Andrelivermore 0 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Sorry not sure if this is in the right place but ive recent shot about 8 pidgeons all in the chest with my black widow catapult but none of them have actually died. I know this sounds in humane but im i know im a good enough aim to kill a pidgeon so just cant see why they wont die? Iv tried using 8 mm steel balls and catseye marbles but dosent seem to kill, they just fly away. Seems to be a lack of power but iv seen other people hunting with black widows. i even cought one in the chest from about a meter away with a marble and it didnt die.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youcanthide...BANG 1,051 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Black widow bands are way too heavy for small and light amo like you are using. My suggestion is get a handmade catty with smaller tubes or single flatbeds and you should start dropping them. Widow bands suit 12mm + lead you won't get any speed with the small ammo. Chest shots aren't that good on pigeons. Head and crop shots is what you need 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chisler 90 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Nice bit of info their 'youcanthide' Chisler 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CushtyJook 1,097 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Pigeons have very strong chests , I've shot the chest area quite a few times with an air rifle and had them fly of , you need a head shot like said Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chisler 90 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Nah their just hard pigeons in kent 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Emitto 17 Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Like its been said, crop or head shots mate, unless you shootin 12mm+ leads. Cheers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrelivermore 0 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Ok thanks for the help, im getting one of johns gamekeeper cattapults, and going to cast up some of my own 12m lead balls that should do the trick. is 9.5/10 steel sufficient for double theraband gold? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whipbed 42 Posted July 26, 2015 Report Share Posted July 26, 2015 9.5 mm steel is a lot lighter than 12mm lead and will only need single tbg bands in the sizes that are usually advertised for sale i,e. 20 /20 or 25/20 . infact using heavier draw of double bandsets on 9.5 is a waste of energy and will make accurate shots harder. the double tbg is good for the 12mm lead though. hope tis helps atb 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrelivermore 0 Posted July 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Thanks that helps alot, so would single bands and 9.5 steel kill small game? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
youcanthide...BANG 1,051 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Yep. I've dropped loads with it 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cattykid123 122 Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 I shoot single tbg and 8 x 11 mm lead beans and dropped them with chest shots 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whipbed 42 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 agree with youcanhide i also find a side on shot on a pigeon more effective . i have tried much heavier bands and heavier ammo for very close range and this is very effective but you need to be close and i,m not very accurate with them. just try the lighter bands and the 9.5mm ammo and go for accuracy good luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j j m 6,550 Posted August 2, 2015 Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Its hard to take a pigeon down hitting it in the chest mate one to the bonce will do it every time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrelivermore 0 Posted August 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2015 Ok so ive orderd gamekeeper catapult with tbg double bands, does that mean i can only shoot 12m+? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whipbed 42 Posted August 3, 2015 Report Share Posted August 3, 2015 you can shoot lighter smaller ammo but you will probably get a bit of handslap and the bands may wear out quicker. this is due to the excess energy still left in the bands after each shot. get a roller cutter a cutting mat and some theraband plus some leather and make your own bands . this is what you will end up doing anyway if you get into s/shots. good luck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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