trenchfoot 4,243 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 i like the look of your little dog r/m she reminds me of my boys dog which has whippet/collie/beddy in her, these little dogs seem to be compact/strong little dogs with good feet and my boys is very bright. i,m moving nearer to my boy this year so hopefully i,ll do some ferreting with his little dog this season, roll on, cheers plum ! Plucky little dogs, Mines pushing 9 now, but starting to feel the knocks 4 Quote Link to post
tripletree 75 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 my mates 3/4 whippet collie he's pleased with it's progress about 7 months old now this its much younger 3 Quote Link to post
Rabbiting man 1,192 Posted July 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 Thought about getting a collie/whippet in the past but I decided id rather have a reverse bred collie/grey . Yours is a nice type rm I love Collie/Greyhound. The only thing I find is finding a really good working Greyhound than you do a Whippet. Shame really they are a good dog in the field if they been schooled right. do You really need to use a working greyhound though? Plenty of people make good dogs out of mutts from none working parents ... In my mind yes, you have a better chance of producing better working dogs. Quote Link to post
Neal 1,873 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 I had a collie x whippet many years ago and she was extremely agile and the most obedient dog I've ever had...not the most intelligent but definitely the most obedient if obedience is measured by "doing as you're told." Unfortunately she was also far and away the most sensitive. She was bred by a racing whippet breeder who wanted a sheepdog for her sheep but didn't like the idea of a pure collie. She was out of one of her 3/4 whippet 1/4 greyhounds (though there was a collie x greyhound several generations back on the whippet side too) and the sire was Hancock's Tory who was sired by Richard Jones (the beardie x border) out of a yellow eyed red collie called Katie. The two main things to consider, in my humble opinion, are that I've always found it odd that so many people would consider owning a pure whippet but not a pure greyhound yet would never dream of working a whippet cross over a greyhound cross. Also, the majority of the people who criticise them have never owned or seen one work. Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,524 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 The two main things to consider, in my humble opinion, are that I've always found it odd that so many people would consider owning a pure whippet but not a pure greyhound yet would never dream of working a whippet cross over a greyhound cross. Also, the majority of the people who criticise them have never owned or seen one work. Having owned a pure whippet and whippet bred lurchers I don't think I'll own another unless it was a whippet x grey. They aren't big enough or fast enough for the ground local to me. Quote Link to post
bird 9,969 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 The two main things to consider, in my humble opinion, are that I've always found it odd that so many people would consider owning a pure whippet but not a pure greyhound yet would never dream of working a whippet cross over a greyhound cross. Also, the majority of the people who criticise them have never owned or seen one work. Having owned a pure whippet and whippet bred lurchers I don't think I'll own another unless it was a whippet x grey. They aren't big enough or fast enough for the ground local to me. had a racing bred (none ped) whippet bitch 20in 20lb great little rabbit dog, some of the male dogs at the track went up to 36-37lb very fiery things you could see bit of staff in them, I liked them types of whippets . But I know what you mean with a whippet x grey , just that bit more bigger /tougher type , if you got one about 23in 40lb that be bang on for rabbits, plenty fast/agile enough , feck me my big 1x gsd xgrey Buck can spin fair few rabbits over, so 40-45 lb type whippetxgrey do it dead easy Quote Link to post
Neal 1,873 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 The two main things to consider, in my humble opinion, are that I've always found it odd that so many people would consider owning a pure whippet but not a pure greyhound yet would never dream of working a whippet cross over a greyhound cross. Also, the majority of the people who criticise them have never owned or seen one work. Having owned a pure whippet and whippet bred lurchers I don't think I'll own another unless it was a whippet x grey. They aren't big enough or fast enough for the ground local to me. had a racing bred (none ped) whippet bitch 20in 20lb great little rabbit dog, some of the male dogs at the track went up to 36-37lb very fiery things you could see bit of staff in them, I liked them types of whippets . But I know what you mean with a whippet x grey , just that bit more bigger /tougher type , if you got one about 23in 40lb that be bang on for rabbits, plenty fast/agile enough , feck me my big 1x gsd xgrey Buck can spin fair few rabbits over, so 40-45 lb type whippetxgrey do it dead easy Gnipper, were size and speed the only reasons for arriving at this decision or did you find them lacking in any other ways? I've always preferred the idea of working a whippet cross over a greyhound cross, partly because I prefer whippets but also because the land by me is tiny fields and thick woodland. Have to admit though that my brother has three pure whippet bitches and he can't praise them enough. To be honest, I don't have enough experience of either to have a qualified opinion...my previous post was aimed more at those doing the same as me but in reverse i.e. criticising collie/whippets just because they've heard them knocked in every book on the subject. 1 Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,524 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 The two main things to consider, in my humble opinion, are that I've always found it odd that so many people would consider owning a pure whippet but not a pure greyhound yet would never dream of working a whippet cross over a greyhound cross. Also, the majority of the people who criticise them have never owned or seen one work. Having owned a pure whippet and whippet bred lurchers I don't think I'll own another unless it was a whippet x grey. They aren't big enough or fast enough for the ground local to me. had a racing bred (none ped) whippet bitch 20in 20lb great little rabbit dog, some of the male dogs at the track went up to 36-37lb very fiery things you could see bit of staff in them, I liked them types of whippets . But I know what you mean with a whippet x grey , just that bit more bigger /tougher type , if you got one about 23in 40lb that be bang on for rabbits, plenty fast/agile enough , feck me my big 1x gsd xgrey Buck can spin fair few rabbits over, so 40-45 lb type whippetxgrey do it dead easy Gnipper, were size and speed the only reasons for arriving at this decision or did you find them lacking in any other ways? I've always preferred the idea of working a whippet cross over a greyhound cross, partly because I prefer whippets but also because the land by me is tiny fields and thick woodland.Have to admit though that my brother has three pure whippet bitches and he can't praise them enough. To be honest, I don't have enough experience of either to have a qualified opinion...my previous post was aimed more at those doing the same as me but in reverse i.e. criticising collie/whippets just because they've heard them knocked in every book on the subject. Pretty much mate yeah. The ground here is the same as altcar and the rabbits are jet propelled most of the time and I've not seen a dog under 22 not left behind. Quote Link to post
Phil Lloyd 10,738 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) The genuine first cross twixt a pure whippet and a Collie can be a disaster... It is imperative to use real good stock to produce what I would term ,..a starting point... As a young man, I was told that the ideal hybrids for ferreting, were Whippet Collies or Whippet Bedlingtons...Alas,..I have not found this to be a definitive statement,..in fact,..such a hybridization need to be carefully considered....However,..if the initial prototype shows promise and exhibits the best of both worlds ; the lightening fast reflexes of the whippet, combined with the tractability and sagacious demeanour of a good working cur,..well,..for me,.as a rabbiting enthusiast,..this purpose bred style of moucher's pal,.. is a worthwhile 'on going' project... I have never considered a first cross (of any kind) to be the end product... However,..in reality,..it can and should be,....the start of something good... Edited July 27, 2015 by Phil Lloyd 5 Quote Link to post
Tozer 385 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 I have kind of come to the conclusion that the first cross should be the grey, then if you want a smaller version put it back to a whippet for the most usefull lurchers. Each to there own and I'm not knocking it, but I would think a first cross whippet and anything other than a sighthound wouldn't be quick enough? Quote Link to post
nans pat 2,575 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 The two main things to consider, in my humble opinion, are that I've always found it odd that so many people would consider owning a pure whippet but not a pure greyhound yet would never dream of working a whippet cross over a greyhound cross. Also, the majority of the people who criticise them have never owned or seen one work. Having owned a pure whippet and whippet bred lurchers I don't think I'll own another unless it was a whippet x grey. They aren't big enough or fast enough for the ground local to me. ive a saluki lurcher,x whippet 27tts.fast as and can stay on you can get them, Quote Link to post
Tozer 385 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 The two main things to consider, in my humble opinion, are that I've always found it odd that so many people would consider owning a pure whippet but not a pure greyhound yet would never dream of working a whippet cross over a greyhound cross. Also, the majority of the people who criticise them have never owned or seen one work. Having owned a pure whippet and whippet bred lurchers I don't think I'll own another unless it was a whippet x grey. They aren't big enough or fast enough for the ground local to me. ive a saluki lurcher,x whippet 27tts.fast as and can stay on you can get them, But you have to be honest by making something half whippet you aren't trying to make a 27" lurcher Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,524 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 The two main things to consider, in my humble opinion, are that I've always found it odd that so many people would consider owning a pure whippet but not a pure greyhound yet would never dream of working a whippet cross over a greyhound cross. Also, the majority of the people who criticise them have never owned or seen one work. Having owned a pure whippet and whippet bred lurchers I don't think I'll own another unless it was a whippet x grey. They aren't big enough or fast enough for the ground local to me. ive a saluki lurcher,x whippet 27tts.fast as and can stay on you can get them, At 27 tts I'm not surprised it can shift and I bet there's not a single 18tts whippet or cross that is anywhere near as fast. 1 Quote Link to post
Rabbiting man 1,192 Posted July 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 The genuine first cross twixt a pure whippet and a Collie can be a disaster... It is imperative to use real good stock to produce what I would term ,..a starting point... As a young man, I was told that the ideal hybrids for ferreting, were Whippet Collies or Whippet Bedlingtons...Alas,..I have not found this to be a definitive statement,..in fact,..such a hybridization need to be carefully considered....However,..if the initial prototype shows promise and exhibits the best of both worlds ; the lightening fast reflexes of the whippet, combined with the tractability and sagacious demeanour of a good working cur,..well,..for me,.as a rabbiting enthusiast,..this purpose bred style of moucher's pal,.. is a worthwhile 'on going' project... I have never considered a first cross (of any kind) to be the end product... However,..in reality,..it can and should be,....the start of something good.. As a rabbit catcher myself having owned many Collie/Greyhounds in the past. Having this type lurcher I find she suits me she & the ground I work her on. She is my moucher's pal be it night or day time I love every minute of it. Which put me on the idea of breeding my own line for my self. They might not suit everybody but they suit me . Quote Link to post
nans pat 2,575 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 The two main things to consider, in my humble opinion, are that I've always found it odd that so many people would consider owning a pure whippet but not a pure greyhound yet would never dream of working a whippet cross over a greyhound cross. Also, the majority of the people who criticise them have never owned or seen one work. Having owned a pure whippet and whippet bred lurchers I don't think I'll own another unless it was a whippet x grey. They aren't big enough or fast enough for the ground local to me. ive a saluki lurcher,x whippet 27tts.fast as and can stay on you can get them, But you have to be honest by making something half whippet you aren't trying to make a 27" lurcher must just depend on luck.lol..that litter had 3 pups 2 dogs made 27 the bitch only 21tts.next litter shed 8 all like whippets bar 1 made 24 . Quote Link to post
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