jeppi26 1,855 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 What's your thoughts? http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/bayern-munich-donate-111m-refugee-crisis-150903133552072.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Germany taking on 800,000 asylum seekers may have something to do with a labour shortage of at least 600,000. On saying that at least the football club is putting it's money where it's mouth is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 3,016 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Germany has the strongest economy in Europe. So, they are the obvious choice for stepping up and helping. Each to their ability type of thing. Here in the USA there is the beginnings of a push to relax our immigration and we have certain city's which refuse to cooperate with the Federal Government's policies, and policing efforts. It's caused one beautiful woman her life right in front of her poor father. There are going to be refugees as long as there is strife, and the insanity of the Muslim world certainly qualifies as strife. Years ago again over here, we had a big influx of Arabs, and especially Chaldean's. They assimilated and became part of our nation. The Arabs settled into communities and the Chaldean's settled into the liquor business. But they were most likely fleeing the same people who are now seeking asylum in your countries. It's going to be hard but you are not going to get anywhere in this day and age talking about expelling refugees. My thoughts? sh&^% sandwich. Take your bite and pass it on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,354 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 It would be interesting to know how many asylum seekers/refugees/immigrants that the United States has taken from the Middle East in the last 20 years since the chuckle brothers Bush & Blair lit a match under the region ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 3,016 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) It would be interesting to know how many asylum seekers/refugees/immigrants that the United States has taken from the Middle East in the last 20 years since the chuckle brothers Bush & Blair lit a match under the region ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_refugee_population#By_country_of_asylum We could do more I think. But the stats are a little surprising to me. As you look at our figure remember that many of those come from central America and are fleeing the Narco violence fueled by the habits of many of my countrymen. The USA leaves a pretty big foot print anywhere they go and the results while mostly good are not always that way. For the war are terror though the blame doesn't lie on the shoulders of the west. WILF I'm not trying to pick a fight I just think you have to be mindful of the world at large when you form policies. You start ejecting refugees because of their faith or appearance and next thing you know your South Africa of the eighties in the worlds eye. ATB Edited September 4, 2015 by Mickey Finn 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Germany has the strongest economy in Europe. So, they are the obvious choice for stepping up and helping. Each to their ability type of thing. Here in the USA there is the beginnings of a push to relax our immigration and we have certain city's which refuse to cooperate with the Federal Government's policies, and policing efforts. It's caused one beautiful woman her life right in front of her poor father. There are going to be refugees as long as there is strife, and the insanity of the Muslim world certainly qualifies as strife. Years ago again over here, we had a big influx of Arabs, and especially Chaldean's. They assimilated and became part of our nation. The Arabs settled into communities and the Chaldean's settled into the liquor business. But they were most likely fleeing the same people who are now seeking asylum in your countries. It's going to be hard but you are not going to get anywhere in this day and age talking about expelling refugees. My thoughts? sh&^% sandwich. Take your bite and pass it on. Do you have a link for the lass that lost her life? Curiosity and all that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,354 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 It would be interesting to know how many asylum seekers/refugees/immigrants that the United States has taken from the Middle East in the last 20 years since the chuckle brothers Bush & Blair lit a match under the region ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_refugee_population#By_country_of_asylum We could do more I think. But the stats are a little surprising to me. As you look at our figure remember that many of those come from central America and are fleeing the Narco violence fueled by the habits of many of my countrymen. The USA leaves a pretty big foot print anywhere they go and the results while mostly good are not always that way. For the war are terror though the blame doesn't lie on the shoulders of the west. WILF I'm not trying to pick a fight I just think you have to be mindful of the world at large when you form policies. You start ejecting refugees because of their faith or appearance and next thing you know your South Africa of the eighties in the worlds eye. ATB Not trying to pick a fight either sir, "the war on terror" (that name makes me cringe a bit) was a response to an act of war......fair enough, but it became so much more......it got used to abuse civil rights of ordinary law abiding people, it got used to meddle in the affairs of other countries and the outcome is what we see today. My country and yours have to man up and accept the blame for what we have done. Without being rude, the United States government is a massive clumsy oaf when it comes to foreign policy.......they always seem to make things worse. And it's your brave servicemen and ours that wind up paying the price. I think we have to accept that our government (UK and USA) have gone from fairly moral regimes to vulgar kids in a sweet shop being told what to do by the big kids at Morgan Stanley People are dying for their frolics ! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nans pat 2,575 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 bob geldof has arrived on the scene,lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 It would be interesting to know how many asylum seekers/refugees/immigrants that the United States has taken from the Middle East in the last 20 years since the chuckle brothers Bush & Blair lit a match under the region ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_refugee_population#By_country_of_asylum We could do more I think. But the stats are a little surprising to me. As you look at our figure remember that many of those come from central America and are fleeing the Narco violence fueled by the habits of many of my countrymen. The USA leaves a pretty big foot print anywhere they go and the results while mostly good are not always that way. For the war are terror though the blame doesn't lie on the shoulders of the west. WILF I'm not trying to pick a fight I just think you have to be mindful of the world at large when you form policies. You start ejecting refugees because of their faith or appearance and next thing you know your South Africa of the eighties in the worlds eye. ATB Not trying to pick a fight either sir, "the war on terror" (that name makes me cringe a bit) was a response to an act of war......fair enough, but it became so much more......it got used to abuse civil rights of ordinary law abiding people, it got used to meddle in the affairs of other countries and the outcome is what we see today. My country and yours have to man up and accept the blame for what we have done. Without being rude, the United States government is a massive clumsy oaf when it comes to foreign policy.......they always seem to make things worse. And it's your brave servicemen and ours that wind up paying the price. I think we have to accept that our government (UK and USA) have gone from fairly moral regimes to vulgar kids in a sweet shop being told what to do by the big kids at Morgan Stanley People are dying for their frolics ! "Act of war" I agree with the rest though 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 3,016 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Germany has the strongest economy in Europe. So, they are the obvious choice for stepping up and helping. Each to their ability type of thing. Here in the USA there is the beginnings of a push to relax our immigration and we have certain city's which refuse to cooperate with the Federal Government's policies, and policing efforts. It's caused one beautiful woman her life right in front of her poor father. There are going to be refugees as long as there is strife, and the insanity of the Muslim world certainly qualifies as strife. Years ago again over here, we had a big influx of Arabs, and especially Chaldean's. They assimilated and became part of our nation. The Arabs settled into communities and the Chaldean's settled into the liquor business. But they were most likely fleeing the same people who are now seeking asylum in your countries. It's going to be hard but you are not going to get anywhere in this day and age talking about expelling refugees. My thoughts? sh&^% sandwich. Take your bite and pass it on. Do you have a link for the lass that lost her life? Curiosity and all that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Kathryn_Steinle http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/kathryn-steinles-shooting-death-sparks-debate-on-us-immigration/story-fn5tas5k-1227435418579 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 bob geldof has arrived on the scene,lol Jesus fecking Christ, have the refugees not suffered enough? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickey Finn 3,016 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 It would be interesting to know how many asylum seekers/refugees/immigrants that the United States has taken from the Middle East in the last 20 years since the chuckle brothers Bush & Blair lit a match under the region ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_refugee_population#By_country_of_asylum We could do more I think. But the stats are a little surprising to me. As you look at our figure remember that many of those come from central America and are fleeing the Narco violence fueled by the habits of many of my countrymen. The USA leaves a pretty big foot print anywhere they go and the results while mostly good are not always that way. For the war are terror though the blame doesn't lie on the shoulders of the west. WILF I'm not trying to pick a fight I just think you have to be mindful of the world at large when you form policies. You start ejecting refugees because of their faith or appearance and next thing you know your South Africa of the eighties in the worlds eye. ATB Not trying to pick a fight either sir, "the war on terror" (that name makes me cringe a bit) was a response to an act of war......fair enough, but it became so much more......it got used to abuse civil rights of ordinary law abiding people, it got used to meddle in the affairs of other countries and the outcome is what we see today. My country and yours have to man up and accept the blame for what we have done. Without being rude, the United States government is a massive clumsy oaf when it comes to foreign policy.......they always seem to make things worse. And it's your brave servicemen and ours that wind up paying the price. I think we have to accept that our government (UK and USA) have gone from fairly moral regimes to vulgar kids in a sweet shop being told what to do by the big kids at Morgan Stanley People are dying for their frolics ! "Act of war" I agree with the rest though I'll take the opposite position with some reservations Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulus 26 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 are they refugees fleeing persecution or are the economic migrants the media seems not understand the difference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Germany has the strongest economy in Europe. So, they are the obvious choice for stepping up and helping. Each to their ability type of thing. Here in the USA there is the beginnings of a push to relax our immigration and we have certain city's which refuse to cooperate with the Federal Government's policies, and policing efforts. It's caused one beautiful woman her life right in front of her poor father. There are going to be refugees as long as there is strife, and the insanity of the Muslim world certainly qualifies as strife. Years ago again over here, we had a big influx of Arabs, and especially Chaldean's. They assimilated and became part of our nation. The Arabs settled into communities and the Chaldean's settled into the liquor business. But they were most likely fleeing the same people who are now seeking asylum in your countries. It's going to be hard but you are not going to get anywhere in this day and age talking about expelling refugees. My thoughts? sh&^% sandwich. Take your bite and pass it on. Do you have a link for the lass that lost her life? Curiosity and all that. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Kathryn_Steinle http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/kathryn-steinles-shooting-death-sparks-debate-on-us-immigration/story-fn5tas5k-1227435418579 Cheers Mickey, I remember now reading about that before, what makes it worse is that it could have been avoided. I then read the wiki link to the Greek girl which is quite frightening. Shit like that happens in Sweden all the time as they are to liberal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hubbs 178 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I have many mixed views , and try not to be brainwashed by media nor friends. Even though I feel sympathy for alot of these desperate people as to be fair I'd want my family to live better and keep them away from brutality. But the way I see it there is a main reason they are coming to europe because we stood and faught for our freedom in many wars , children sent to safety from towns , women did men's work and men lost there lives battling with the enemy by the end of the day I believe there is more that can be done running isn't one thing I think will help there has to be another way we got here though our forefathers fighting for it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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