Planned Deerhound X Greyhound Litter

[bobza 910]

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[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

how do you know theres no doxhope blood out there ?ive one and shes coming up to 8 years old atb bobza

There may be dogs descended from a Doxhope hound, but as Omanyra say's Doxhope hasn't bred a litter since 2005. He should know.

Out of interest, who bred yours and from which two Doxhope hounds?

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[bobza 910]

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[Seb13 99]

You won't go far wrong with a cookland bred dog very keen to please

[Omanyra 2,518]

I meant that there are no Doxhope litters, in the sense that they were not bred by us. Our last pure bred litter was before 2005, so any remaining dogs would be a fair age now.

I saw an advert a year ago, genuine Doxhope first cross litter for sale, I phoned up, and the dog was a deerhound/saluki/bull..or so the guy thought.

Doxhope blood as you put it, maybe still out there, but probably so diluted it will not give you what we so purposefully instilled in the dogs that we bred.

We only ever bred 5 litters of first cross deerhound greyhounds, and never bred three quarter breds.

 

Trevor at Cooklands has produced some decent first crossers, he originally obtained a bitch deerhound from us many years ago.

 

The deerhound breed in this country now is totally fecked..with all sorts of faults bred into them.

At Doxhope we had some of the best hunting, lamping, working deerhounds around, and we travelled all over the country to hunt, and to use the best working stock, in an attempt to keep the breed a working breed, and also to hopefully pass on these hunting abilities to crossbreds, as I am first and formost a lurcherman

Dont get me wroung, there are still a small number of people with decent deerhounds, and Ireland probably still has the best coursing stock

So just to say, be careful what you are buying out there, all that glitter is not gold..

Edited October 1, 2015 by Omanyra

[leo1 134]

Wouldn't mind another deerhound x myself, lost my big dog start of the year still gutted. He was bred down from two cooklands first x that my mate had unfortunately the sire is no longer here and dam is around ten. They dogs gave 110% Day or night

[leo1 134]

Aye it was Josie mate he a good mate of mine, my dog was just shy o 30. I had one of those 3quarters aswell he wAs a tad shorter but too quick for his own good. How did urs go?

[low plains drifter 10,619]

I'd like to see a good first cross, have'nt seen one since mid 1990's, they seemed to disappear overnight once the saluki lurchers came on the scene

[bob84 189]

Every summer when we were kids we'd go to England to see family as thats where my nan and grandad are from I'll never forget the deerhoundxs his brother had the last year we were over he had two pups left out of his good bitch as he put it so one came back with us now maybe its rose-tinted glasses but my god she never seemed to do anything wrong she used to work with the springer to the gun anything asked of her she did me and the uncle who younger then me got some fun out of her and she would keep us in pocket money with the local greyhound men I only wish that the grandad had got a pup of her like they say don't no what ya have till its gone

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[leo1 134]

you must of been unlucky, my 3 quarters fukt his backeg at 11 month but could turn on a five pence and pace like nothing I've ever seen before. It was a tibial crest avulsion fracture or something like that got it pinned etc but just couldn't bring myself to slip his lead so have him to an older couple on a farm to laze abou stables and the c**t was running away onto hill and bringing hares back to his new not so happy owners lol

[bobza 910]

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[bob84 189]

Is their any genuine deerhounds about now I mean the lean well put together type's that can actually run not like the big heavy boned one that looked like wolfhounds that a lad at the birr game fair this year

[low plains drifter 10,619]

my pal bought a doxhope first x called him rab he was up in Northumberland ,he was 32 /33 ins that would of been about 2005 ,he ordered a pup for me and said she was a doxhope 3/4 bred 29 tts ,she was good on the rough ground on long ears and would cover the ground flat out were the saluki would break his neck but on crop fields she struggled with fast long ears and would rarely make a bend ,I have been very upset with this breed and like you say lowplainsdriffter since bill stopped breeding them things have never been the same ,lowplains remember when we knocked on bill to ask whats gan on with the breed and you told me then it was bills dad that knew his stuff ,maybe since then doxhope went down hill ,atb bobza

The Doxhope breeding was a success story because of 2 dedicated men one who knew the breeding game inside out and the other who put every opportunity infront of the hounds out on the land. A hard act to follow Edited October 1, 2015 by low plains drifter

[Omanyra 2,518]

Aye

My dad was a stockman, he was interested in all breeding of anything, he had an amazing understanding of genetics

He bred them I worked them, perfect combination

If I saw something of interest on the coursing stage I would tell him, he would sit for ages with pedigrees he sent away for and say yes we will use him, or no he's no good for us

People with leeks used to come to our house and get my dad to work out strains of leeks for him

It's not just getting a good strain of dogs, the difficult part is maintaining it..so when my dad died yes that ended my association with keeping dogs

 

The sizes of dogs you mentioned, if you are talking about pure breed are not consistent with what we produced, our breed was noted for being small and strong

, bitches 28-29 and dogs 30-31

If you are talking three quarter breed, then I'm afraid breeding plans go out the window and you could get anything

 

With any breeding you need the raw materials, the root stock and it's just not there now with deerhounds anymore

 

Yes, my dad was the brains behind the breeding, and his loss stopped us in our tracks, but the greatest single factor that as you put it" caused doxhope deerhounds to go downhill" is those saying the have one, but in fact have not

 

For me, first cross deerhounds are ok, an average cross for all round work, but my lurchers I kept and bred for many decades originate from this cross, with collie added so they can be a useful tool for producing good all rounders

Edited October 1, 2015 by Omanyra

[bobza 910]

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