bunnys 1,228 Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Been said depends what one hunts on the night ,rabbit dogs some like text book stuff straight in hand etc. others not to fussy a yard a 2close enough stamina durability strong foot and brain one can then get ta work with the animal it's no big shakes even the most prey driven types can be mastered ,it's all about the handler and his approach and skill a great bond a must , break the bond and then one loses the animal. Some like no nose what they all have the new age times have brung a new age lamper but there still be old school types that want a relationship with there animal and these can bring the best from substandard stock ,these are the types that live there animals and it's great ta see them because like the hound with a nose they like rocking horse shit. Lol. 1 Quote Link to post
look up 406 Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Wind Strick Gears And A good running brain...and plenty put in front of it at the wright age...atb Quote Link to post
mhopton 807 Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 I was just making the point that often it's an attribute that isn't particularly required in a lamp dog, day work is a different thing. I fully admit i've not done much in the lamp and i lack the ability of some of you pros , I'd like to think I have a slight grasp of day stuff, my original point was poking fun at the fact that my dog hunts up, which makes little difference to myself as I lamp rarely and when out with friends they don't set their expectations too high thankfully. That's the trouble these days joe to many pros , I'm lucky enough to have a dog who's good at day work and night so I understand your point atb mark 1 Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,076 Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Common sense Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,063 Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) On the subject of nose, some rabbits stop just inside the darkness of the hedge. I like a dog that uses a combination of nose, eyes and ears to pluck these ones out. This type of animal will soon learn to peg squatters too. Edited August 29, 2015 by Maximus Ferret Quote Link to post
Wales1234 5,489 Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 I don't do much lamping now but my bitch knows the lamp to me its a mixture of things not hunting up retrieve not whistling to get them back lamp off dog back ! Jumping in the dark and waiting by the fence once it's jumped and not dragging you around the fecking field ! My bitch will go stiff and the entrance of a field if there's a fox in there lol also find it mad she won't hunt up on the lamp but will cover miles in the day !! Quote Link to post
bunnys 1,228 Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 My new pups happy to sit alone..very independent.. Strange for a young pup not wanting any fuss and a like..That can change when u start working them....I like it when there needy...as it means they like my company lol...iam away to kick this mutt as she's really getting in my way ..might take her out tommorrw night see if that's cures her clingyNess lol2015-08-28 22.27.44.jpg . Nice type and I like your the style of outlook he she quite obviously sees thee has they should . Atb bunnys. Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 Maybe it's just me but imo any half decent running dog can be a good lamper, nothing that hard in the game. Greats are a bit different though but behind both is an owner that is both keen as feck and has a fair bit of lamp savvy and it's him/her that makes the dog... No doubt about it! Quote Link to post
pro keeper 111 Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 I teach my dogs to work the lamp first, this works for me I find the lamp is a great way to enter a dog and the dog stands a better chance of success, most dogs take to lamping well,once you get them going on the lamp you can start hunting in the day and ferreting, the worst thing in a lamping dog is 1 that's hunts at night, how ever taking rabbits that have just jumped Into the hedge and sat there does require some nose work at times! And a dog that masters that art brings more to the bag, as does a good lamp man, knowledge of the ground you hunt and where the rabbits are likely to be and run to is also most important, cut the rabbits off on there way home puts the odds In your favour. Lamping is a silent sport so teaching your dog to return when the light goes out is a must. Having your dog fit also ups the bag and this is where most go wrong! 1 Quote Link to post
keepitcovert 842 Posted August 29, 2015 Report Share Posted August 29, 2015 What the hell is a lamping dog, mine lamp ,work the nets and mooch, so why do so many guys on here want a one trick pony, seems hunting up is a problem on this thread, thats not just nose just a lack of training on recall, not the easiest of problems to solve, but one thats often overlooked and can defeat you. Just like the fen guys you choose your sport and good luck to you, but for me i want a dog that can turn its hand to day and night work .YIS KIC 2 Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Maybe it's just me but imo any half decent running dog can be a good lamper, nothing that hard in the game. Greats are a bit different though but behind both is an owner that is both keen as feck and has a fair bit of lamp savvy and it's him/her that makes the dog... No doubt about it!Couldn't agree more, Years ago lamped with a half bred terrier cross , no speed to talk about , worst feet I've ever seen and a short little terrier tail on it but game as f**k , caught most in or around the hedge , Wouldn't have swapped her for any fleet footed speed merchant A dog will find a way of catching to suit it's attributes if you throw enough work at it , Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,693 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) Maybe it's just me but imo any half decent running dog can be a good lamper, nothing that hard in the game. Greats are a bit different though but behind both is an owner that is both keen as feck and has a fair bit of lamp savvy and it's him/her that makes the dog... No doubt about it!Couldn't agree more,Years ago lamped with a half bred terrier cross , no speed to talk about , worst feet I've ever seen and a short little terrier tail on it but game as f**k , caught most in or around the hedge , Wouldn't have swapped her for any fleet footed speed merchant A dog will find a way of catching to suit it's attributes if you throw enough work at it , Hmmm, I get what you're saying, but I disagree. In 90% of the places where we're from, unless you've got a 'fast' type, you're going home empty handed, day or night. Not wishing to argue, just saying as it is, and always has been Edited August 31, 2015 by shaaark 1 Quote Link to post
Stud dog 632 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Speed an brains go along way in any good lamping dog an knowing when to strike but only way to get any dog good on lamp is getting it out lamping regular that's what makes a good lamping dog 1 Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 Maybe it's just me but imo any half decent running dog can be a good lamper, nothing that hard in the game. Greats are a bit different though but behind both is an owner that is both keen as feck and has a fair bit of lamp savvy and it's him/her that makes the dog... No doubt about it!Couldn't agree more,Years ago lamped with a half bred terrier cross , no speed to talk about , worst feet I've ever seen and a short little terrier tail on it but game as f**k , caught most in or around the hedge , Wouldn't have swapped her for any fleet footed speed merchant A dog will find a way of catching to suit it's attributes if you throw enough work at it , Hmmm, I get what you're saying, but I disagree. In 90% of the places where we're from, unless you've got a 'fast' type, you're going home empty handed, day or night. Not wishing to argue, just saying as it is, and always has been That's interesting , because ive never thought speed as been a major issue in catching rabbits, Are the rabbits super fast there ?? Not trying to be smart , I was always taken by how cunning a dog could run, we had one dog who would run his rabbit after a quick flick of the lamp , send him up in the dark , he trigged you had spotted a bunny and would run to that spot with the lamp off , give him a few seconds knock it back on and he was there on top of it , Thing is you can't teach that stuff , the dog don't need to be fleet footed either , it takes years on years and a good dog/owner partnership, I would never have bred with speed in mind , I just assumed the average runner was fast enough Why are the rabbits so hard to catch there 2 Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted August 31, 2015 Report Share Posted August 31, 2015 I'd agree Casso, speed kill's more lamp dogs than anything else! Quote Link to post
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