What X?

[skycat 6,173]

There no know what a quine is lol

He did tell me

[skycat 6,173]

Wow Skycat that was deep! Lol

What would you suggest?

As Forest of Dean Redneck says: anything that comes from parents, and preferably grand parents as well, that is doing the job you want the dog to do.

[jeemes 4,484]

Blinkers are worn by horses to stop them noticing things on each side of the very narrow path they tread. Unfortunately, some humans seem to wear them as well, and they are usually put in place by similarly minded friends or a refusal to see the wider path.

Yes much better to have a wider scope to draw from,when your main interest is in writing books and articles for papers every week. I could hardly see your post for adverts. Some of us have drawn our honest opinions from 30+ years in dogs and will offer an opinion when asked for (see cargols post) It may be biased and narrow buts its mine and given for free...You didnt even bother to offer the lad an opinion,just jumped on the bandwagon trying to sound clever as usual....Your just a female Plummer love....full of it.

[BGD 6,436]

What are lads that run the same ground as you running and having success with? That's the logical place to start when thinking about your first lurcher

[skycat 6,173]

I did give an opinion: a pup from parents and preferably grandparents as well which are/were doing the same job he wants a dog to do. So sorry if I sounded as though I was trying to be clever: I was just trying to say that it isn't wise to disregard all the other types of lurchers out there in favour of just one sort. And the best lurchers I've had have had a right mixture of breeds in them, but they've been bred from dogs doing what I wanted mine to do.

 

It just irritates me when someone says that a particular cross is the ONLY lurcher that takes all quarry when there are plenty of dogs without any Bull in them that are doing the job.

[shaaark 10,852]

 

Blinkers are worn by horses to stop them noticing things on each side of the very narrow path they tread. Unfortunately, some humans seem to wear them as well, and they are usually put in place by similarly minded friends or a refusal to see the wider path.

Yes much better to have a wider scope to draw from,when your main interest is in writing books and articles for papers every week. I could hardly see your post for adverts. Some of us have drawn our honest opinions from 30+ years in dogs and will offer an opinion when asked for (see cargols post) It may be biased and narrow buts its mine and given for free...You didnt even bother to offer the lad an opinion,just jumped on the bandwagon trying to sound clever as usual....Your just a female Plummer love....full of it.

 

Are you having a bad day jeemes? I read alot of your posts, most of which make sense, although I don't necessarily agree with all that you write. I DON'T like bull x's, I mean proper bull x, not something with a 16th or an 8th bull blood, and to say they are the only x that can do 'everything' is f***ing absurd! And if I was to go after fox regularly, not digging or around a hole, but lamping etc, a bull x would definitley NOT be on my list of types to consider

[Wales1234 5,541]

 

 

 

 

Blinkers are worn by horses to stop them noticing things on each side of the very narrow path they tread. Unfortunately, some humans seem to wear them as well, and they are usually put in place by similarly minded friends or a refusal to see the wider path.

Yes much better to have a wider scope to draw from,when your main interest is in writing books and articles for papers every week. I could hardly see your post for adverts. Some of us have drawn our honest opinions from 30+ years in dogs and will offer an opinion when asked for (see cargols post) It may be biased and narrow buts its mine and given for free...You didnt even bother to offer the lad an opinion,just jumped on the bandwagon trying to sound clever as usual....Your just a female Plummer love....full of it.

Are you having a bad day jeemes? I read alot of your posts, most of which make sense, although I don't necessarily agree with all that you write. I DON'T like bull x's, I mean proper bull x, not something with a 16th or an 8th bull blood, and to say they are the only x that can do 'everything' is f***ing absurd! And if I was to go after fox regularly, not digging or around a hole, but lamping etc, a bull x would definitley NOT be on my list of types to consider

Nope nore mine mate !! Iv dug hunted the hill and landed foxes since a child and my bull x bitch has been outstanding for me but I'd not having another ! My collie xs are much more rounded bitches !! And I have been offered a pup from a many be litter of beddybullgreys x Pointergrey end of next year which depending how this Hancock shapes up I may take a pup from

[boyo 1,398]

Best "all rounder" ive ever seen was a gypsy bred dog my mate owned lurcher to lurcher bred with deerhound greyhound collie& bedlington in its make up 24" tts. Took everything back in the late 80's & cleverest dog ive ever seen hunt just knew where it had to be. Unfortunately he never sired any litters. Hope you find what your looking for & atb with pup when you do

[jeemes 4,484]

I did give an opinion: a pup from parents and preferably grandparents as well which are/were doing the same job he wants a dog to do. So sorry if I sounded as though I was trying to be clever: I was just trying to say that it isn't wise to disregard all the other types of lurchers out there in favour of just one sort. And the best lurchers I've had have had a right mixture of breeds in them, but they've been bred from dogs doing what I wanted mine to do.

 

It just irritates me when someone says that a particular cross is the ONLY lurcher that takes all quarry when there are plenty of dogs without any Bull in them that are doing the job.

It irritates you that my opinion is diffrent to yours..and doing what job btw?

Edited July 23, 2015 by jeemes

[jeemes 4,484]

 

 

Blinkers are worn by horses to stop them noticing things on each side of the very narrow path they tread. Unfortunately, some humans seem to wear them as well, and they are usually put in place by similarly minded friends or a refusal to see the wider path.

Yes much better to have a wider scope to draw from,when your main interest is in writing books and articles for papers every week. I could hardly see your post for adverts. Some of us have drawn our honest opinions from 30+ years in dogs and will offer an opinion when asked for (see cargols post) It may be biased and narrow buts its mine and given for free...You didnt even bother to offer the lad an opinion,just jumped on the bandwagon trying to sound clever as usual....Your just a female Plummer love....full of it.

 

Are you having a bad day jeemes? I read alot of your posts, most of which make sense, although I don't necessarily agree with all that you write. I DON'T like bull x's, I mean proper bull x, not something with a 16th or an 8th bull blood, and to say they are the only x that can do 'everything' is f***ing absurd! And if I was to go after fox regularly, not digging or around a hole, but lamping etc, a bull x would definitley NOT be on my list of types to consider

 

 

I did give an opinion: a pup from parents and preferably grandparents as well which are/were doing the same job he wants a dog to do. So sorry if I sounded as though I was trying to be clever: I was just trying to say that it isn't wise to disregard all the other types of lurchers out there in favour of just one sort. And the best lurchers I've had have had a right mixture of breeds in them, but they've been bred from dogs doing what I wanted mine to do.

 

It just irritates me when someone says that a particular cross is the ONLY lurcher that takes all quarry when there are plenty of dogs without any Bull in them that are doing the job.

I think its better to concentrate on something you like and breed carefully,which usually means you havnt time to mess with a diffrent type every other month of the year..but again this is only my opinion and and I dont say its law or that if you dont follow it you are stupid or blinkered in some way..but its what I think.

[skycat 6,173]

I couldn't agree more: there's no sense in keeping a dog if you don't like the type or it doesn't suit the way you do things, which is why I would never try and steer someone new to lurchers in any one direction. So much depends on how someone gets on with the mind set of a particular type of lurcher. I just prefer not to blind myself to the merits of any type, even if they aren't what I need in a lurcher. I don't need or want a straight bull cross, though some of mine have had bull in them. It's a minefield for anyone getting into lurchers for the first time.

[nothernlite 18,089]

Years ago never had all this confusion just got one local and made the best of it to much choice now with this Internet

[jeemes 4,484]

Anybody read that book "The last English poachers" it looks like it might be a good read,but I thought the two hounds on the front looked like pure Greyhounds.

[Flacko 1,747]

nl bang on years ago you only knew to dogs not to far wher you lived or met wher you run nowadays that much choice and people romancing certain breeds lads can get caught up in all the hype about this type and that type can confuse someone new to running dogs atb Flacko

[shaaark 10,852]

nl bang on years ago you only knew to dogs not to far wher you lived or met wher you run nowadays that much choice and people romancing certain breeds lads can get caught up in all the hype about this type and that type can confuse someone new to running dogs atb Flacko

I agree with that. Years ago you only had a few different traditional lurcher x's, collies of some sort, and terriers, beddies normally, and longdogs, deerhound/greyound or whippet/greyhound, and lurchers, lurcherwok and owners were better for it. Nowadays you've got gsd, dutch shepherds, malinois, salukis, airdales, wheatens, foxhound, pointer and not forgetting the BULL X!! And look at the shit that's been bred since these types have been around! I'm glad that these x's are now thankfully starting to get less popular, as people are realising that you won't really improve upon the tried and tested traditional types for most general types of lurcherwork.

Agree or not, but it's a fact that more and more people are going back to 'proper' lurchers. I'm expecting this to go down well with with owners of two types of certain x's!