The Future Of Working Lurchers.

[Dewclaw69 484]

Well, Well, At last after nearly twenty years the dragon awakes. the Association of Lurcher Clubs is accepted by both the Countryside Alliance and the Council of Hunting Associations as the governing body for Lurcher/Longdog work. As Chairman of the Association I sit on the board of the Council of Hunting Associations on whose behalf I have attended meetings in the House of Commons and At the head office of the Countryside Alliance in Kennington road in London and have direct contact with the Countryside Alliance.

Before the Ban the Association of Lurcher Clubs (ALC) was one of the biggest hunting associations affiliated to the Council of Hunting Associations, (CHA) One of the reasons for it's popularity was the "Forley Cup" which brought coursing men/women from all parts of the country to test their Longdogs in the biggest and hardest competition for coursing Lurchers the coursing world had ever known. The competition and membership fees enabled the ALC to take the fight for hunting with Lurchers to the forefront against the hunting ban. We along with other hunting associations lost.

After the ban was put in place, membership of all the forms of hunting suffered. We, the ALC most of all. Since 2004 I have done the best that I could with no club income. I have attended every CLA and Midland Game Fairs at my own expence, with a display within the Countryside Alliance marque, promoting the repeal of the hunting ban with special interest for the Lurcher/Longdog owner. In short, you already have a organisation that is already in a position and has the contacts to represent the working Lurcher/Longdog Hunter.

As I have stated I attended the CLA Game Fair to represent Lurcher work for twenty years, and yet, this year I found that my attendance was not needed!! I went any way and spoke to Tim Bonner who stated that due to cut backs the marquee was smaller and there was no room. I stood by the massive stall selling various Items and wondered If this was the truth of the matter.

There you have it. The Association stands ready to do your wishes, But the ALC needs Membership and finance. If there are enough of you that really want to fight let me know and I will organise a venue for a meeting. So come on stand and be counted.

 

Alan Tyer

Chairman

Association of Lurcher Clubs.

thanks for the input courser. whats the current state of the ALC ? current members ? If the CLA did not recognise the need for the ALC to attend maybe its time to shake things up a little. Presumably you have seen my email to the CLA and Tim's response ?

[Dewclaw69 484]

 

 

 

we now have interested parties from

 

north west

south west

south

east

 

anyone interested from north east, scotland, wales, northern ireland

add the east midlands to that

 

you in paulus ?

 

errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm yes

 

cheers Paulus. PM me an email address will you ? Mine will follow by return. Rob

[Flynn 314]

its the C A Rob

[MickyB 327]

 

Well, Well, At last after nearly twenty years the dragon awakes. the Association of Lurcher Clubs is accepted by both the Countryside Alliance and the Council of Hunting Associations as the governing body for Lurcher/Longdog work. As Chairman of the Association I sit on the board of the Council of Hunting Associations on whose behalf I have attended meetings in the House of Commons and At the head office of the Countryside Alliance in Kennington road in London and have direct contact with the Countryside Alliance.

Before the Ban the Association of Lurcher Clubs (ALC) was one of the biggest hunting associations affiliated to the Council of Hunting Associations, (CHA) One of the reasons for it's popularity was the "Forley Cup" which brought coursing men/women from all parts of the country to test their Longdogs in the biggest and hardest competition for coursing Lurchers the coursing world had ever known. The competition and membership fees enabled the ALC to take the fight for hunting with Lurchers to the forefront against the hunting ban. We along with other hunting associations lost.

After the ban was put in place, membership of all the forms of hunting suffered. We, the ALC most of all. Since 2004 I have done the best that I could with no club income. I have attended every CLA and Midland Game Fairs at my own expence, with a display within the Countryside Alliance marque, promoting the repeal of the hunting ban with special interest for the Lurcher/Longdog owner. In short, you already have a organisation that is already in a position and has the contacts to represent the working Lurcher/Longdog Hunter.

As I have stated I attended the CLA Game Fair to represent Lurcher work for twenty years, and yet, this year I found that my attendance was not needed!! I went any way and spoke to Tim Bonner who stated that due to cut backs the marquee was smaller and there was no room. I stood by the massive stall selling various Items and wondered If this was the truth of the matter.

There you have it. The Association stands ready to do your wishes, But the ALC needs Membership and finance. If there are enough of you that really want to fight let me know and I will organise a venue for a meeting. So come on stand and be counted.

 

Alan Tyer

Chairman

Association of Lurcher Clubs.

I had never even heard of the ALC until this thread. Never knew you existed.

 

That must say something?

 

I would be happy to make a monthly or annual donation to a club fighting our corner as I'm sure many others would be.

Same here mate never heard of it but if its already set up, I'd take him up on his offer.

 

Courser -

What's the cost of membership?

What's the plan for marketing and to achieve a web presence?

How do we plan to combat anti and police propaganda?

How do you plan to rock the boat enough to create some ripples and get dome attention from the right people?

What can we do to help?

 

I know its a lot of questions but its something we've been going over for the last couple of days.

 

Mick

[Dunkanon 380]

loads of positive stuff being said, and bags of enthusiasm from plenty folk. Couple of things, I agree that given time area reps would be good etc, but initially i feel the main focus would be to put together a small commitee to attend the meeting with the CA chap. Socks,Skycat and desertbred get my vote, simply because you all come across articulate and present good ideas in the right way. Obviously Im not against anyone else attending either who is willing to go along. Also i dont think the financial offer of paying for anything (domain name etc) by one individual is good practice (altho a kind offer) Ive seen things in the past where that can lead to individual personalities having too much influence etc (not saying thats the case here) but for good ethical practice its best paid for by a group of members as a whole. "Principles before personalities"

 

Finally, I spend half the year working away from home, and consider myself a part timer where working dogs are concerned and am certainly not a name in dog circles by anymeans but whenever i am available I would be willing to help out in anyway I can.

 

atb

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

 

 

Well, Well, At last after nearly twenty years the dragon awakes. the Association of Lurcher Clubs is accepted by both the Countryside Alliance and the Council of Hunting Associations as the governing body for Lurcher/Longdog work. As Chairman of the Association I sit on the board of the Council of Hunting Associations on whose behalf I have attended meetings in the House of Commons and At the head office of the Countryside Alliance in Kennington road in London and have direct contact with the Countryside Alliance.

Before the Ban the Association of Lurcher Clubs (ALC) was one of the biggest hunting associations affiliated to the Council of Hunting Associations, (CHA) One of the reasons for it's popularity was the "Forley Cup" which brought coursing men/women from all parts of the country to test their Longdogs in the biggest and hardest competition for coursing Lurchers the coursing world had ever known. The competition and membership fees enabled the ALC to take the fight for hunting with Lurchers to the forefront against the hunting ban. We along with other hunting associations lost.

After the ban was put in place, membership of all the forms of hunting suffered. We, the ALC most of all. Since 2004 I have done the best that I could with no club income. I have attended every CLA and Midland Game Fairs at my own expence, with a display within the Countryside Alliance marque, promoting the repeal of the hunting ban with special interest for the Lurcher/Longdog owner. In short, you already have a organisation that is already in a position and has the contacts to represent the working Lurcher/Longdog Hunter.

As I have stated I attended the CLA Game Fair to represent Lurcher work for twenty years, and yet, this year I found that my attendance was not needed!! I went any way and spoke to Tim Bonner who stated that due to cut backs the marquee was smaller and there was no room. I stood by the massive stall selling various Items and wondered If this was the truth of the matter.

There you have it. The Association stands ready to do your wishes, But the ALC needs Membership and finance. If there are enough of you that really want to fight let me know and I will organise a venue for a meeting. So come on stand and be counted.

 

Alan Tyer

Chairman

Association of Lurcher Clubs.

I had never even heard of the ALC until this thread. Never knew you existed.

 

That must say something?

 

I would be happy to make a monthly or annual donation to a club fighting our corner as I'm sure many others would be.

Same here mate never heard of it but if its already set up, I'd take him up on his offer.

 

Courser -

What's the cost of membership?

What's the plan for marketing and to achieve a web presence?

How do we plan to combat anti and police propaganda?

How do you plan to rock the boat enough to create some ripples and get dome attention from the right people?

What can we do to help?

 

I know its a lot of questions but its something we've been going over for the last couple of days.

 

Mick

Yeh I agree. Seems daft starting a new club when one is up and running. But if most of the members on here haven't heard of it then it needs some serious shake up. Lol

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

loads of positive stuff being said, and bags of enthusiasm from plenty folk. Couple of things, I agree that given time area reps would be good etc, but initially i feel the main focus would be to put together a small commitee to attend the meeting with the CA chap. Socks,Skycat and desertbred get my vote, simply because you all come across articulate and present good ideas in the right way. Obviously Im not against anyone else attending either who is willing to go along. Also i dont think the financial offer of paying for anything (domain name etc) by one individual is good practice (altho a kind offer) Ive seen things in the past where that can lead to individual personalities having too much influence etc (not saying thats the case here) but for good ethical practice its best paid for by a group of members as a whole. "Principles before personalities"

 

Finally, I spend half the year working away from home, and consider myself a part timer where working dogs are concerned and am certainly not a name in dog circles by anymeans but whenever i am available I would be willing to help out in anyway I can.

 

atb

I wasn't talking about giving an individual a lump some to buy my way in. Lol. I was talking about paying a standard membership fee. Which surely is what's needed here to raise some capital?

[Dewclaw69 484]

Thought i'd speak to Dave Sleight to see if he would support this. Dave doesn't use the internet and does have a lot on his plate currently but in future would do anything he could to help.

[paulus 26]

country-file how many times on TV is all lurcher work referred to as baiting and to report anyone with a dog and lamp. then theres the matter of the rspca using the animal welfare act to take out private prosecutions for allegedly force a dog to fight with another animal. a very large mountain to climb and a lot of media involvement would be needed as joe public will have no idea otherwise.

[Dewclaw69 484]

FOR ALL WHO HAVE GIVEN ME THEIR EMAIL ADDRESSES.........

are you ok with me sending a group email out ( so obviously other folks emails will show)

Ping me a message if you are ok with this. We need to start chatting together to see how we go forward with this. Alone or with the ALC etc.

cheers

[Flynn 314]

 

loads of positive stuff being said, and bags of enthusiasm from plenty folk. Couple of things, I agree that given time area reps would be good etc, but initially i feel the main focus would be to put together a small commitee to attend the meeting with the CA chap. Socks,Skycat and desertbred get my vote, simply because you all come across articulate and present good ideas in the right way. Obviously Im not against anyone else attending either who is willing to go along. Also i dont think the financial offer of paying for anything (domain name etc) by one individual is good practice (altho a kind offer) Ive seen things in the past where that can lead to individual personalities having too much influence etc (not saying thats the case here) but for good ethical practice its best paid for by a group of members as a whole. "Principles before personalities"

 

Finally, I spend half the year working away from home, and consider myself a part timer where working dogs are concerned and am certainly not a name in dog circles by anymeans but whenever i am available I would be willing to help out in anyway I can.

 

atb

I wasn't talking about giving an individual a lump some to buy my way in. Lol. I was talking about paying a standard membership fee. Which surely is what's needed here to raise some capital?

 

I have mentioned the ALC a few times Gaz and i know Alan worked close with the police up and down the country

[paulus 26]

FOR ALL WHO HAVE GIVEN ME THEIR EMAIL ADDRESSES.........

are you ok with me sending a group email out ( so obviously other folks emails will show)

Ping me a message if you are ok with this. We need to start chatting together to see how we go forward with this. Alone or with the ALC etc.

cheers

count sac`s out, tried them already, initially were all for it, then Alex went all covert and vanished

[Bosun11 537]

 

 

Regions how about

 

South

South East

South West

Midlands

Midlands East

Midlands West

South Yorkshire/Humberside

North - East and West Yorkshire

 

northwest? Lancs and Cumbria etc

I put N/west that would include Lancs Cumbria Westmorland goes with N/east and then borders and Scotand I posted before the list was complete apologies

Err, lets not forget Merseyside folks, last time i checked it was still in the North West (I knew this as I turned South West an i could still smell the Welsh..!)

[Allan P 1,150]

How and where can the ALC be joined, if there is a club already formed with a structure in place do we need another one ?

[Lenmcharristar 9,920]

just be careful too what yas post on here as the antis will try theyre best to sab any work you plan to do,