Undervalued To Their Host Country?

[WILF 47,588]

Ahh....now benefits is something different IMHO.

Let me tell you now, benefits are a piss in the ocean money wise.....it cost dosnt effect anyone's day to day life at all.

If they stopped them all tomorrow no one would be a penny better off next week.

 

Your not "the good guy" for not being on benefits or "the bad guy" for being on them......this is a myth perpetrated by "them"

If anything I would say it's those of us not on any benefit that are the bloody fools........see, IMHO the government can't have it all ways round, they can't just rinse people for every last dime and still expect them to take nothing back where and when they can......it's hypocritical in The extreme !!

 

If you want people to stand on their own two feet then stop councils, parking wardens, tax men, utility companies, congestion charging people and all the myriad other agency's helping themselves to people's hard earned money !!

 

Only then can you rightfully expect people to look after themselves and only then can you frown on people who get benefit when they are fit and healthy.

These MPs are helping themselves out of the pot to the tune if millions, so is Europe and that's billions.......they are the Real benefit scroungers !!

[BGD 6,436]

Ahh....now benefits is something different IMHO.

Let me tell you now, benefits are a piss in the ocean money wise.....it cost dosnt effect anyone's day to day life at all.

If they stopped them all tomorrow no one would be a penny better off next week.

 

Your not "the good guy" for not being on benefits or "the bad guy" for being on them......this is a myth perpetrated by "them"

If anything I would say it's those of us not on any benefit that are the bloody fools........see, IMHO the government can't have it all ways round, they can't just rinse people for every last dime and still expect them to take nothing back where and when they can......it's hypocritical in The extreme !!

 

If you want people to stand on their own two feet then stop councils, parking wardens, tax men, utility companies, congestion charging people and all the myriad other agency's helping themselves to people's hard earned money !!

 

Only then can you rightfully expect people to look after themselves and only then can you frown on people who get benefit when they are fit and healthy.

These MPs are helping themselves out of the pot to the tune if millions, so is Europe and that's billions.......they are the Real benefit scroungers !!

 

It's starting to worry me how much I agree with you WILF

 

The biggest con in recent years was demonising benefit claimants while ignoring the much bigger MPs expenses bill etc etc, turning the working classes against eachother so they're too busy fighting amongst themselves to notice the elite bending them over

[Lloyd90 509]

Ahh....now benefits is something different IMHO.

Let me tell you now, benefits are a piss in the ocean money wise.....it cost dosnt effect anyone's day to day life at all.

If they stopped them all tomorrow no one would be a penny better off next week.

 

Your not "the good guy" for not being on benefits or "the bad guy" for being on them......this is a myth perpetrated by "them"

If anything I would say it's those of us not on any benefit that are the bloody fools........see, IMHO the government can't have it all ways round, they can't just rinse people for every last dime and still expect them to take nothing back where and when they can......it's hypocritical in The extreme !!

 

If you want people to stand on their own two feet then stop councils, parking wardens, tax men, utility companies, congestion charging people and all the myriad other agency's helping themselves to people's hard earned money !!

 

Only then can you rightfully expect people to look after themselves and only then can you frown on people who get benefit when they are fit and healthy.

These MPs are helping themselves out of the pot to the tune if millions, so is Europe and that's billions.......they are the Real benefit scroungers !!

 

 

Ai but you can't tell me it don't create resentment between middle and working (OR non-working) class. People openly bragging about how much they having for doing feck all whilst others are working for what they got.

 

If I was paying 50% tax and everyday I walked past the pub, with the same people having a piss up, bragging about how much benefits they get, I'd be looking to avoid paying taxes as well as why should we be paying for the c**ts lol!

 

Its a lot of both! People need to stop being taxed and having so much money robbed off em, and stop having hand out. If you didn't pay so much tax and kept what you earned, whilst minimum hand outs were about, be a much higher incentive to work.

 

A lot of people have more ££ not working than they could ever earn in a job. That just aint right. And I agree it don't excuse the fiddling c**ts stealing money on their expenses an all that. Should have a better form of punishment for the ones caught, but we all know they won't cos they're all at it. Just look at the f***ing pedo inquiry, they couldn't find anyone to do it cos they're all f***ing involved!!!!

[jacknife 2,005]

It causes resentment....l hate the fact that i have worked hard since I was 16 to build a business just to see the tax i pay wasted

 

Its no good saying don't get yourself concerned with scroungers' look at the big companies not paying their fare share

 

There all problems that need sorted but theres a part of me that thinks which one would be missed from society

 

The big employer or the scrounger

[WILF 47,588]

I understand lads, I really do but truthfully......if they got rid of all the people on benefits tomorrow do you think you would see you tax bill drop by a single penny?

I dont think you would, which rather makes a bollocks out of the "scroungers on benefits" line of attack because it makes no difference to you......and if it makes no difference them there's f**k all to get wound up about, ya get me

[jacknife 2,005]

I'm sure it wouldn't affect the amount of tax paid

 

I just begrudge any money going to home bred and foreign scroungers

 

I would prefer the money to be better spent

[neems 2,406]

I'm sure it wouldn't affect the amount of tax paid

 

I just begrudge any money going to home bred and foreign scroungers

 

I would prefer the money to be better spent

 

I'd prefer the money was burned.

 

I'd rather we lived simpler lives like they do in some other European countries than lose our country and identity.

[jonah. 775]

 

I'm sure it wouldn't affect the amount of tax paid

I just begrudge any money going to home bred and foreign scroungers

I would prefer the money to be better spent

 

I'd prefer the money was burned.

 

I'd rather we lived simpler lives like they do in some other European countries than lose our country and identity.

But that would involve turning off the TV, getting off your arse and putting some thought and effort into life....what's the point in that?

Much easier to day dream and live your life comfortably numb.

[WILF 47,588]

 

I'm sure it wouldn't affect the amount of tax paid

I just begrudge any money going to home bred and foreign scroungers

I would prefer the money to be better spent

 

I'd prefer the money was burned.

 

I'd rather we lived simpler lives like they do in some other European countries than lose our country and identity.

Spot f***ing on Neems.....well said.

[nans pat 2,575]

benifits used to be good here few yrs back when you could sign both sides of the border,then do a few wee homers ,they clamped down a good bit now all the fxxking about with forms an that,,the first immigrints thought they were in heaven when they tippled how to go about it,lol

[shepp 2,285]

I think anybody fiddling the benefits system should be

Ahh....now benefits is something different IMHO.

Let me tell you now, benefits are a piss in the ocean money wise.....it cost dosnt effect anyone's day to day life at all.

If they stopped them all tomorrow no one would be a penny better off next week.

Your not "the good guy" for not being on benefits or "the bad guy" for being on them......this is a myth perpetrated by "them"

If anything I would say it's those of us not on any benefit that are the bloody fools........see, IMHO the government can't have it all ways round, they can't just rinse people for every last dime and still expect them to take nothing back where and when they can......it's hypocritical in The extreme !!

If you want people to stand on their own two feet then stop councils, parking wardens, tax men, utility companies, congestion charging people and all the myriad other agency's helping themselves to people's hard earned money !!

Only then can you rightfully expect people to look after themselves and only then can you frown on people who get benefit when they are fit and healthy.

These MPs are helping themselves out of the pot to the tune if millions, so is Europe and that's billions.......they are the Real benefit scroungers !!

Just because one thing is wrong, does not detract from something else being wrong.

Fit and healthy people leeching off the working tax payers are scum, plain and simple.

If you want to live in a country with no infrastructure or services then there are plenty to choose from in Africa.

[jonah. 775]

benifits used to be good here few yrs back when you could sign both sides of the border,then do a few wee homers ,they clamped down a good bit now all the fxxking about with forms an that,,the first immigrints thought they were in heaven when they tippled how to go about it,lol

 

And that's exactly why the system will never work, always a way to get round it and fook it up, for people that have paid in,then they have to jump through hoops to get it when they REALLY need it .

[WILF 47,588]

As you wish Shepp, if that's what you believe then fair enough.

 

Personally I have a problem getting raped........especial when the rapist is trying to convince me some other c**t is pushing his arse in and out

 

Let me give you a little example.....I have just had to buy my two daughters school books for starting secondary school......it cost me around 700 euro ........that will last them for the next 3 or 4 years.

 

My version of council tax is 100 euro a year !!........not the £1500.00 a year I was paying in England.

 

Now the story sold to us is that my £1500 EVERY year was paying for my kids school stuff, my rubbish, the police and fire brigade.

 

But now, I'm 700 euro and the 2 kids are sorted for 3 years !!!

 

The police will come if I phone them......so will the fire brigade......I sort my own rubbish so I dont create as much now and that's buttons........the verge gets trimmed and the roads get patched up.......and that's 100 euro a year

 

So tell me, where the f**k are our local councils in England getting £1500.00 a year from?!.......and what's more, what are they spending all the f***ing change on??

 

When Iceland's banks went skint UK councils had billions stashed away in them!!......cheeky c**ts ain't entitled to have change to stash away, it's your f***ing money !!

 

So, no, you won't catch me buying into this "benefit scroungers " nonsense......they ain't stashing their benefit money away in Icelandic banks, they are spending it local to where they live.

Smoke and f***ing mirrors!!

Edited August 12, 2015 by WILF

[neems 2,406]

The point isn't the money itself,it's that it breeds an entitled attitude and laziness into some people.

 

Which perpetuates the 'British people won't clean toilets etc' rhetoric which justifies immigration to some,it's starting to become a self fulfilling prophecy.

[WILF 47,588]

The government have an entitlement attitude so naturally this flows down to the people......and why wouldn't it

Why should the ones at the bottom of society feel bad about taking money for nothing when those at the top clearly don't .......as far as I can see, the only argument is where people apportion the blame