non tainted take on it after all they let that little f**k wit Chris packham spout his anti shite all day long without letting the other have any say so how do we get this public voice we desperately need to be heard bet we don't get bbc air time like that f***ing prick packham sorry for the rant lads just upsets me the bbc are so basis when it belongs to the people and as such should air both side in non basis way and let folk make up there own views instead of brainwashing public we need action as voice it on here won't do any good and I am sure there are lurcher men and women up and down the country willing to support this how many members does this site have to agree with this must be a good start atb Edited September 30, 2015 by bonehead

[desertbred 5,490]

There is not only the BBC for getting views across, youtube, facebook, local radio , channel 4, channel 5, local private documentary companies, periodicals/magazines not only hunting based .Articles well written and sent to any publication for consideration. There are some experienced writers on here who could produce the required articles. even maybe a short book giving the point of view from the lads on the other side of the fence, showing far from the wasters ,gamblers junkies thieves and vandals we are portrayed as we are respectable folk from all walks of life ,young and old , teachers professionals nurses doctors lawyers ex soldiers , bricklayers shop workers every day people with a common love and respect for country life, animals and age old customs and traditions. Some of the best stuff I have ever read has been written by ordinary men and women with a story to tell. Get together get it on and this battle can be won eventually with blood sweat and tears but mainly unity and enthusiasm.

Edited September 30, 2015 by desertbred

[nothernlite 18,076]

Need jack hadgreifs out of town great programmes

[desertbred 5,490]

People friendly publicity is a basic requirement, to promote country activities An example Plenty of lads on here are into the rabbiting pass time, using ferrets, dogs, shooting,lamping etc, lots have permission and seem to bag fair numbers on a day or nights outing. Why not get around some of the older folk in your areas , the ones who will have had plenty of rabbit stews and pies etc in bye gone days, find out which of them would like a brace of dressed rabbits for a weekend roast. The same could be done by shooters pigeons, grouse , partridge etc a few well written stories placed in local free newspapers up and down the country would soon get peoples interest also introduce the uninitiated into natural country game and birds as an alternative to the tesco broiler chickens etc. Outside the box thinking is the way to combat the negative Anti,s propaganda and get a truer picture of hunting and country activities before the general public, our public persona at present is on a par with bankers, politicians and estate agents

Edited October 1, 2015 by desertbred

[skycat 6,173]

Every excursion out with the lurchers is a bloody PR exercise these days! I know it's easy enough for me as a middle-aged woman to talk rationally and reasonably to some horrified dog walker who has just seen one of my dogs catch a rabbit, but for the young lad out with his dog there is so much prejudice involved, and most members of the public wouldn't even want to speak to such a lad as their perceptions have been skewed by the media and antis. Neither will the lad have the faintest idea of how to talk in the right way: there is so much defiant aggression in young people: I know, I was actually one, long ago LOL. But the stigma of being young AND male makes life even harder.

 

Methinks we need to teach positive PR to all lurcher owners Now THAT would be a real challenge!

[trenchfoot 4,243]

Every excursion out with the lurchers is a bloody PR exercise these days! I know it's easy enough for me as a middle-aged woman to talk rationally and reasonably to some horrified dog walker who has just seen one of my dogs catch a rabbit, but for the young lad out with his dog there is so much prejudice involved, and most members of the public wouldn't even want to speak to such a lad as their perceptions have been skewed by the media and antis. Neither will the lad have the faintest idea of how to talk in the right way: there is so much defiant aggression in young people: I know, I was actually one, long ago LOL. But the stigma of being young AND male makes life even harder.

 

Methinks we need to teach positive PR to all lurcher owners Now THAT would be a real challenge!

you don't want much then!

[bonehead 92]

I use to by the countrymans weekly but stopped as only lurcher work in is normally Simon bloody whitehead and seems more aimed at shooting what pity it didn't help by having a topic on the injustices of the law on some dog work insteed just seems to promote Simon f***ing whitehead and thon barrenness dewhit how to make bunny burger complete load of shite sorry for lingo buy drives me up the f***ing pole lads

[desertbred 5,490]

Perhaps the proposed code of conduct should also have a section dealing with how to communicate with hostile members of the public was going to say especially Women but I wont

Edited October 1, 2015 by desertbred

[Giro 2,648]

Every excursion out with the lurchers is a bloody PR exercise these days! I know it's easy enough for me as a middle-aged woman to talk rationally and reasonably to some horrified dog walker who has just seen one of my dogs catch a rabbit, but for the young lad out with his dog there is so much prejudice involved, and most members of the public wouldn't even want to speak to such a lad as their perceptions have been skewed by the media and antis. Neither will the lad have the faintest idea of how to talk in the right way: there is so much defiant aggression in young people: I know, I was actually one, long ago LOL. But the stigma of being young AND male makes life even harder.

 

Methinks we need to teach positive PR to all lurcher owners Now THAT would be a real challenge!

 

Give a dog a bad name and all that...

 

Young people are the future..

 

I hope any commities ethos,would be support,encourage and educate. Not imply the young are defiant and aggressive..

 

The prejudice stigma, appears to lie closer to home..

 

Older does not always mean wiser..

 

Poor PR at its best...

[skycat 6,173]

Giro: I was joking: hence the laughing smiley? But I do think it is important to teach young lurcher owners how to defuse potentially difficult situations. When we are young we don't necessarily have good communication skills at our fingertips, and especially not if we are being bullied or harassed by someone. I shall never forget, many years ago, going foxing with a farmer friend. As we walked back down a very isolated country lane, him carrying a big dog fox, a woman came out of her house wailing that we had killed her lovely foxy friend who came to visit. My farmer friend explained that it was indeed a shame to have to kill such a lovely animal, but said animal had been killing his ducks, in large numbers. Despite being accused of all manner of crimes, he never once lost his temper nor raised his voice. In the end, although she didn't agree with what we had done, she was unable to produce any logical reason why the fox should live to kill another day.

 

I remember that day very clearly, and I've since used quiet reason in the face of anger and hostility on a number of occasions. You can't necessarily change someone's opinion of what you are doing, but you may be able to change their ideas on the sort of person you are.