Bible Questions For Francie And Anyone Else With An Opinion

[Truther 1,579]

 

 

No, not quite truther. I can follow your logic, but only so far. You're missing the vital component - The Holy Spirit - If the Holy Spirit's divine guidance was there during writing, you can be sure He was there during the compilation!

 

If mans agenda was evident in the scriptures then I could sympathise with your disposition, but God's agenda is undeniable. It's theme speaks of salvation from God, not service to man. It commands to "give preference to one another" and to "treat others how you would want to treated" not to bow to the hierarchies. "Test all things"! Not accept all things.

 

We have a book that covers all things with divine authority, from Origins to eternity and everything in between including morals, ethics and economics. Is it any wonder we believe it's form God?? Our jurisdiction was built on it! Look at the mess we're in now that we are abandoning it.

 

Of course we believe it's fact, the assurance you receive at the time of salvation affirms that. On the contrary, what does your disposition offer? Essentially "we don't know" but we're confident we'll find out. Well, maybe some already have.

 

I've seen the hardest of hearts melted, the cruelest of minds cured - Jesus changes lives in a way nothing else comes close.

"No, not quite truther. I can follow your logic, but only so far. You're missing the vital component - The Holy Spirit - If the Holy Spirit's divine guidance was there during writing, you can be sure He was there during the compilation!"

 

If there's no "god" how can there be "the holy spirit" ? again its just your opinion, it means absolutely nothing, all you can do is offer an "opinion" however its dressed up to look like facts.

 

You can't see the "agenda of men" in the bible..........you got it bad don't you FM?

 

"Of course we believe it's fact, the assurance you receive at the time of salvation affirms that. On the contrary, what does your disposition offer? Essentially "we don't know" but we're confident we'll find out. Well, maybe some already have."

 

There you go again FM, you believe its fact, then the "assurance you receive at salvation" what assurance? you mean the imagined enlightenment in your head, these aren't real things FM........you keep insisting on bringing opinions into the debate, they mean nothing and add no weight to your argument.

And your opinions mean something?? Ha "means nothing"? That's your view - like I said "I've seen lives changed" my life changed and that speaks more to me than any bigoted views like yours.

 

You wouldn't know anything of the assurance I speak of as you have no interest in it?!? It's something you know next to nothing about, wise to refrain from ridiculing. Got it bad? Don't know what you mean. I do know I have a greater understanding of the good book than you do and so I can tell you with little doubt what the agenda is - and it's not that of men

 

Now Truther, defend your disposition? What is it you believe and why??

 

 

My opinions are my opinions based on how i see things myself.........i'm not trying to put my views on other people, unlike some. I've said before "i just don't know" so technically i'm agnostic........but if there is some creator i seriously doubt it's your particular god, or any other i've heard of?

 

I don't dispute finding god can help people, seen that myself, but there's lots of hypocrisy in organised religion, but i'm not saying that's everybody who believes............on the same hand i've seen people change after a really good hiding........but i'm not going to become a" 7th day GBH ist" either, if you need a "god" to know right from wrong you're a nut job, simple as that.

 

What do i believe? Good question.............not sure really............i believe you should treat people the way you want to be treat, i'm not big on killing other people, although there's exceptions to the rule obviously, look after your family/friends........now i'm getting older i realise i'm not always in the right, so best to give anything more thought............all in all pretty christian type beliefs, but just because i think that's how you should conduct yourself, not to please some imaginary friend.

[charlie caller 3,654]

 

And I suppose you are going to come out with some startling new evidence to prove virgins have babies are you, or perhaps walking on water is possible? Really how anyone can be taken in by such hogwash is beyond me, but then to be fair that is what Christianity teaches,BLIND FAITH, and not to question anything, as to do so is blasphemy,I genuinely wish you well, and if belief in some imposter religion from overseas gives you comfort, then fair play, I will stick with the original beliefs of my own race, but good luck, all the same

So come on let's here it, what's your races, original beleif, your words.

 

Let's discuss something else for a change.

 

Ok a little clue for you, what are most of the days of the week named after? You guessed it the original Englisc Germanic gods.

[mushroom 13,194]

Actually Friday and Thursday are Norse

[johnny boy68 11,726]

Actually Friday and Thursday are Norse

He did say mist days.lol

[walshie 2,804]

 

Actually Friday and Thursday are Norse

He did say mist days.lol

 

 

He didn't.

 

And Saturday's Roman.

[mushroom 13,194]

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

 

And I suppose you are going to come out with some startling new evidence to prove virgins have babies are you, or perhaps walking on water is possible? Really how anyone can be taken in by such hogwash is beyond me, but then to be fair that is what Christianity teaches,BLIND FAITH, and not to question anything, as to do so is blasphemy,I genuinely wish you well, and if belief in some imposter religion from overseas gives you comfort, then fair play, I will stick with the original beliefs of my own race, but good luck, all the same

So come on let's here it, what's your races, original beleif, your words.

 

Let's discuss something else for a change.

Ok a little clue for you, what are most of the days of the week named after? You guessed it the original Englisc Germanic gods.

I don't want to play games mate, why don't you just come out an say, me an a few others have been honest so why can't you,

[johnny boy68 11,726]

 

 

 

Actually Friday and Thursday are Norse

He did say mist days.lol

He didn't.

 

And Saturday's Roman.

It's that feckin Jims fault lol

[Bo Duke 420]

It doesn't bother me when people want to believe in religion and I would defend a persons right to free speech and free beliefs but it should stay at home or between groups of like minded folks and I don't mean they should be hidden away as dirty little secrets either by all means have your churches, meetings and your sing songs etc etc religion and its leaders should not be making decisions in parliament we should live in a secular state and there should be no tax exemptions for the church.

 

When it comes to stem cells, contraception, blood transfusions and medical progress in general we need to approach these matters from a factual scientific angle using logic and reason not choosing one of the many books written in a time when the world was a very different place.

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

 

And I suppose you are going to come out with some startling new evidence to prove virgins have babies are you, or perhaps walking on water is possible? Really how anyone can be taken in by such hogwash is beyond me, but then to be fair that is what Christianity teaches,BLIND FAITH, and not to question anything, as to do so is blasphemy,I genuinely wish you well, and if belief in some imposter religion from overseas gives you comfort, then fair play, I will stick with the original beliefs of my own race, but good luck, all the same

So come on let's here it, what's your races, original beleif, your words.

 

Let's discuss something else for a change.

Ok a little clue for you, what are most of the days of the week named after? You guessed it the original Englisc Germanic gods.

OK so I'm guessing your a pagan, ffs, so you beleive in Thor, Hercules etc all these Gods; f the afterlife, an you've the cheek to slag Christians, when you beleive in multiple Gods, with human sacrifice daily, an your saying the bible is false lol

[Francie 6,368]

 

 

 

 

No, not quite truther. I can follow your logic, but only so far. You're missing the vital component - The Holy Spirit - If the Holy Spirit's divine guidance was there during writing, you can be sure He was there during the compilation!

 

If mans agenda was evident in the scriptures then I could sympathise with your disposition, but God's agenda is undeniable. It's theme speaks of salvation from God, not service to man. It commands to "give preference to one another" and to "treat others how you would want to treated" not to bow to the hierarchies. "Test all things"! Not accept all things.

 

We have a book that covers all things with divine authority, from Origins to eternity and everything in between including morals, ethics and economics. Is it any wonder we believe it's form God?? Our jurisdiction was built on it! Look at the mess we're in now that we are abandoning it.

 

Of course we believe it's fact, the assurance you receive at the time of salvation affirms that. On the contrary, what does your disposition offer? Essentially "we don't know" but we're confident we'll find out. Well, maybe some already have.

 

I've seen the hardest of hearts melted, the cruelest of minds cured - Jesus changes lives in a way nothing else comes close.

"No, not quite truther. I can follow your logic, but only so far. You're missing the vital component - The Holy Spirit - If the Holy Spirit's divine guidance was there during writing, you can be sure He was there during the compilation!"

 

If there's no "god" how can there be "the holy spirit" ? again its just your opinion, it means absolutely nothing, all you can do is offer an "opinion" however its dressed up to look like facts.

 

You can't see the "agenda of men" in the bible..........you got it bad don't you FM?

 

"Of course we believe it's fact, the assurance you receive at the time of salvation affirms that. On the contrary, what does your disposition offer? Essentially "we don't know" but we're confident we'll find out. Well, maybe some already have."

 

There you go again FM, you believe its fact, then the "assurance you receive at salvation" what assurance? you mean the imagined enlightenment in your head, these aren't real things FM........you keep insisting on bringing opinions into the debate, they mean nothing and add no weight to your argument.

And your opinions mean something?? Ha "means nothing"? That's your view - like I said "I've seen lives changed" my life changed and that speaks more to me than any bigoted views like yours.

 

You wouldn't know anything of the assurance I speak of as you have no interest in it?!? It's something you know next to nothing about, wise to refrain from ridiculing. Got it bad? Don't know what you mean. I do know I have a greater understanding of the good book than you do and so I can tell you with little doubt what the agenda is - and it's not that of men

 

Now Truther, defend your disposition? What is it you believe and why??

My opinions are my opinions based on how i see things myself.........i'm not trying to put my views on other people, unlike some. I've said before "i just don't know" so technically i'm agnostic........but if there is some creator i seriously doubt it's your particular god, or any other i've heard of?

 

I don't dispute finding god can help people, seen that myself, but there's lots of hypocrisy in organised religion, but i'm not saying that's everybody who believes............on the same hand i've seen people change after a really good hiding........but i'm not going to become a" 7th day GBH ist" either, if you need a "god" to know right from wrong you're a nut job, simple as that.

 

What do i believe? Good question.............not sure really............i believe you should treat people the way you want to be treat, i'm not big on killing other people, although there's exceptions to the rule obviously, look after your family/friends........now i'm getting older i realise i'm not always in the right, so best to give anything more thought............all in all pretty christian type beliefs, but just because i think that's how you should conduct yourself, not to please some imaginary friend.

Little reading for you truther, Jesus existed, there's no doubt about it mate.

[Francie 6,368]

https://jamesbishopblog.wordpress.com/2015/01/08/36-reasons-why-scholars-know-jesus-really-existed/

[Rake aboot 4,936]

 

As I have said before. You are all wasting your time trying to discuss anything logical with a zealot.

 

 

Mentally not all there.

Yeah like your family, not very nice thing to say about your family, eh

 

Just shows what an ignorant little man you are.

 

 

You`re confusing ignorant with educated my friend.

 

And I know my family better than anyone and know the roots of there beliefs so I would hazard to call you ignorant for thinking you know about my family.

 

Little man.

[Francie 6,368]

Your quote rake, you said it not me.

 

You do all realise that god does not exist !

 

Anyone who truly believes cannot be the full shilling in my opinion. I was raised strict catholic, and have relatives in the service of christ as we speak, but still, it`s all bullshit innit.

[Rake aboot 4,936]

And ?

 

Whats your point ?