BGD 6,436 Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) We had a pressa about 10 yrs ago. Spike. I've had lurchers. Terriers. And staffs. And the most loyal family friendly intelligent and trustworthy dog we ever had was spike. My young lads would sit on the carpet eating ther dinner Infront of the TV and he would sit by there side and not 1 glance at there dinner. There was no need to lock the back door at night as he would sleep in the kitchen. And I've knocked around with some real handy lads. And I know for a fact he was a real man stopper. He loved whole gutted rabbits with the fur on they were like crisps to him lol a few crunches and it would be gone. Tremendous biting power more that twice the power of a good staff. Here's a few pics.d This his his brother He was a stunner A real good mastiff type sure leaves a lasting impression if you're ever lucky enough to own one Thanks BGD me and the wife have spoke about him. And we both agree maybe once in a lifetime you will own a dog who will make a massive impression in your life. I can't quite put my finger on it so to speak but he touched us in a way we will never forget. It sounds daft mate but that's what he done. Even the kids often talk about spike. We would part with untold money to have him from a pup again.I know exactly where you're coming from pal, there's those once in a lifetime dogs out there I lost my Diesel(PitBull x Bullmastiff) 4 years ago now and I still always think of him and family and friends are always bringing him up in conversation, he left an impression on everyone he met Edited September 1, 2015 by BGD 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King. 215 Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 Forest of Dean. We travelled to Yorkshire to purchase a bitch pressa. Apparently the sire was the main guard dog on the set of big brother. And by 7 months old she was a a wild thing you could look into her eyes and just see a blank void. She kicked off 1 day with my staff bitch who was I her prime and really lean and fit. And they went hammer and tong for a good 15mins before I got home from work after the wife called the boss. To a pair of bitches both red with blood and smashed up. Dozens of cuts and lacerations on the pair. Split lips ripped years. She had some serious prey drive in her. So just watch what you buy and spend time with the breeder and the dam and sire. As they are very. Very powerful dogs and not for the faint hearted. All the best king 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King. 215 Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 We had a pressa about 10 yrs ago. Spike. I've had lurchers. Terriers. And staffs. And the most loyal family friendly intelligent and trustworthy dog we ever had was spike. My young lads would sit on the carpet eating ther dinner Infront of the TV and he would sit by there side and not 1 glance at there dinner. There was no need to lock the back door at night as he would sleep in the kitchen. And I've knocked around with some real handy lads. And I know for a fact he was a real man stopper. He loved whole gutted rabbits with the fur on they were like crisps to him lol a few crunches and it would be gone. Tremendous biting power more that twice the power of a good staff. Here's a few pics.d This his his brother He was a stunner A real good mastiff type sure leaves a lasting impression if you're ever lucky enough to own one Thanks BGD me and the wife have spoke about him. And we both agree maybe once in a lifetime you will own a dog who will make a massive impression in your life. I can't quite put my finger on it so to speak but he touched us in a way we will never forget. It sounds daft mate but that's what he done. Even the kids often talk about spike. We would part with untold money to have him from a pup again.I know exactly where you're coming from pal, there's those once in a lifetime dogs out there I lost my Diesel(PitBull x Bullmastiff) 4 years ago now and I still always think of him and family and friends are always bringing him up in conversation, he left an impression on everyone he met There must be something in those mastiffs mate. I've told people before what I'm gonna tell you and half the people have called me a liar. But the wife taught spike to wink lol. I came home from work and the wife said I've taught him a new trick go on then I said what. Look she said and true to her word he would wink on command. Very intelligent breed of dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 We had a pressa about 10 yrs ago. Spike. I've had lurchers. Terriers. And staffs. And the most loyal family friendly intelligent and trustworthy dog we ever had was spike. My young lads would sit on the carpet eating ther dinner Infront of the TV and he would sit by there side and not 1 glance at there dinner. There was no need to lock the back door at night as he would sleep in the kitchen. And I've knocked around with some real handy lads. And I know for a fact he was a real man stopper. He loved whole gutted rabbits with the fur on they were like crisps to him lol a few crunches and it would be gone. Tremendous biting power more that twice the power of a good staff. Here's a few pics.d This his his brother He was a stunner A real good mastiff type sure leaves a lasting impression if you're ever lucky enough to own one Thanks BGD me and the wife have spoke about him. And we both agree maybe once in a lifetime you will own a dog who will make a massive impression in your life. I can't quite put my finger on it so to speak but he touched us in a way we will never forget. It sounds daft mate but that's what he done. Even the kids often talk about spike. We would part with untold money to have him from a pup again.I know exactly where you're coming from pal, there's those once in a lifetime dogs out there I lost my Diesel(PitBull x Bullmastiff) 4 years ago now and I still always think of him and family and friends are always bringing him up in conversation, he left an impression on everyone he met There must be something in those mastiffs mate. I've told people before what I'm gonna tell you and half the people have called me a liar. But the wife taught spike to wink lol. I came home from work and the wife said I've taught him a new trick go on then I said what. Look she said and true to her word he would wink on command. Very intelligent breed of dog. I believe you pal They're so in tune with their owners its almost like there's a telepathic link. Mastiffs are very underrated dogs when it comes to intelligence, probably because the only "mastiff" most people have met are big fat useless KC lumps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King. 215 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 1 day we will get another mastiff BGD. Have you got any pics of diesel to put up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,622 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Forest of Dean. We travelled to Yorkshire to purchase a bitch pressa. Apparently the sire was the main guard dog on the set of big brother. And by 7 months old she was a a wild thing you could look into her eyes and just see a blank void. She kicked off 1 day with my staff bitch who was I her prime and really lean and fit. And they went hammer and tong for a good 15mins before I got home from work after the wife called the boss. To a pair of bitches both red with blood and smashed up. Dozens of cuts and lacerations on the pair. Split lips ripped years. She had some serious prey drive in her. So just watch what you buy and spend time with the breeder and the dam and sire. As they are very. Very powerful dogs and not for the faint hearted. All the best king Cheers if I got one,it would be years from now,when youngest kids are all grown up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 1 day we will get another mastiff BGD. Have you got any pics of diesel to put up I've been thinking about getting myself another mastiff type recently it'll probably be a while until I find one that's up to my standards though. Here's some pics of Diesel at various ages, really wish I had took more off him now. Black APBT with him is my current nutter of a house dog 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King. 215 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Hes Very athletic BGD that second pic down is a cracker there's not much loose skin on him either. He makes the apbt look like a pup in that pic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Hes Very athletic BGD that second pic down is a cracker there's not much loose skin on him either. He makes the apbt look like a pup in that pic. He was the most athletic mastiff type I've ever known (and I've known some serious mastiffs). He could clear a 5 bar gate and would regularly come along with me when I was exercising the APBT bitches doing 10+ miles on the bike, I tell you watching a dog of that size working a springpole like a pit is a seriously impressive sight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mcginn123 1 Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Could someone plz tell me how to get in touch with j7.. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dare 1,103 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Dont know why but been looking more at these presas. Just wondering what is the real difference between these and an american bulldog? Gonna have alot of poor examples if not most will be i bet. If both bred for purpose though what would seperate the two? Like the look of both when in good shape otherwise some look pretty useless to me. Few presas seem to remind me of a bulldog i knew, wouldnt of been any use for a guard though he was a friendly giant lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Dont know why but been looking more at these presas. Just wondering what is the real difference between these and an american bulldog? Gonna have alot of poor examples if not most will be i bet. If both bred for purpose though what would seperate the two? Like the look of both when in good shape otherwise some look pretty useless to me. Few presas seem to remind me of a bulldog i knew, wouldnt of been any use for a guard though he was a friendly giant lol. The Presa has a totally different temperament to an AmBull, alot sharper and more switched on. They have a healthy dose of Bardino Majero (the local flock guardian/herding breed)in them which really sets them apart from your usual mastiff/bulldog type. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,932 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Dont know why but been looking more at these presas. Just wondering what is the real difference between these and an american bulldog? Gonna have alot of poor examples if not most will be i bet. If both bred for purpose though what would seperate the two? Like the look of both when in good shape otherwise some look pretty useless to me. Few presas seem to remind me of a bulldog i knew, wouldnt of been any use for a guard though he was a friendly giant lol. The Presa has a totally different temperament to an AmBull, alot sharper and more switched on. They have a healthy dose of Bardino Majero (the local flock guardian/herding breed)in them which really sets them apart from your usual mastiff/bulldog type. I didn't know that , any more info on them , just was wondering how they came about , pm if you want .! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Dont know why but been looking more at these presas. Just wondering what is the real difference between these and an american bulldog? Gonna have alot of poor examples if not most will be i bet. If both bred for purpose though what would seperate the two? Like the look of both when in good shape otherwise some look pretty useless to me. Few presas seem to remind me of a bulldog i knew, wouldnt of been any use for a guard though he was a friendly giant lol.The Presa has a totally different temperament to an AmBull, alot sharper and more switched on. They have a healthy dose of Bardino Majero (the local flock guardian/herding breed)in them which really sets them apart from your usual mastiff/bulldog type. I didn't know that , any more info on them , just was wondering how they came about , pm if you want .! Well British & Spanish sailors brought their dogs and love of bullbaiting and dogfighting to the Canary Islands and then when they left the locals carried on breeding the British & Spanish mastiffs and bulldogs with their own local dogs eventually creating the Presa a sort of general purpose farm and fighting dog, very much like the early history of the bulldog in the southern US Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,932 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Dont know why but been looking more at these presas. Just wondering what is the real difference between these and an american bulldog? Gonna have alot of poor examples if not most will be i bet. If both bred for purpose though what would seperate the two? Like the look of both when in good shape otherwise some look pretty useless to me. Few presas seem to remind me of a bulldog i knew, wouldnt of been any use for a guard though he was a friendly giant lol.The Presa has a totally different temperament to an AmBull, alot sharper and more switched on. They have a healthy dose of Bardino Majero (the local flock guardian/herding breed)in them which really sets them apart from your usual mastiff/bulldog type. I didn't know that , any more info on them , just was wondering how they came about , pm if you want .! Well British & Spanish sailors brought their dogs and love of bullbaiting and dogfighting to the Canary Islands and then when they left the locals carried on breeding the British & Spanish mastiffs and bulldogs with their own local dogs eventually creating the Presa a sort of general purpose farm and fighting dog, very much like the early history of the bulldog in the southern US thanks how do you rate them as a guard dog, I know my self any big breed as prob with hips+ elbows like abd,bullmastiffs,rotties,mastiffs anything really over 80lb s you get probs, suppose that's why the bel mal + dutch shepherd popular as guard because very full on with very strong jaw, but this the big thing there healthy than most guard breeds and more than a gsd . but I think I rather face a bel mal than , any full grown presa ive read there more driven than rottie, mastiffs, etc as big dogs there are very full on dogs . suppose the old gsd are easier to train and if things got out of hand you could stop them, you prob struggle with presa , didn't one kill a woman few years back in the usa . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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