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Can't even initiate conversation with the wife half the time lol

we put men on the moon long before we put little wheels on suitcases ....how funked up is that?

hmm I don't have a watch of this it's not long and very interesting '  

The only e.TS they will find, will be interdimensional, not intergalactic imo

could well be francie ..at this point in time nothing can be ruled out we have only just started to scratch the surface a new age of discovery is upon us

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Advancing our passive listening technology and operations is great. There could be any number of signals out there we are missing.

 

Sending out more signals though, I think is foolhardy and pointless. Foolhardy because we cannot presume or even hope that an alien civilisation will have any sort of moral respect for our existence. We're primitive, have barely taken our first steps from home and would get flattened! Pointless because the likelihood of there being advanced life close enough to earth to be of the slightest interest or use is slim, we'd probably already have heard them by now, or vice versa. Jmo

 

Unfortunately the universe is made in such a way to keep evolved life very separate. Estimates based on the drake equation, our understanding of cosmic expansion and that bitch special relativity just make 'contact' an improbable nightmarish dream!

 

We should definitely be looking to the stars... but let's master space travel, not space phone calls. We need to master our environment.

But that's it isn't it "our understanding" at the moment. How about our understanding tomorrow ?

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Makes me laugh all these folk who believe in UFO crashes.... Aliens have the advanced technology to travel millions and millions of miles to reach us and then they go and crash on a planet with such a mild atmosphere...

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Advancing our passive listening technology and operations is great. There could be any number of signals out there we are missing.

Sending out more signals though, I think is foolhardy and pointless. Foolhardy because we cannot presume or even hope that an alien civilisation will have any sort of moral respect for our existence. We're primitive, have barely taken our first steps from home and would get flattened! Pointless because the likelihood of there being advanced life close enough to earth to be of the slightest interest or use is slim, we'd probably already have heard them by now, or vice versa. JmoUnfortunately the universe is made in such a way to keep evolved life very separate. Estimates based on the drake equation, our understanding of cosmic expansion and that bitch special relativity just make 'contact' an improbable nightmarish dream!

We should definitely be looking to the stars... but let's master space travel, not space phone calls. We need to master our environment.

Only as we know it at the moment. Tomorrow could bring a huge leap forward with an unexpected discovery that would transform space travel.

I'm not holding my breath. Maybe CERN will find a superluminous tachyon and special rel can go f**k itself. Or maybe we'll figure out wormhole technology.

 

As a footnote, I watched Interstellar the other week. EPIC.... just EPIC!

 

Both theoretical to one degree or another so yes, the theoretical super particle could be found (harnessing it would be another problem) and relativity has always been, well, relative :huh:

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Advancing our passive listening technology and operations is great. There could be any number of signals out there we are missing.

Sending out more signals though, I think is foolhardy and pointless. Foolhardy because we cannot presume or even hope that an alien civilisation will have any sort of moral respect for our existence. We're primitive, have barely taken our first steps from home and would get flattened! Pointless because the likelihood of there being advanced life close enough to earth to be of the slightest interest or use is slim, we'd probably already have heard them by now, or vice versa. Jmo

Unfortunately the universe is made in such a way to keep evolved life very separate. Estimates based on the drake equation, our understanding of cosmic expansion and that bitch special relativity just make 'contact' an improbable nightmarish dream!

We should definitely be looking to the stars... but let's master space travel, not space phone calls. We need to master our environment.

 

But that's it isn't it "our understanding" at the moment. How about our understanding tomorrow ?

Then we reassess the situation and proceed accordingly. However based on today's knowledge my comments stand.

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Advancing our passive listening technology and operations is great. There could be any number of signals out there we are missing.

Sending out more signals though, I think is foolhardy and pointless. Foolhardy because we cannot presume or even hope that an alien civilisation will have any sort of moral respect for our existence. We're primitive, have barely taken our first steps from home and would get flattened! Pointless because the likelihood of there being advanced life close enough to earth to be of the slightest interest or use is slim, we'd probably already have heard them by now, or vice versa. JmoUnfortunately the universe is made in such a way to keep evolved life very separate. Estimates based on the drake equation, our understanding of cosmic expansion and that bitch special relativity just make 'contact' an improbable nightmarish dream!

We should definitely be looking to the stars... but let's master space travel, not space phone calls. We need to master our environment.

 

Only as we know it at the moment. Tomorrow could bring a huge leap forward with an unexpected discovery that would transform space travel.
I'm not holding my breath. Maybe CERN will find a superluminous tachyon and special rel can go f**k itself. Or maybe we'll figure out wormhole technology.

As a footnote, I watched Interstellar the other week. EPIC.... just EPIC!

Both theoretical to one degree or another so yes, the theoretical super particle could be found (harnessing it would be another problem) and relativity has always been, well, relative :huh:

The speed of light isn't relative, that's the point.

 

And at this stage, I would consider both tachyonic particles and wormholes exclusively hypothetical.

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Advancing our passive listening technology and operations is great. There could be any number of signals out there we are missing.

Sending out more signals though, I think is foolhardy and pointless. Foolhardy because we cannot presume or even hope that an alien civilisation will have any sort of moral respect for our existence. We're primitive, have barely taken our first steps from home and would get flattened! Pointless because the likelihood of there being advanced life close enough to earth to be of the slightest interest or use is slim, we'd probably already have heard them by now, or vice versa. JmoUnfortunately the universe is made in such a way to keep evolved life very separate. Estimates based on the drake equation, our understanding of cosmic expansion and that bitch special relativity just make 'contact' an improbable nightmarish dream!

We should definitely be looking to the stars... but let's master space travel, not space phone calls. We need to master our environment.

Only as we know it at the moment. Tomorrow could bring a huge leap forward with an unexpected discovery that would transform space travel.
I'm not holding my breath. Maybe CERN will find a superluminous tachyon and special rel can go f**k itself. Or maybe we'll figure out wormhole technology.

As a footnote, I watched Interstellar the other week. EPIC.... just EPIC!

Both theoretical to one degree or another so yes, the theoretical super particle could be found (harnessing it would be another problem) and relativity has always been, well, relative :huh:

The speed of light isn't relative, that's the point.

 

And at this stage, I would consider both tachyonic particles and wormholes exclusively hypothetical.

 

Same applies here as your previous post. Both posts are correct at the moment ! But as my first post said, we don't know what tomorrow brings.

5 minutes from now we could hear the startling news that the speed of light IS relative, we could find out that there's no other dimensions on the planet, we could be told that yes, there is other life and they created us.

Anything can happen and we know so very, very little. When it comes to the universe we're clueless..... but that one single breakthrough could change everything.

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I wish I had a better grasp of the quantum stuff im currently reading Billy blue hats quantum physics lol...you might have to be of a certain age to get that .

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But you're absolutely right though, as I alluded to earlier. As our knowledge improves we may find a way around these problems.

 

There's one we have already; Time dilation can be our friend as well as our enemy.

True, but I thought the relative difference in time was so small we would never be able to utilise it ?

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