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Cheers mate won't be a bad thing if your right means I can have ago with them next season won't be off of here asking questions lol.... Is there any good bird forums to join?

Brithish Birds In Aviculture.....B.B.I,A. :thumbs: ,there's a few others but they pretty much have the same members really..

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Taz off here told me the best way of sexing the Goldies is something to do with the brown underneath the wing i forget exactly what it was now but i remember him saying the red going past the eye isnt always reliable......ask him he,s a knowledgeable chap.

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The 3rd pic down Gnasher shows the wing butts(the leading edge into flight or the like the bicep on us)these are very brown feathered on a hen and like this on a cock,mostly black with a bit of brown in it and your right a well marked hen or a poorly marked cock can confuse matters :yes::laugh: .There is also the nose hairs to go on and they are again black on a cock and brown on a hen,head shape and the look will come with experiance in telling sexes and it's pleasing when you suprise yourself sometimes with just looking and knowing what sex a bird is :victory: ..

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