Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 What do you reckon it is? Mine's injured at least 3 times a season,he's got in early this year and is laid up already. So in years to come durability is going to be very high on my list of what I'll be looking for. The most durable type of lurcher, is the one that sustains the least damage,....simples.. 2 Quote Link to post
hjckcff 1,738 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 the cobby slower lurchers tend to be less injury prone . at least that's my opinion. ive had a couple of speedsters and they spent a fair bit of there short working lives in the sick bay. the most durable ones ive owned and seen have been first cross. collies or terrier crosses. Quote Link to post
hjckcff 1,738 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 There was a litter bread many money's ago buy jimmy Mcveiw a mole catcher pest controller they were firstx jimmy used to to ajilty at the lurcher shows with his full border collie and jyp the bitch he kept back the greyhound he used was from old tony the traveller now tony lived in the woods in a makeshift house the greyhound was reared as a lurcher there was rusty Beth and a few others in that litter two witch I seen took fox gypy I think held the high jump record for a few year I seen another fist x called jip now he was a great hunter I seen him take a good few hares from the seat but didn't have the speed Beth was the fastest bitch about unreal speed would leave whippet greyhounds standing but lacked the drive rusty gypy were certainly the fox killers of that litter but that little jip would draw any amount of quarry from a earth no matter the colour a very good terrier man used him for a good 5 seasons its horses for coarses I've never seen a dog that had it all but a few who came close its horses for courses lads it's making the most of the good parts Shurely that counts Jimmy wouldn't be a Scottish lad by any chance...?? Quote Link to post
keepitcovert 842 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Whats your views on weight ratio in comparison to injuries, the reason i ask is that a lot on here knock whippets, ive had a few that were branch busters, prey drive that they should never have survived beyond 3 years, yet spent the last days in front of the fire, and my best dog that died in a freak accident aged 4, woodland work suits the lighter dog IMO, Im a great fan of collie crosses and they may be the most durable of lurchers, is that self preservation or what, im sure it has something to do with it, mine avoids injuries, touch wood. I personally believe that too high a percentage of greyhound genes, can be a problem, lets face it the prey drive on pure greys is the kamikaze of the canine world. YIS KIC. 1 Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,511 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 The old bull x bitch I retired this week worked on all different terrain and didn't speed a day in the sick bay through running one to two after a hard day with the terriers but never otherwise and she run hard on everything but was a a thinker Quote Link to post
jake824 517 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 There like tanks Wales. I have an old dog and bitch here both first cross Bulls and they have never been laid off for any length. Ripped nails out and working knocks but no running injuries. Not the fastest but they are reliable the half cross Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,511 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Yea their tanks alright and sometimes I stop and think should have I bred her to a bull x and had some real hard dogs it's something I think il regret in the future but I'm down the collie x route at the moment and their working just fine and done what she did and maybe more ..... Quote Link to post
hjckcff 1,738 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) There was a litter bread many money's ago buy jimmy Mcveiw a mole catcher pest controller they were firstx jimmy used to to ajilty at the lurcher shows with his full border collie and jyp the bitch he kept back the greyhound he used was from old tony the traveller now tony lived in the woods in a makeshift house the greyhound was reared as a lurcher there was rusty Beth and a few others in that litter two witch I seen took fox gypy I think held the high jump record for a few year I seen another fist x called jip now he was a great hunter I seen him take a good few hares from the seat but didn't have the speed Beth was the fastest bitch about unreal speed would leave whippet greyhounds standing but lacked the drive rusty gypy were certainly the fox killers of that litter but that little jip would draw any amount of quarry from a earth no matter the colour a very good terrier man used him for a good 5 seasons its horses for coarses I've never seen a dog that had it all but a few who came close its horses for courses lads it's making the most of the good parts Shurely that counts yip that's him good lad used to have a wee folk night in pub way the Romanys And Jimmy that's himJimmy wouldn't be a Scottish lad by any chance...?? some folk say that there are not many charactors left in the dog game. lol. jimmy and a few more ive known should be on the old charactors thread lol Edited September 5, 2015 by hjckcff Quote Link to post
tjones3862 3,423 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) HIS IT THE BREEDING OF THE DOG ,,OR WHAT THE CHAP //WOMAN DOSE WITH THE DOG TO BRING THE BEST OUT OF THEM,,,,............,HAS FOR INJURYS,,, WHO KNOWS,,, ANY BREED WHAT GO,S OUT WILL AT SOME TIME TRIP UP,,,OR EVEN WORSE,,,,, Edited September 5, 2015 by tjones3862 Quote Link to post
hjckcff 1,738 Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 good working dogs that are out regular take injuries . a dog that is durable is not the ones that sail through a full career without any injuries. its the dog that has the ability to shake off the knocks and has a good rate of recovery from the injuries that are inevitably sustained.. a dog that works without many injuries isn't durable its downright lucky. Quote Link to post
bird 9,876 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 good working dogs that are out regular take injuries . a dog that is durable is not the ones that sail through a full career without any injuries. its the dog that has the ability to shake off the knocks and has a good rate of recovery from the injuries that are inevitably sustained.. a dog that works without many injuries isn't durable its downright lucky. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 You can have the toughest strongest Muhammad Bruce Lee of the lurcher world if that dog is 100% committed to its job it is going to get injured at some point during the season ... There is nothing soft in the countryside when you hit it at 20+ mph .......... Anybody that seeks the "Muhammad Bruce Lee" lurcher wants it to get wrecked,or they will be mortified,the vast majority of lurchers navigate their hunting life with the general injuries we become accustomed to,we become less accustomed to them if they are heavily Collie influenced?.Id not be happy with a dog that was prone to injury at lower speeds-20mph-id want it to run faster for longer before it got injured,as we have little control on the injury,s that often pop up at the slowest speeds and at the most inconvenient times,we take our chances.Dogs that are 100% committed are the dogs that id not breed or have a pup from,dumb feckers,id want something with more savvy thats about 75%,less prone to injury,catches far more than a dog laid up recuperating and is often more useful to the owner for season after season.Dogs with big Gonads are for Ego,s,dogs that earn their snap,over many a year,are for lurcherfolk,generally. 1 Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I don't think anybody said they wanted a dog with big gonads ..... Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I don't think anybody said they wanted a dog with big gonads ..... I don't think anybody said they wanted a dog with big gonads ..... "toughest strongest Muhammad Bruce Lee",is bigger Gonads than the average lurcher needs restricting its pace,i believe you said it Socks?,possibly unintentionally,or ive read it all wrong?. Quote Link to post
socks 32,253 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I don't think anybody said they wanted a dog with big gonads ..... I don't think anybody said they wanted a dog with big gonads ..... "toughest strongest Muhammad Bruce Lee",is bigger Gonads than the average lurcher needs restricting its pace,i believe you said it Socks?,possibly unintentionally,or ive read it all wrong?. You've missunderstood what I was getting at ... The point I was trying to make was even the toughest most robust of lurchers will get injured if they give 100% every time they are out ... It's inevitable ........ Quote Link to post
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