jcm 2,327 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Right lads took the pup out lamping last night, first time on the lamp he was running very well and caught 5 rabbits out of 7 runs he had which is pretty good for first time on the lamp but once he turned the rabbit and it made a little gap on him he would bark his head off until he got back on its arse and it was an intense bark. Basically I'm looking for advice or reassurance as I have never had a dog well not so much yap but an all out bark when running so has any one got any input on this or been in the same situation? Tbh it spoiled the night for me and really frustrated me as you can imagine we all want the best from our dogs Thanks in advance Quote Link to post
nothernlite 18,077 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Dogs no fit 4 Quote Link to post
richie1984 191 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Frustrated because it's getting tired. 1 Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 I had one what did the same never stopped it keep it in for a while get it much fitter it may stop 1 Quote Link to post
Gaz_1989 9,539 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 To be fair he looked like a Labrador last time you posted a pic. Not saying it's a bad thing. My pup is fat as butter just now, but I won't be taking her lamping just yet. I would put him away for a couple of months, do some bike work and try again. He might always do it when he's frustrated, but he might stop. I've seen both happen. My brindle bitch would yap if she was doubled up, out daytime mooching for example, when she was 7-8 months old. But it was only when another dog was in front. I waited till she was 11-12 months old before letting her run with another dog again and it was a different story then. 2 Quote Link to post
jcm 2,327 Posted August 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 I wouldn't say the dog was over weight and as far as I know is not injured he is just shy of 15 month old and I thought he was ready to run. Maybe he is not mentally ready to run but physically he is more than ready I wasn't giving him hard runs either and was picking his runs giving him the best chance and like I say he was running really well accounting for 5 out of his 7 runs. As you can imagine is really frustrateing and maybe my next step with him is to leave him off and try him in October or December. Quote Link to post
tb25 4,627 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Leave it another month Jordon mate.. Quote Link to post
the big chief 3,099 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Keep him in a month just get him so fit then hopefully it won't happen again nothing worse when that happens its a real pain in the arse Quote Link to post
jcm 2,327 Posted August 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Keep him in a month just get him so fit then hopefully it won't happen again nothing worse when that happens its a real pain in the arse Is a sickener pal especially the time and effort I put into him Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 How much prep have you given him before you took him out. Did he do it from the first run or on the last??? Maybe a little more info before we jump to conclusions Quote Link to post
jcm 2,327 Posted August 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 How much prep have you given him before you took him out. Did he do it from the first run or on the last??? Maybe a little more info before we jump to conclusions He done it from the first run he wouldn't make a sound running up to it just once he had put a turn in he would do it till he was back on its arse then when he was trying for a strike he never made a sound. From what I saw and heard it looked as if it was excitement or frustration but he was bouncing all night when my pal had a slip he was almost doing back flips on the slip leader Quote Link to post
paulsmithy83 567 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 For me i'd more so say he was not mentally ready. I would also take him on his own when re start. Dogs out together add more intense reactions from dogs. The added tension on lead waiting his turn to chase is building up and then on the pursuit it all coming to much. There only so much fitness you can do before work is only option to progress. I'd lamp him in larger fields. Get him right on top of them then slip as they lift. In big fields it gives him time to catch out in field and stay on turns of them. Alot come good once they start getting fur in there mouth. If he was more experienced and started yapping that would be more of a harder problem to solve imo 2 Quote Link to post
tote 854 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Is this the first time he's yapped/barked while chasing? Has he done much up until now? I would give it a couple of months off the game say until late Sept, keep it fit though, walking, bike work and ball work [retrieving]. When you do take it out again take it out by itself, just you and it. I have never seen the advantage of taking another dog out with a pup especially when it sounds as keen as yours [spinning about on end of lead as other dog's running]. The pup will only be getting frustrated watching the other dog run and I don't think it helps a pups retrieve one bit if another dogs on the scene. Remember there is no rush in getting a pup started, far better to give it a bit more time than to rush into it. Saying all that it might just be that the dogs a yapper, some are and it's got nowt to do with fitness, frustration or tiredness, if it's in it, it's in it as they say. 2 Quote Link to post
nighteyes 275 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 Imo once they start there's very little chance they will stop, you might find he'll do it less the more he sees but once it gets under pressure again and things ain't going he's way he'll open up , you can try holding him back, easy slips ,easy rabbits etc if mine I'd get him real fit and put plenty in front of him this season and see what happens , some can live with it some can't atb with him Quote Link to post
shaaark 10,714 Posted August 4, 2015 Report Share Posted August 4, 2015 For me i'd more so say he was not mentally ready. I would also take him on his own when re start. Dogs out together add more intense reactions from dogs. The added tension on lead waiting his turn to chase is building up and then on the pursuit it all coming to much. There only so much fitness you can do before work is only option to progress. I'd lamp him in larger fields. Get him right on top of them then slip as they lift. In big fields it gives him time to catch out in field and stay on turns of them. Alot come good once they start getting fur in there mouth. If he was more experienced and started yapping that would be more of a harder problem to solve imo Is this the first time he's yapped/barked while chasing? Has he done much up until now? I would give it a couple of months off the game say until late Sept, keep it fit though, walking, bike work and ball work [retrieving]. When you do take it out again take it out by itself, just you and it. I have never seen the advantage of taking another dog out with a pup especially when it sounds as keen as yours [spinning about on end of lead as other dog's running]. The pup will only be getting frustrated watching the other dog run and I don't think it helps a pups retrieve one bit if another dogs on the scene. Remember there is no rush in getting a pup started, far better to give it a bit more time than to rush into it. Saying all that it might just be that the dogs a yapper, some are and it's got nowt to do with fitness, frustration or tiredness, if it's in it, it's in it as they say. Quote Link to post
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