Can This Be True

[Guest Navek]

If I had to run a single dog on a red it would have to be a fully mature full deerhound dog.....every then I'd still like to have two of them on it....

 

 

I'm fairly sure people out there have pulled red stags with dogs....probably a mix of deer hound and bull x types but there's always going to be a day when the favour is on the dogs side....

 

A ill stag...old stag...injured stag ...fences..dykes... They all can play a part in the success of a dog pulling the red stag single handed...

 

However I don't think there was lads out pulling red single handed on a regular occasion pre ban.

 

However I can be wrong (and normally am :-) lol )

[bird 9,864]

what size would a dog need to be preban to take one

 

prob not so much size of the dog dave, more if its got the balls=heart for the job , but suppose bit of size would help though with them big buggers lol, same with fox dogs once they been nipped few times, some think twice , that's when heart for the job comes in, funny thing a lot of dogs will tackle most deer but not foxes lol, strange creatures are dogs mate.

[lurchers 2,762]

 

 

My mate has a Picardy Shepard x and there's no way it could pull anything that size.

Most red stags are a bit smaller than that. As for the Picardy cross, you don't say what it's crossed with. I imagine that a Picardy crossed with a deerhound or deerhound cross, or even one of the bigger types of coursing dog, could produce some tall strong animals with plenty of grit.

It's a one he got from Jeff Burrel it's about 26/27tts and solid but no way would it take that single handed.

[Omanyra 2,518]

Bloody big beast a red stag

Hinds took a bit work too, but have been done single handed

 

As for the 100 rabbits in one night....not many dogs have done this

[roybo 2,873]

I know of 2, 25" collie Grey x bull Grey's that did them on regular occations before the ban ,also a sapling that has.

Heart has more to do with it than size,

Saw a 28+ deerhound cross pull up on roe,

So I figure the size isn't a guarentee.

As to the the original question whether the bloke could own 3 that do it single handed,well he is a lucky man,especially if the can potentially catch 100 rabbits too.

[J Darcy 5,871]

As usual with these topics..............There's stags, and there's stags.

[Maximus Ferret 2,063]

I know of 2, 25" collie Grey x bull Grey's that did them on regular occations before the ban ,also a sapling that has.

Heart has more to do with it than size,

Saw a 28+ deerhound cross pull up on roe,

So I figure the size isn't a guarentee.

As to the the original question whether the bloke could own 3 that do it single handed,well he is a lucky man,especially if the can potentially catch 100 rabbits too.

When you say 2 collie/bull/greys do you mean 2 working together? Personally I can't see a 25 inch dog stopping a mature red stag single handed.

If I'm wrong then I stand corrected but for singlehanded surely it would need a bit of weight and also a bit of speed.

[lurchers 2,762]

That's why I said a Picardy Shepard wouldn't do it because of weight,it has the size but I no a lad who has really big bullxs that's done them but his dogs are at least 70/80lb in weight.i know a bloke who has permission to shoot them up Scotland on a farm because of the damage they cause and once they are cleaned weigh in at 110lb+

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

That's why I said a Picardy Shepard wouldn't do it because of weight,it has the size but I no a lad who has really big bullxs that's done them but his dogs are at least 70/80lb in weight.i know a bloke who has permission to shoot them up Scotland on a farm because of the damage they cause and once they are cleaned weigh in at 110lb+

I should expect they will be bigger than that! Mature red stag in Norfolk can reach 20 stone plus in live weight.

[mushroom 12,871]

Must be true it was in a newspaper....

 

But as you say maybe to the tip of his antler ,,,,but even then I would be surprised ,,,,cos 9 foot is vey high

Must have Parsons Russell in it's make up to give it more leg

[roybo 2,873]

 

I know of 2, 25" collie Grey x bull Grey's that did them on regular occations before the ban ,also a sapling that has.

Heart has more to do with it than size,

Saw a 28+ deerhound cross pull up on roe,

So I figure the size isn't a guarentee.

As to the the original question whether the bloke could own 3 that do it single handed,well he is a lucky man,especially if the can potentially catch 100 rabbits too.

 

When you say 2 collie/bull/greys do you mean 2 working together? Personally I can't see a 25 inch dog stopping a mature red stag single handed.

If I'm wrong then I stand corrected but for singlehanded surely it would need a bit of weight and also a bit of speed.

no single handed mate and what I'd describe as average size lurchers ,and I saw it, there wasn't much drama ,ground plays a major part ,but taking them is taking them,not all deer can be 16 point monarchs

[sandymere 8,263]

There's a big difference between a pricket and a mature stag, especially down in Devon, one in rut down here would would course your dog lol.

[Omanyra 2,518]

Will get best crosses that did in on a regular basis next

[roybo 2,873]

I know sandy but as I said it was a stag ,I do hear the west country has some fine examples though

[Wales1234 5,489]

 

 

what size would a dog need to be preban to take one

 

prob not so much size of the dog dave, more if its got the balls=heart for the job , but suppose bit of size would help though with them big buggers lol, same with fox dogs once they been nipped few times, some think twice , that's when heart for the job comes in, funny thing a lot of dogs will tackle most deer but not foxes lol, strange creatures are dogs mate.

no point in keeping a dog that can't take the bushy man

I think most dogs that don't do fox but deer are just scared of the teeth ! And personally if wont retrieve a shot fox wouldn't be in my kennel !