Hawkings Search For E.t

[Francie 6,368]

Ahh the wonders of the universe.

[Francie 6,368]

No one knows if there was a bang, its all assumptions, something caused the universe to come into being, it had a beginning, its not infinite, an it will have an end.

[rodp 316]

Was it here before though and expanded to it's limit, then contracted down to a miniscule particle which caused "the bang". And will it do it again ?

[Born Hunter 17,751]

 

 

 

 

 

Advancing our passive listening technology and operations is great. There could be any number of signals out there we are missing.

Sending out more signals though, I think is foolhardy and pointless. Foolhardy because we cannot presume or even hope that an alien civilisation will have any sort of moral respect for our existence. We're primitive, have barely taken our first steps from home and would get flattened! Pointless because the likelihood of there being advanced life close enough to earth to be of the slightest interest or use is slim, we'd probably already have heard them by now, or vice versa. JmoUnfortunately the universe is made in such a way to keep evolved life very separate. Estimates based on the drake equation, our understanding of cosmic expansion and that bitch special relativity just make 'contact' an improbable nightmarish dream!

We should definitely be looking to the stars... but let's master space travel, not space phone calls. We need to master our environment.

 

Only as we know it at the moment. Tomorrow could bring a huge leap forward with an unexpected discovery that would transform space travel.

I'm not holding my breath. Maybe CERN will find a superluminous tachyon and special rel can go f**k itself. Or maybe we'll figure out wormhole technology.

As a footnote, I watched Interstellar the other week. EPIC.... just EPIC!

Both theoretical to one degree or another so yes, the theoretical super particle could be found (harnessing it would be another problem) and relativity has always been, well, relative

The speed of light isn't relative, that's the point.

And at this stage, I would consider both tachyonic particles and wormholes exclusively hypothetical.

As you know it at this moment in time. That's my whole point, folk state facts that aren't really facts, and never can be. I don't dispute that light isn't relative to us, now, but what would you say if tomorrow it was discovered that light was just relative to our planet / universe and billions of light years away it altered ?

It wasn't too long ago that scientific research PROVED the earth was flat

Scientific research has never proved the earth was flat. Can you provide the research that did?

 

If you're going to say that something isn't a fact because it hasn't been tested under every single scenario then there are no such things as facts, they can't exist under that definition. But scientist are fully aware of this. Any theory is only true to within the boundary conditions of experimentation.

Edited July 23, 2015 by Born Hunter

[kanny 20,504]

Membrane or "brane" theory offers some hypothetical answers to the before and beyond questions and even what triggered the big bang ...like I said at the start of this threads revival at this point in time anything is possible and nothing can be ruled out.

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Let's just clear something up about cosmic expansion. The universe isn't said to be expanding 'into' anything. It's not like a cloud growing bigger into the space that surrounds it, that's a false interpretation. What is expanding is the dimensions of space itself.

 

Imagine just one dimensional space, backwards and forward, now imagine two points in that universe that represent a fixed distance. If that single dimensional space stretches then the distance between those point gets greater. The universe isn't expanding into space, it's the dimensions of space expanding themselves. They're no expanding into anything in our conventional sense because they ARE space. There's no understanding of space outside of our 3 dimensional system.

[Francie 6,368]

If you leave your house, an go north, soon enough your going to arrive back at your house, I think that's what light does in the universe.

[Tiercel 6,986]

Reading some of the posts here, about the planet that could possibly hold life as it is similar to ours, if somewhat enhanced because of it's suns age.

The planet is larger than ours, has a different year and day length. Would that give it a different set of theories to our planet? All our theories about space and relativity are all built around our planet and our sun. Would it be possible that those theories and rules are only true for our planet?

 

TC

[Born Hunter 17,751]

If you leave your house, an go north, soon enough your going to arrive back at your house, I think that's what light does in the universe.

If we live in a closed universe, ie our spacial dimensions are loops. That theory makes a lot of sense to me, I like it but don't think it's currently accepted as most likely.

[kanny 20,504]

Reading some of the posts here, about the planet that could possibly hold life as it is similar to ours, if somewhat enhanced because of it's suns age.

The planet is larger than ours, has a different year and day length. Would that give it a different set of theories to our planet? All our theories about space and relativity are all built around our planet and our sun. Would it be possible that those theories and rules are only true for our planet?

 

TC

the laws of physics apply to all the universe...at this point in time anyway lol

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Reading some of the posts here, about the planet that could possibly hold life as it is similar to ours, if somewhat enhanced because of it's suns age.

The planet is larger than ours, has a different year and day length. Would that give it a different set of theories to our planet? All our theories about space and relativity are all built around our planet and our sun. Would it be possible that those theories and rules are only true for our planet?

 

TC

Our theories that we developed on earth have been used to make predictions on stuff we should find 'out there', like black holes and stuff. We test the meat of these theories by making these predictions and looking for them. It's possible, of course, we are wrong.

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Was it here before though and expanded to it's limit, then contracted down to a miniscule particle which caused "the bang". And will it do it again ?

It's possible we can never know. We can't leave our universe to experiment on that level. Okay okay "yet" i hear you say. Lol

 

However we may be able to make reasonable deductions based on our universes behaviour.

[Tiercel 6,986]

 

Reading some of the posts here, about the planet that could possibly hold life as it is similar to ours, if somewhat enhanced because of it's suns age.

The planet is larger than ours, has a different year and day length. Would that give it a different set of theories to our planet? All our theories about space and relativity are all built around our planet and our sun. Would it be possible that those theories and rules are only true for our planet?

 

TC

the laws of physics apply to all the universe...at this point in time anyway lol

 

The laws of physics. Are they just our understanding / theories of how the cosmos works from our perspective? What happens if you have a different perspective do they change then?

 

TC

[nothernlite 18,078]

We have found shrek so there has to be hope

Edited July 24, 2015 by nothernlite

[mushroom 12,883]

Fuuckin god squad everytime!!!

 

Dimension theory is just that; theory!