Tiercel 6,986 Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 up to afew years ago,every body was saying that the rabbits were becoming immune to mxy,but all of a sudden again there are diffrent strains of the disease appearing all over the country,now dont forget this is a manmade diseasemade by a french doctor in the early 1950s,so after all these years,how does i the virus still withstand severe winters and sub zero temperatues,i am still agreat believer that the disease virus is still being deliberately spread in certain areas,back about 7yrs ago ,myself and a mate caught 2 black rabbits with a ginger tinge to there coats just behind there ear and on a front paw,both thought they had been jabbed with something,shortly after place was decimated of rabbits,makes me wonder,then to cap it all another disease viral haemoragic hit the rabbits yet another man made disease,evil bstrds, Wrong!! Mixomatosis is a disease found naturally in south America, it was imported from there and tested in France, where some rabbits escaped and so the virus was spread. As a virus it has the ability to mutate exactly the same as the common cold virus. So that is how you get different strains of the virus. I believe there are over 40 different strains of the virus recorded. TC Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 up to afew years ago,every body was saying that the rabbits were becoming immune to mxy,but all of a sudden again there are diffrent strains of the disease appearing all over the country,now dont forget this is a manmade diseasemade by a french doctor in the early 1950s,so after all these years,how does i the virus still withstand severe winters and sub zero temperatues,i am still agreat believer that the disease virus is still being deliberately spread in certain areas,back about 7yrs ago ,myself and a mate caught 2 black rabbits with a ginger tinge to there coats just behind there ear and on a front paw,both thought they had been jabbed with something,shortly after place was decimated of rabbits,makes me wonder,then to cap it all another disease viral haemoragic hit the rabbits yet another man made disease,evil bstrds, Myxi is not a man made disease. Its a natural disease of the South American rabbit, an animal which interestingly also displays a level of immunity to the disease. European rabbits taken to South America lacked this immunity and died . This gave the boffins food for thought and ,yes, they did experiment with different strains and we all know the result. But, the spread of myxomatosis proved the old saying that "less is more". The first strains of the virus were simply too virulent and killed rabbits before they lived long enough to spread the disease. Milder strains were the answer though their use increased the chances of a few rabbits developing immunity . Also ,a disease that kills all its hosts is a failure. With no rabbits to live on the myxoma virus would also have died out. As the rabbits' immune systems work to prevent disease the Myxoma virus itself undergoes modifications in order to survive. The flu virus that strikes humans mutates in the same way and results in different strains hitting the population-usually at Christmas! . Over a long period a sort of crude,long-term balance,with casualties on both sides, develops between any successful disease and its hosts. As long as myxomatosis fails to kill-off all the rabbits both will be around for a long time . Which in biological terms makes for a success story for both myxomatosis and the rabbit! Apologies did not read your post first. TC Quote Link to post
Fly The Boy 339 Posted August 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Saw mixie rabbit side of the road yesterday,,,,,,,,,,road was to busy other than that I would have put him out of his misery,,,,,,,,,,,,,,farmers are spreading mixie all right farmer,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, went to farm for permission farmer said ye,,,,,,,,,then told me he had let out mixie rabbit he got off other farmer,,,,,,never went back,,,,,,,man that could do that can never be trusted,,,,,,,,,,,,,,evil cunnt............... 1 Quote Link to post
OldhamLad 66 Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Microbiologist Ferreter here! I do this for a job "settle down kids and sit down around the fire for an Oldham story about the wonder that is myxomatosis" Right mixy is a viral disease. Its main spread of infection is via Flea activity or via the tramission of bodily fluids from one animal too the next. Survival of the fittest is true in this case the rabbits with strong immune systems will be able to fend of the viral infection and survive the week immune rabbits will die. The strong rabbits breed thus myxomatosis ceases to become a problem. The issue lies where new strains of the virus pop up and wipe out rabbit populations and the population has too start again. Likewise as one or two have pointed out farmers do not admit this but i can almost guarantee that some gamekeepers farmers have some old stock of myxomatosis poison stored away to release. Other issues that affect rabbit stocks in relation too myxomatosis is damp wet cold conditions the cold temperatures make ot difficult for normally heathy rabbits fight of infection. Any other nigly questions like this just drop me a message! 1 Quote Link to post
Jamie m 668 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Was first released on an estate in Sussex prior to the government giving it the go ahead by which time it was to late , Quote Link to post
mhopton 807 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Microbiologist Ferreter here! I do this for a job "settle down kids and sit down around the fire for an Oldham story about the wonder that is myxomatosis" Right mixy is a viral disease. Its main spread of infection is via Flea activity or via the tramission of bodily fluids from one animal too the next. Survival of the fittest is true in this case the rabbits with strong immune systems will be able to fend of the viral infection and survive the week immune rabbits will die. The strong rabbits breed thus myxomatosis ceases to become a problem. The issue lies where new strains of the virus pop up and wipe out rabbit populations and the population has too start again. Likewise as one or two have pointed out farmers do not admit this but i can almost guarantee that some gamekeepers farmers have some old stock of myxomatosis poison stored away to release. Other issues that affect rabbit stocks in relation too myxomatosis is damp wet cold conditions the cold temperatures make ot difficult for normally heathy rabbits fight of infection. Any other nigly questions like this just drop me a message! See I new I was right lol Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Microbiologist Ferreter here! I do this for a job "settle down kids and sit down around the fire for an Oldham story about the wonder that is myxomatosis" Right mixy is a viral disease. Its main spread of infection is via Flea activity or via the tramission of bodily fluids from one animal too the next. Survival of the fittest is true in this case the rabbits with strong immune systems will be able to fend of the viral infection and survive the week immune rabbits will die. The strong rabbits breed thus myxomatosis ceases to become a problem. The issue lies where new strains of the virus pop up and wipe out rabbit populations and the population has too start again. Likewise as one or two have pointed out farmers do not admit this but i can almost guarantee that some gamekeepers farmers have some old stock of myxomatosis poison stored away to release. Other issues that affect rabbit stocks in relation too myxomatosis is damp wet cold conditions the cold temperatures make ot difficult for normally heathy rabbits fight of infection. Any other nigly questions like this just drop me a message! Can you simplify how a viral disease is spread by myxomatosis poison? and how long does it last in store? Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 @ Leeview Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,042 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Lol,,,,like any other poison,,, in an old margarine pot, kept on a shelf next to the cymag tin.... 2 Quote Link to post
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Reason I gave up ferreting and rabbiting never was any decent rabbit numbers and seemed to just wipe huge numbers out lucky to see five rabbits around by me now Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Lol,,,,like any other poison,,, in an old margarine pot, kept on a shelf next to the cymag tin.... well aware of how to keep poison, dry and air tight usually in ostermilk tins, but oldhamlad says mixy is a viral disease and then gamekeepers farmers have old stock of mixy poison stored away to release. Hence my question Y.I.S Leeview 1 Quote Link to post
Tiercel 6,986 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Lol,,,,like any other poison,,, in an old margarine pot, kept on a shelf next to the cymag tin.... well aware of how to keep poison, dry and air tight usually in ostermilk tins, but oldhamlad says mixy is a viral disease and then gamekeepers farmers have old stock of mixy poison stored away to release. Hence my question Y.I.S Leeview I think there are more theories about Mixie than jack the ripper. In the uk the strains of mixie have been getting more virulent since the 1970's I am not sure now about the amount of different strains but in 1985 I think there were 128 different strains but that number varies from year to year. In Australia they actually study mixie and each strain has a coded number. I am not sure what attenuated means but I think it is like a vaccine.When rabbits were injected with an attenuated strain of mixie they also showed a tolerance to more virulent wild strains of the myxamo virus. http://www.publish.csiro.au/?act=view_file&file_id=WR9850407.pdf There is also another link I found about mixie in the UK will have to see if I can find it again. TC 2 Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,042 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Lol,,,,like any other poison,,, in an old margarine pot, kept on a shelf next to the cymag tin.... well aware of how to keep poison, dry and air tight usually in ostermilk tins, but oldhamlad says mixy is a viral disease and then gamekeepers farmers have old stock of mixy poison stored away to release.Hence my question Y.I.S Leeview I was being sarcastic mate,,tongue in cheek ,,,,although I might be the only one that finds my jokes funny,,lol 1 Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 I don't think it's myxi we've got to worry about these days....it's something else that is flattening the bunnies. IMO Quote Link to post
Fly The Boy 339 Posted August 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 Got few rabbit in a spot last year and they were really skin and bone days from dying,,,,,,,,,through them in a hole,,,,,first thought V.D,,,don't know much about the disease but where the fuuck did this come from,,,,,,,,rabbits looked ok till ye handled them pure bone,,,,,,,,,opened a rabbit up black liver,,,,,,only ever eat the odd rabbit but fuuck that eating no more............ Quote Link to post
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