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[green dragon 701]

I have thort about Neil what I was think if I go out a cupple of time without the dog and simply was how to use the lamp and how my mate control s his dog whenever hunting and we will see how it goes

[jeemes 4,492]

The danger with some pups is too much is done too soon through enthusiasm of the owner..I would allow the pup to have a lot of mooching about and play...no drill training. If its a big type dont overdo exercise and remember bones dont set until 15 months. Your pup should be just right to start next season for work. Another good book is "The lurcher, training and hunting* by Frank Sheardown.

 

ps You dont need another dog to start your pup lamping but it will start quicker when it sees another doing ,because it will look at the other dog running and then see the bunny and want to chase.The pup needs to be on a slip whilst the experienced dog is running and only run the pup on its own. Letting it run with an older dog will destroy its confidence. When we used to catch Fox we would let the pup go once the older dog had dealt with it and let the pup worry a bit.

[neil cooney 10,416]

I have thort about Neil what I was think if I go out a cupple of time without the dog and simply was how to use the lamp and how my mate control s his dog whenever hunting and we will see how it goes

Absolutely. If your mate is a good man with a lamp and dog then why not spend this whole Winter carrying his rabbits.

It will sharpen up your own reflexes and mind and you'll make up your own mind over the Winter on how you'd do things.

But if you start your pup up next year with another man with his dog your youngster mightn't just have the rabbits and yourself in mind.

It mightn't retrieve back to you knowing that another dog is nearby and it mightn't even come back to you.

Personally I think lamping lurchers need to know the daytime habits of a rabbit before running them at night. There's nothing worse than going into the first field with the first flick of the lamp showing the dog there's plenty of rabbits, first slip, rabbit's lost and the dog hunts the whole field in the dark eventually coming back with sides heaving and it's home you go.

It's little steps at first and one or two in the bag will make your pup feel like a champion. Bring it out with another seasoned worker and you could end up doing a hard nights lamping with your youngster, it's human nature.

Regarding retrieving. IMO if it's completely polished before you take your pup out it will result in live rabbits to hand when you do take it out.

Another dog present will result in jealousy, not with all dogs but with some.

I had a first cross pit dog X greyhound who'd put a rabbit in your hand completely untouched and a few minutes later would kill a fox and a few minutes after that put another unmarked rabbit in your hand. And I mean IN your hand.

[jeemes 4,492]

Not much fun lamping on your own if you have a good mate to go with. Ive lamped plenty on my own but the sports much better with a mate and while one dogs running the other is resting from his last run,and things keep moving along. Pups do silly things and hunt up and carry rabbits round in circles but thats just pups and mates dont worry about it. Ive been out with lads who are used to lamping on there own and there dogs have come to expect to run every rabbit and have opened up at the sight of another dog chasing because of jealousy. A pup needs to learn manners and that a run is a privilege and not a right.You will be in company sometime and you want your dog to behave when other dogs are around. Also when your young pup pulls off a spectacular catch one night you will want someone to witness it,and have the crac with on the way home.

[trenchfoot 4,243]

Not much fun lamping on your own if you have a good mate to go with. Ive lamped plenty on my own but the sports much better with a mate and while one dogs running the other is resting from his last run,and things keep moving along. Pups do silly things and hunt up and carry rabbits round in circles but thats just pups and mates dont worry about it. Ive been out with lads who are used to lamping on there own and there dogs have come to expect to run every rabbit and have opened up at the sight of another dog chasing because of jealousy. A pup needs to learn manners and that a run is a privilege and not a right.You will be in company sometime and you want your dog to behave when other dogs are around. Also when your young pup pulls off a spectacular catch one night you will want someone to witness it,and have the crac with on the way home.

 

if I wanted company, I'd stay at home. Good criac? Just the same

[neil cooney 10,416]

Everyone to there own but when I used to do a lot of lamping it wasn't about having witnesses to any good bags. It was about me and my dog being in tune together.

I used to work them loose and I'd like to think I had my dogs fit enough that they didn't need another dog to give them a break.

[shaaark 10,907]

 

Not much fun lamping on your own if you have a good mate to go with. Ive lamped plenty on my own but the sports much better with a mate and while one dogs running the other is resting from his last run,and things keep moving along. Pups do silly things and hunt up and carry rabbits round in circles but thats just pups and mates dont worry about it. Ive been out with lads who are used to lamping on there own and there dogs have come to expect to run every rabbit and have opened up at the sight of another dog chasing because of jealousy. A pup needs to learn manners and that a run is a privilege and not a right.You will be in company sometime and you want your dog to behave when other dogs are around. Also when your young pup pulls off a spectacular catch one night you will want someone to witness it,and have the crac with on the way home.

if I wanted company, I'd stay at home. Good criac? Just the same

 

Yep, being an unsociable cnut has far more positives than negatives when it comes to lurchers

[morton 5,368]

Everyone to there own but when I used to do a lot of lamping it wasn't about having witnesses to any good bags. It was about me and my dog being in tune together.

I used to work them loose and I'd like to think I had my dogs fit enough that they didn't need another dog to give them a break.

I lamped to work the dog,the dog i often bred,trained,educated and entered.It never entered my mind that i may have had the need or justification to want a witness to the nights activity,why?,fecking ego,s.Ive often lamped in company and taken turns on the slips,nothing to do with much but a little company,ribaldry and the craic.

[neil cooney 10,416]

Morton, my post was aimed at Jeemes need to lamp in front of his mates.

[morton 5,368]

Morton, my post was aimed at Jeemes need to lamp in front of his mates.

My post was aimed at agreement with you .

[J Darcy 5,871]

I reckon I've always done 90% of my lamping on my own.

Often I might want to set the alarm for 3 am to get a couple of hours in when the times just right. But who's keen enough these days? Not too many I'll tell thee......

Best times are had when it's just you and your pooch.....

[shaaark 10,907]

I reckon I've always done 90% of my lamping on my own.

Often I might want to set the alarm for 3 am to get a couple of hours in when the times just right. But who's keen enough these days? Not too many I'll tell thee......

Best times are had when it's just you and your pooch.....

And as has been said, and should be instilled into the majority of newcomers to lamping, f**k trying to impress anyfucker, or doing it to boost ego's, get out on your own with the one dog and do it properly, bollocks to impressing anyone, or feeling the need to brag/boast etc. Just my views, but what the f**k do I know?! Lol

[morton 5,368]

I reckon I've always done 90% of my lamping on my own.

Often I might want to set the alarm for 3 am to get a couple of hours in when the times just right. But who's keen enough these days? Not too many I'll tell thee......

Best times are had when it's just you and your pooch.....

It was always that way,allegedly?.

[jeemes 4,492]

One man and his dog bullshitting has never been easier.

[J Darcy 5,871]

I think it is also worth bearing in mind to disregard numbers. For newcomers at least. If i catch one rabbit with a pup then I'm going home on a high note. There's no rush. just build it up and enjoy lamping for what it is; FUN.