Managed To Gain My First Permissions.

[Mr Wilkes 3,026]

Well done on the new permission mate, I too talk to dozens of people a day but I have to be in the mood (so to speak) to go and ask a total stranger to hunt his land. I find most are polite enough if they say no but I have to be in the mood for the nasty ignorant arse holes (few and far between) who give you attitude as soon as you open your mouth.

[Dean 4546 66]

To be fare, i was a bag of nerves going knocking on doors but bit the bullet & was surprised that if you present yourself with a positive attitude & a responsible aproach to our sport, then the land owner is prepaired to listen to you.

[moxy 617]

 

 

 

Well done Dean, well done !

 

First job ! Leave the rifle well at home, no distractions, and walk around the new permission, watching and learning for at least a month.- "yeah at least a month" !- you will learn so much more about your shoot empty handed.

Know the very basics of your permission`s wild life fist Dean, - "vastly important mate).

An "opportunist hunter" gets no where near the results of the hunter that "plans and practices"

A month ???

Seems a bit exsisive..

I am all for seeing the lay or the land..

I'd personally have a wander with the rifle and get cracking..

Good luck..

Learn your land first ! - observe and learn, opportunist hunters learn absolutely nothing in comparison.

I disagree..

So In a period of a month, how many times would you suggest " learning & observing ".

A months total over kill..

Far enough walk the land , look for potential hazards, back stops, stock, the direction rabbits are traveling home, runs & dreys.

If it took you a month to weigh up a small holding, your over complacating things..

Each to there own however within a month I'd of been to the game dealers a few times or at least filled a chest freezer..

[walshie 2,804]

I agree with the principle of needing to get out there and learn the land, but a month is a bit excessive. The landowner didn't give you permission so you could go and ramble, he wants a job done.

 

I'd suggest once by day and once by night to get a feel for it. but that's just me.

[Dean 4546 66]

Cheers lads for all the advice & comments. Thankyou.

[mark williams 7,558]

 

 

 

 

Well done Dean, well done !

 

First job ! Leave the rifle well at home, no distractions, and walk around the new permission, watching and learning for at least a month.- "yeah at least a month" !- you will learn so much more about your shoot empty handed.

Know the very basics of your permission`s wild life fist Dean, - "vastly important mate).

An "opportunist hunter" gets no where near the results of the hunter that "plans and practices"

A month ???

Seems a bit exsisive..

I am all for seeing the lay or the land..

I'd personally have a wander with the rifle and get cracking..

Good luck..

Learn your land first ! - observe and learn, opportunist hunters learn absolutely nothing in comparison.

I disagree..

So In a period of a month, how many times would you suggest " learning & observing ".

A months total over kill..

Far enough walk the land , look for potential hazards, back stops, stock, the direction rabbits are traveling home, runs & dreys.

If it took you a month to weigh up a small holding, your over complacating things..

Each to there own however within a month I'd of been to the game dealers a few times or at least filled a chest freezer..

 

Mmmm forgot to add i work 5 or 6 days a week (my own business) but didn`t think anyone would visit a new shoot 30 or so days out of 30 or so days.

If you can fill a chest freezer in a month off a new shoot then i would agree with you as the land must be "crawling with wildlife" and you would not learn any fieldcraft, or need to, from land like that.

Edited September 26, 2015 by mark williams

[moxy 617]

The rest of us work in offices mark and only see the countryside on the net and in books.

[mark williams 7,558]

Then you would need longer than a month of occasional visits to a new shoot, i would have thought, to "Learn it and it`s wild life`s habits and way of life".

Each to their own but please,- please yourself, you would never change me to opportunistic hunting over careful planning and observing, "never ever".

 

 

But good luck .

Edited September 26, 2015 by mark williams

[moxy 617]

Can't knock you for that

[walshie 2,804]

Just as long as you don't confuse "careful planning" with being obsessive.

[mark williams 7,558]

Just as long as you don't confuse "careful planning" with being obsessive.

What on earth is wrong with "careful planning" or as you say, "being obsessive" to the correct approach to field craft.

 

 

[walshie 2,804]

 

Just as long as you don't confuse "careful planning" with being obsessive.

What on earth is wrong with "careful planning" or as you say, "being obsessive" to the correct approach to field craft.

 

 

 

 

My post was to the original OP not you, hence why I didn't quote you. As i said before, nothing wrong with careful planning at all, but a month to go and shoot an airgun? Are you sure it's me who warrants the "yawn" smiley?

[Rez 4,961]

Come back to this post and see the hand bags flying around.

 

To the OP'er. Take your airgun man, but enjoy it, is all we're saying

[mark williams 7,558]

 

 

Just as long as you don't confuse "careful planning" with being obsessive.

What on earth is wrong with "careful planning" or as you say, "being obsessive" to the correct approach to field craft.

 

 

 

 

My post was to the original OP not you, hence why I didn't quote you. As i said before, nothing wrong with careful planning at all, but a month to go and shoot an airgun? Are you sure it's me who warrants the "yawn" smiley?

 

Yes a month, i was out yesterday with my GSP (German short haired pointer), checking around for a good hour or so and same today and same again over the forthcoming weeks.

Am i learning more about the land i shoot at the moment,- yes i am,- the pigeons have moved on, the Mallards are flighting in, in strong numbers.

The odd Snipe are just showing, Hares are far less to be seen and rat crap is starting to be noticed around the grain bins.

I am noticing the preferred roosts are still the same but that the pigeons will flight in at differing times as the nights draw in and i am taking note of all this without a gun under my arm.

I also forage and trap from my shoots, - again, i know my grounds, times and places.

A month of visits is "no where near enough time" to learn the basics of your "new shoot" so at least go without a gun at first.

You will "enjoy" your shooting far, far more, when you know your grounds (but that`s just me).

 

atb

Edited September 27, 2015 by mark williams

[bigmac 97kt 13,803]

I agree with walshie on the day and night especially the night as every thing looks different at night and you will find that some game will be on a different part of the perm where there not in day light .

 

and its a hole new learning game at night , just the gear you need to start with, never mind field craft at night .

 

Top job on the new perm enjoy

 

and the most important thing of all have fun

 

and stay safe

 

atvbmac :thumbs: