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I know what your saying foxdropper. and have seen some very good line bred terriers . but ive also seen good crossbreds or even mongrels worker to worker ...produce on a regular basis. I think a lot o

The whole point of a line is to breed best to best within that line mate .Best to best of this and that can produce good stuff but what then .Its a gamble .The lads that have tge stuff have foresight

no ,yes and no lol

The outcross needs to be in place way before that mate ,never let the size dwindle .

Interesting stuff from both sides of the divide. In fairness to all, once men are honest with themselves and what is in their kennel and only breed for work then the working terrier atributes should remain strong just different paths trying to get to the same place. Some may get there faster than others, others may never get there!

 

To foxdropper: a few genuine questions for if you feel like answering as I'd like to get a feel for what you do?

1) could note down the last 5 crosses you have bred. i.e. Grandfather x granddaughter, half brother x half sister, uncle x niece, brother x sister.

2) what % sucess rate have you had in these last 5 litters assuming average litter size of 5-7 pups?

3) you say the outcross should be in place before weakness/ faults show? Is your outcross a total outcross or somewhat related to have been in place?

Be nice to know above. Ta Corkman

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Know alls still reading magazine's and books, maybe he might get off his computer this season for a changeaand go huntin ? As forhis dogs, most don't even make good fox dogs. The man who smiles through his crap when he hears lads say experienced game, take some advice from him corkman, we all want to hear it.. Maybe we'll havesuper dog and gene pool s

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I don't blame foxdropper for going to PM and not sharing what he's learnt , other men will only sneer from the comfort of their home on the computer and pick holes in any theory he has.

It's the weekend lads anyone been out thisorning or maybe put tomorrow lol ?

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I been out all day tried a couple earths this mornin nowt at home and was to warm for me really so grabbed some dinner then went back out looking for some new spots for the young bitch found a couple nowt at home tho forecast rain for after weekend so should get a few digs really need to find some puppy spots asap

 

And for the record I think foxdroppers theory is spot on I've picked plenty of good info from his posts its obviously working for him or he whuldent be so passionate about it

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