DogFox123 1,379 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Another thing about E.T and aliens,,,,I've always thought,,the conspiracy theory's ,,we're started by governments to cover up other stuff,,ie spying testing new air craft,,or whatever,,,there's so many folk out wanting to believe in ET,,,that it's a convenient scape goat... Here's a for instance....joe blogs takes a pic of a space ship,,,he's interviewed by plod,,,then airforce and finally ,,,the men in black suits...then his pics go missing nice and convenient ,,,he's told to keep stumm by the suits,,..but he doesn't (and actually the black suits don't want him to) he goes to press,,they run the story,,,,and yet another conspiracy that there must be aliens and the government is covering it up... The actual pic was some new top secret aircraft... Correct card no doubt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) So what is the universe expanding in to? If light travels at 186000 miles per second at the 1second mark after the bang light traveled 186000 miles, but into what exactly?????? If nothing was there before yeah this gets me and surely something cannot expnd in to nothing? someone said the universe is like a bubble expanding but the bubble is expanding in to the atmosphere what can the universe be expanding into? It's difficult to conceptualise. Try not to think of it as a geometric expansion like a cloud swelling into the space around it. Cosmic expansion is a stretching of the dimensions of space itself. Can you conceptualise time stretching? Slowing down or speeding up relative to others? Well imagine the same but for the space dimensions. If they are stretching, causing an expansion of the volume of the universe/space, then the universe isn't expanding 'in to' anything as such. Take a piece of elastic and tie two knots in it. The elastic is one of our 3 spacial dimensions. As you stretch it, the dimension of the universe that is represented by the length of that piece of elastic grows with any two fixed points in that universe getting further apart too. That piece of elastic is expanding, in our model, into the air around it, but given that it is a representation of an actual spacial dimension and not a physical object, it's not actually expanding in to anything, that we can be aware of at least. That's expansion and big bang. What is 'outside' or, probably more accurately, beyond our 3 dimensional space/universe is not described by these theories and neither do they attempt to. Edited July 24, 2015 by Born Hunter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 If the Big Bang theory is correct then the chance of us meeting intelligent life in the next few centuries is slim to none. Earth is perfect for life and it's took us this long to evolve into the intelligent creatures that we are, the same timescale of evolution would more than likely be similar on other planets that could contain life. It's difficult to conceptualise. Try not to think of it as a geometric expansion like a cloud swelling into the space around it. Cosmic expansion is a stretching of the dimensions of space itself. Can you conceptualise time stretching? Slowing down or speeding up relative to others? Well imagine the same but for the space dimensions. If they are stretching, causing an expansion of the volume of the universe/space, then the universe isn't expanding 'in to' anything as such. Take a piece of elastic and tie two knots in it. The elastic is one of our 3 spacial dimensions. As you stretch it, the dimension of the universe that is represented by the length of that piece of elastic grows with any two fixed points in that universe getting further apart too. That piece of elastic is expanding, in our model, into the air around it, but given that it is a representation of an actual spacial dimension and not a physical object, it's not actually expanding in to anything, that we can be aware of at least. That's expansion and big bang. What is 'outside' or, probably more accurately, beyond our 3 dimensional space/universe is not described by these theories and neither do they attempt to. Think you replied to the wrong bloke mate ha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) Another thing about E.T and aliens,,,,I've always thought,,the conspiracy theory's ,,we're started by governments to cover up other stuff,,ie spying testing new air craft,,or whatever,,,there's so many folk out wanting to believe in ET,,,that it's a convenient scape goat... Here's a for instance....joe blogs takes a pic of a space ship,,,he's interviewed by plod,,,then airforce and finally ,,,the men in black suits...then his pics go missing nice and convenient ,,,he's told to keep stumm by the suits,,..but he doesn't (and actually the black suits don't want him to) he goes to press,,they run the story,,,,and yet another conspiracy that there must be aliens and the government is covering it up... The actual pic was some new top secret aircraft... I agree, in most instances. However, there is a story of an RAF interceptor that was scrambled back in the cold war to a UFO in British airspace. The pilot reported how the aircraft manoeuvred like nothing even conceivable by human technological standards. Plenty of potential rational explanations, but still, occasionally there are quite incredible reports... Edited; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakenheath-Bentwaters_incident Edited July 24, 2015 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Think you replied to the wrong bloke mate ha. LOL, thanks, fixed it now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interdimensional_hypothesis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 26,070 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 So what is the universe expanding in to? If light travels at 186000 miles per second at the 1second mark after the bang light traveled 186000 miles, but into what exactly?????? If nothing was there before yeah this gets me and surely something cannot expnd in to nothing? someone said the universe is like a bubble expanding but the bubble is expanding in to the atmosphere what can the universe be expanding into? It's difficult to conceptualise. Try not to think of it as a geometric expansion like a cloud swelling into the space around it. Cosmic expansion is a stretching of the dimensions of space itself. Can you conceptualise time stretching? Slowing down or speeding up relative to others? Well imagine the same but for the space dimensions. If they are stretching, causing an expansion of the volume of the universe/space, then the universe isn't expanding 'in to' anything as such. Take a piece of elastic and tie two knots in it. The elastic is one of our 3 spacial dimensions. As you stretch it, the dimension of the universe that is represented by the length of that piece of elastic grows with any two fixed points in that universe getting further apart too. That piece of elastic is expanding, in our model, into the air around it, but given that it is a representation of an actual spacial dimension and not a physical object, it's not actually expanding in to anything, that we can be aware of at least. That's expansion and big bang. What is 'outside' or, probably more accurately, beyond our 3 dimensional space/universe is not described by these theories and neither do they attempt to. Lol,,,clear as mud to me all that.....all I know is ,,,it's a big old place this universe ,,, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Speaking of the universe I've just watched Interstellar, could possibly be my greatest movie of all time!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Has anyone thought about the law of gravity, what is it an how did it come to be? When we see pics or whatever of our solar system, the planets an stars are floating, actually everything is floating, what is gravity an how the feck does it keep everything afloat? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Sorry to burst the alien hunters bubble, lol If people are saying aliens evolved, then its not true, nor did life on earth evolve. I've put this up before, scientist Louis pasteur, proved with his swan neck experiment, that life cannot spontaneously generate, ie abiogenisis, he proved this over a hundred years ago but, its ignored, sorry to break it to you lads. Google Louis pasteuer an youl find all you need to know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,734 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 francie, how do we know that the gods are not ets? when it says that the gods decended from the heavens to earth, well nowadays we would call them ets??? how do we know that were not just some kind of experiment created by superior beings? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 What do you mean by ets, I've never met one lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 12,883 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 FLMAO this is cheering my metro wait right up Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,734 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 What do you mean by ets, I've never met one lolextra terrestrials Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 Describe it to me, cause I don't know, rather no one knows what et is, little green men? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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