cantona 310 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Been offered a 5 month old sprocker pup, it's had no training at all, not been socialised much either apart from out in the yard when getting kennell cleaned,dosent seem timid wags tail, but a little cautious , would it be ok to take on at 5 month with no training ( not even a name given) or wold you stay clear of it, was supposed to pick a Cocker pup but its gone wrong so now on the lookout again Quote Link to post
lurchers 2,768 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Get it mate and it wants to be free from the way it's treated.just give it loads of attention and it will soon come out of its shell,once it's settled with you take it to a country show or down the town where's there loads of people to get it round mate.plus if you have kids or nieces nephews they will sharp open it up mate atb. Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Been offered a 5 month old sprocker pup, it's had no training at all, not been socialised much either apart from out in the yard when getting kennell cleaned,dosent seem timid wags tail, but a little cautious , would it be ok to take on at 5 month with no training ( not even a name given) or wold you stay clear of it, was supposed to pick a Cocker pup but its gone wrong so now on the lookout again Absolutely jump at it. It's never been trained, and I'm glad it's not. It's still very much a puppy. Give it a chance.....?? 1 Quote Link to post
mackay 3,358 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Take it mate, it'll be fine, I'd prefer it untouched as opposed to having had some nugget ruining it by going at it too early. Quote Link to post
stroller 341 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 I would be a bit concerned that it has gone through its formative weeks of puppyhood without socialisation. I wouldn't touch it Quote Link to post
jessdale 416 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 I would be a bit concerned that it has gone through its formative weeks of puppyhood without socialisation. I wouldn't touch it neither would i Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Just out of interest what bad traits would you think a 5 month old pup will have picked up not being around other dogs/people? 1 Quote Link to post
mackay 3,358 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Written off at twenty weeks, dear lord. The guy says the pups not timid, wagging it's tail etc, I'd think that pup would come good in the right hands. Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 As the man says take it , some things just fit right , old timers used to say to me , "let a pup lie up for the first ten months " never understood it til I witnessed lads bollix up good pups before 6 months old Too much too soon before a pup can make a real social bond with its owner can be the detriment of a good relationship, with a clean sheet you can write your own script Best of luck 2 Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 As the man says take it , some things just fit right , old timers used to say to me , "let a pup lie up for the first ten months " never understood it til I witnessed lads bollix up good pups before 6 months old Too much too soon before a pup can make a real social bond with its owner can be the detriment of a good relationship, with a clean sheet you can write your own script Best of luck I think that's what sticks in my mind mate...I can hear my grandad saying "let that pup be a pup!". And that was for its first year. 1 Quote Link to post
cantona 310 Posted September 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 Went and had a look last night and it seemed a bit more confident that I had been told, jumped up me for fuss, i brought it home with me ,daughter has been playing with it and introduced it to my dogs, seems to have more confidence already. 1 Quote Link to post
stroller 341 Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 I still wouldn't have it, not writing it off but if I had a chance of buying a well brought up pup or one that had just sat in a kennel without a name I know which one I would pick. I deal with rescue dogs all the time and have fostered many. as for not doing anything with a pup until its 10 months that's a load of shite Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) I can see where this thread is going and what a lot of lads are doing with working bred pups is that they are taking dog knowledge from pet dog voices, If you need to work hand to jaw with your working dog you don't need to start training straight out of the crib a pup won't stop learning after 5 months old ?, Pet homes have no outlet on the whole for driven dogs , working homes have a perfect partnership where a dog can express himself and has a complete focus for his energy in accordance with its owner , Where a dog has no real focus , problems occur , pet homes are for ever dampening down energy whereas a working dog can go by feel with its owner , pet dogs are going by instinct , instinctive behaviour is just about ok with small dogs who are mainly emploders but problems occus when large breeds with high temperment respond instinctively, they are exploders Many of the dogs in shelters today were given all the exposure available to them, as is the norm today but still the numbers grow, Greyhound pups are giving very little exposure, kept out in kennels 23 hours a day but makes fine house dogs when their running days are over , if all the exposure works explain how the greyhound made such a good house dog ?? The reason behind it is the hound has a focus he has a job a use for his energy, no so the pet dog , I keep a pup social for his early life, and at the stage where most dog start f***ing off (teenage months ) I start training having never disciplined or confronted , just managed, hand fed and observed, It's not keeping a dog in a shed and throwing food in under the door , ? its not putting it in situations it can tdeal with and thus causing fear , fear is the ultimate enemy to a owner / dog relationship The physical act of hunting or whatever the form of hunting is for the dog is what makes it social , it forms a group bond, whereas you can do all the socialising you like with a highly driven dog but if his energy outlet doesn't equate to the same as his energetic capacities, your going to get a short fall where energy has to go somewhere, that's where trouble starts , if you have a dog that can spend himself in the field thru his owner , problems just don't arise, socialised or not Edited September 26, 2015 by Casso 1 Quote Link to post
cantona 310 Posted September 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 Pups settled in well now, getting very confident already, 5 months old and about 14 to the shoulder, what age do they stop growing height wise? About 7 or 8 months? Quote Link to post
Lab 10,979 Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 If you put the time in it will be very interesting to see how this pup turns out. Atb Quote Link to post
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