marshman 7,758 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 And the torys are hand in glove with the saudis and f**k knows who else when we know for a fact they fund terrorism Whats the difference They're all scum. you'd make a good politician always turning it away from labour and spinning it about the conservatives ? . Yes yes they'll snides we all know that but labour are the biggest quislings of the lot mate ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 And the torys are hand in glove with the saudis and f**k knows who else when we know for a fact they fund terrorism Whats the difference They're all scum. The Saudis own most of the ports and God knows what else ... probly half the country ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 And the torys are hand in glove with the saudis and f**k knows who else when we know for a fact they fund terrorism Whats the difference They're all scum. you'd make a good politician always turning it away from labour and spinning it about the conservatives . Yes yes they'll snides we all know that but labour are the biggest quislings of the lot mate ! I hate the conservatives mate, always have, wouldn't piss on one if they were on fire...........with good reason..........they get a bit of support on here because of hunting/immigration.............but it's all bollocks..........if the rich/elite didn't want cheap labour, and f**k knows what else it's about?....we wouldn't have mass immigration...........they all want mass immigration............nothing between them, all a shower of shit. We've had this labour/conservative game of ping pong for a hundred years..........best country in the world..........and we've still got working people in food banks............ when the f**k will people stop following the herd and false loyalty's that don't stand up to logic, and f**k the lot of them off? Probably never. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,758 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 And the torys are hand in glove with the saudis and f**k knows who else when we know for a fact they fund terrorism Whats the difference They're all scum. you'd make a good politician always turning it away from labour and spinning it about the conservatives . Yes yes they'll snides we all know that but labour are the biggest quislings of the lot mate ! I hate the conservatives mate, always have, wouldn't piss on one if they were on fire...........with good reason..........they get a bit of support on here because of hunting/immigration.............but it's all bollocks..........if the rich/elite didn't want cheap labour, and f**k knows what else it's about?....we wouldn't have mass immigration...........they all want mass immigration............nothing between them, all a shower of shit. We've had this labour/conservative game of ping pong for a hundred years..........best country in the world..........and we've still got working people in food banks............ when the f**k will people stop following the herd and false loyalty's that don't stand up to logic, and f**k the lot of them off? Probably never. Fair play mate I do understand and agree with what you say it's just this thread is about a labour man that is actively meeting people and sucking up to men that would do us and our country harm . Now when I see a conservative doing the same in such a public way I'll say the same about them as I would about corbyn ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lloyd90 509 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Don't care what anyone says, regardless of who's on charge After seeing first hand some people in society (the bottom of the barrel) there are people who are genuinely too stupid, too lazy and too fecked in the head to do anything besides sponge, steal and have hand outs. Any other species they would be culled or die out sharpish. There's always people who are born disables, have family die or just fall on bard times, but there's wankers out there ruining it for people who need it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J Darcy 5,871 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 And the torys are hand in glove with the saudis and f**k knows who else when we know for a fact they fund terrorism Whats the difference They're all scum. you'd make a good politician always turning it away from labour and spinning it about the conservatives . Yes yes they'll snides we all know that but labour are the biggest quislings of the lot mate ! I hate the conservatives mate, always have, wouldn't piss on one if they were on fire...........with good reason..........they get a bit of support on here because of hunting/immigration.............but it's all bollocks..........if the rich/elite didn't want cheap labour, and f**k knows what else it's about?....we wouldn't have mass immigration...........they all want mass immigration............nothing between them, all a shower of shit. We've had this labour/conservative game of ping pong for a hundred years..........best country in the world..........and we've still got working people in food banks............ when the f**k will people stop following the herd and false loyalty's that don't stand up to logic, and f**k the lot of them off? Probably never. So , realistically, what is your solution Truther? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 And the torys are hand in glove with the saudis and f**k knows who else when we know for a fact they fund terrorism Whats the difference They're all scum. you'd make a good politician always turning it away from labour and spinning it about the conservatives . Yes yes they'll snides we all know that but labour are the biggest quislings of the lot mate ! I hate the conservatives mate, always have, wouldn't piss on one if they were on fire...........with good reason..........they get a bit of support on here because of hunting/immigration.............but it's all bollocks..........if the rich/elite didn't want cheap labour, and f**k knows what else it's about?....we wouldn't have mass immigration...........they all want mass immigration............nothing between them, all a shower of shit. We've had this labour/conservative game of ping pong for a hundred years..........best country in the world..........and we've still got working people in food banks............ when the f**k will people stop following the herd and false loyalty's that don't stand up to logic, and f**k the lot of them off? Probably never. So , realistically, what is your solution Truther? "None of the above" I know it will work.............they've banned anybody starting a political party called none of the above...........that should tell you something?.............Course it would mean "real democracy" and it's fairly obvious people don't want that atm................to scared to take responsibility for their own lives...............and the c**ts we let run the country are no better..........that's why consent is such a big thing.......the "we're all in it together" what they're scared of is making a decision that goes badly wrong and they can't share the blame with the rest of us and get us to do the fighting and dying for them......in reality we have the power.....just to stupid to use it properly. Ill save time............it wont mean a change of party's or chaos...........it means the majority get to dictate policy........without compromise..........the whole idea behind a democracy being logical.................don't have the policy's the majority want to live by..........lose power.........simple. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,892 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 if he gets elected he will say a big fat sorry over the Iraq war ,,, bless him thatl make things a whole heap better Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,967 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 He slated the yanks, to do with Iraq. I hope he gets to visit America and they do a number on him Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nothernlite 18,090 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 FECK THEM ALL THERE ALL SCUM 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,206 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 It don't matter who is in charge of who, if they promise you 2p off a litre of diesel and a couple of pound on the value of your house then the last 10, 20, 30 years will vanish from your memory banks like they never happened and hey presto they are back in power. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Seeker 3,048 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think he's great, this should finally finish Labours chances of getting back in power at least for a decade or so. He's like a modern day Micheal Foot. Truther I agree the people we elect should be done so on what the majority of the voters want. If that was the case we would have had a few dozen UKIP MP's now. I'm not sure about your view of the majority voters dictating policy. Like it or not we need leaders to make the tough decisions, take for example the 2nd world war, we needed a strong leader to stand up to Hitler and thank goodness we did. In that example if the public were asked should we go to war I'm quite sure the vote would have been no especially so soon after the devastation of WW1, and who knows what the outcome would have been. Poorer people are going to want to vote for more social welfare and benefits and it stands to reason however someone's got to make the decisions where this money comes from. Is there a fairer system? I'm not sure at least we don't live in a communist state. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,832 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) It's my belief that to give the masses complete democratic power, (effectively referendums on ever law passed so as the majority always get what they want) would lead to complete and rapid deterioration of our country. The majority of people are not educated enough on political/economic/social issues or objective enough to be given that power. It'd be very dangerous, effectively making the entire electorate the government. We need politicians that can say "we know better than you lot and we're not afraid to do what's needed despite the social backlash"! Unfortunately with that level of political freedom/independence/power will come corruption. I wouldn't want what some people call 'true democracy'. Edited August 21, 2015 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,206 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 The whole lots a numbers game and the only importance Joe public has is providing the numbers, the ECB has just lent Greece 23.5 billion Euro so that it can pay back 3.5 billion euro falling due........yes that's right, they have lent them money to pay back the money they lent them !!! The Greek people are the ones in hock and the fruits of their labours are what will pay it !! That is exactly the same in every country in the world. So they will say what they need too and no one will have the balls to risk their own little credit card fuelled bubble bursting and so it will continue. May 5th proved it. I agree that government by referendum is a bad idea but what's a very good idea is that the established order get seriously thinned out and that people ruthlessly take an axe to any politicians not governing in the people's very best interest. The weak link unfortunately is people themselves 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Like i said...........people don't want true democracy...........lets stay within the existing framework for another hundred years and change nothing? Seeker....BH..........I know you don't believe it, but the whole political system we have is a scam...........run by the puppets of the rich for the rich..........hows that anything to do with democracy?..........I very much doubt it could turn into a free for all.........the vast majority work and pay tax.........we all have to contribute to bring about a decent society to live in.............run properly the scroungers/wasters wouldn't have any say in it anyway..............there would be jobs for every fit able person...........don't want to contribute? easy..........f***ing starve.... It sounds like you're both happy living the lie?..............maybe in time even the truly brainwashed will see the light..........who knows Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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