Zilverhaze 1,627 Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Steven Hawkins Lego edition 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted July 21, 2015 Report Share Posted July 21, 2015 Hahahaha........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Francie 6,368 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 The only e.TS they will find, will be interdimensional, not intergalactic imo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,504 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) The only e.TS they will find, will be interdimensional, not intergalactic imo could well be francie ..at this point in time nothing can be ruled out we have only just started to scratch the surface a new age of discovery is upon us Edited July 23, 2015 by kanny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 If you want to meet your makers smoke some DMT.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 http://www.iflscience.com/say-hello-earth-20-historic-kepler-discovery-suggests-we-are-not-alone 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rodp 316 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Advancing our passive listening technology and operations is great. There could be any number of signals out there we are missing. Sending out more signals though, I think is foolhardy and pointless. Foolhardy because we cannot presume or even hope that an alien civilisation will have any sort of moral respect for our existence. We're primitive, have barely taken our first steps from home and would get flattened! Pointless because the likelihood of there being advanced life close enough to earth to be of the slightest interest or use is slim, we'd probably already have heard them by now, or vice versa. Jmo Unfortunately the universe is made in such a way to keep evolved life very separate. Estimates based on the drake equation, our understanding of cosmic expansion and that bitch special relativity just make 'contact' an improbable nightmarish dream! We should definitely be looking to the stars... but let's master space travel, not space phone calls. We need to master our environment. But that's it isn't it "our understanding" at the moment. How about our understanding tomorrow ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DogFox123 1,379 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Makes me laugh all these folk who believe in UFO crashes.... Aliens have the advanced technology to travel millions and millions of miles to reach us and then they go and crash on a planet with such a mild atmosphere... Edited July 23, 2015 by DogFox123 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rodp 316 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Advancing our passive listening technology and operations is great. There could be any number of signals out there we are missing. Sending out more signals though, I think is foolhardy and pointless. Foolhardy because we cannot presume or even hope that an alien civilisation will have any sort of moral respect for our existence. We're primitive, have barely taken our first steps from home and would get flattened! Pointless because the likelihood of there being advanced life close enough to earth to be of the slightest interest or use is slim, we'd probably already have heard them by now, or vice versa. JmoUnfortunately the universe is made in such a way to keep evolved life very separate. Estimates based on the drake equation, our understanding of cosmic expansion and that bitch special relativity just make 'contact' an improbable nightmarish dream! We should definitely be looking to the stars... but let's master space travel, not space phone calls. We need to master our environment. Only as we know it at the moment. Tomorrow could bring a huge leap forward with an unexpected discovery that would transform space travel. I'm not holding my breath. Maybe CERN will find a superluminous tachyon and special rel can go f**k itself. Or maybe we'll figure out wormhole technology. As a footnote, I watched Interstellar the other week. EPIC.... just EPIC! Both theoretical to one degree or another so yes, the theoretical super particle could be found (harnessing it would be another problem) and relativity has always been, well, relative Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Advancing our passive listening technology and operations is great. There could be any number of signals out there we are missing. Sending out more signals though, I think is foolhardy and pointless. Foolhardy because we cannot presume or even hope that an alien civilisation will have any sort of moral respect for our existence. We're primitive, have barely taken our first steps from home and would get flattened! Pointless because the likelihood of there being advanced life close enough to earth to be of the slightest interest or use is slim, we'd probably already have heard them by now, or vice versa. Jmo Unfortunately the universe is made in such a way to keep evolved life very separate. Estimates based on the drake equation, our understanding of cosmic expansion and that bitch special relativity just make 'contact' an improbable nightmarish dream! We should definitely be looking to the stars... but let's master space travel, not space phone calls. We need to master our environment. But that's it isn't it "our understanding" at the moment. How about our understanding tomorrow ? Then we reassess the situation and proceed accordingly. However based on today's knowledge my comments stand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Advancing our passive listening technology and operations is great. There could be any number of signals out there we are missing. Sending out more signals though, I think is foolhardy and pointless. Foolhardy because we cannot presume or even hope that an alien civilisation will have any sort of moral respect for our existence. We're primitive, have barely taken our first steps from home and would get flattened! Pointless because the likelihood of there being advanced life close enough to earth to be of the slightest interest or use is slim, we'd probably already have heard them by now, or vice versa. JmoUnfortunately the universe is made in such a way to keep evolved life very separate. Estimates based on the drake equation, our understanding of cosmic expansion and that bitch special relativity just make 'contact' an improbable nightmarish dream! We should definitely be looking to the stars... but let's master space travel, not space phone calls. We need to master our environment. Only as we know it at the moment. Tomorrow could bring a huge leap forward with an unexpected discovery that would transform space travel.I'm not holding my breath. Maybe CERN will find a superluminous tachyon and special rel can go f**k itself. Or maybe we'll figure out wormhole technology.As a footnote, I watched Interstellar the other week. EPIC.... just EPIC! Both theoretical to one degree or another so yes, the theoretical super particle could be found (harnessing it would be another problem) and relativity has always been, well, relative The speed of light isn't relative, that's the point. And at this stage, I would consider both tachyonic particles and wormholes exclusively hypothetical. Edited July 23, 2015 by Born Hunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,751 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 But you're absolutely right though, as I alluded to earlier. As our knowledge improves we may find a way around these problems. There's one we have already; Time dilation can be our friend as well as our enemy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rodp 316 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Advancing our passive listening technology and operations is great. There could be any number of signals out there we are missing. Sending out more signals though, I think is foolhardy and pointless. Foolhardy because we cannot presume or even hope that an alien civilisation will have any sort of moral respect for our existence. We're primitive, have barely taken our first steps from home and would get flattened! Pointless because the likelihood of there being advanced life close enough to earth to be of the slightest interest or use is slim, we'd probably already have heard them by now, or vice versa. JmoUnfortunately the universe is made in such a way to keep evolved life very separate. Estimates based on the drake equation, our understanding of cosmic expansion and that bitch special relativity just make 'contact' an improbable nightmarish dream! We should definitely be looking to the stars... but let's master space travel, not space phone calls. We need to master our environment. Only as we know it at the moment. Tomorrow could bring a huge leap forward with an unexpected discovery that would transform space travel.I'm not holding my breath. Maybe CERN will find a superluminous tachyon and special rel can go f**k itself. Or maybe we'll figure out wormhole technology.As a footnote, I watched Interstellar the other week. EPIC.... just EPIC! Both theoretical to one degree or another so yes, the theoretical super particle could be found (harnessing it would be another problem) and relativity has always been, well, relative The speed of light isn't relative, that's the point. And at this stage, I would consider both tachyonic particles and wormholes exclusively hypothetical. Same applies here as your previous post. Both posts are correct at the moment ! But as my first post said, we don't know what tomorrow brings. 5 minutes from now we could hear the startling news that the speed of light IS relative, we could find out that there's no other dimensions on the planet, we could be told that yes, there is other life and they created us. Anything can happen and we know so very, very little. When it comes to the universe we're clueless..... but that one single breakthrough could change everything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,504 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 I wish I had a better grasp of the quantum stuff im currently reading Billy blue hats quantum physics lol...you might have to be of a certain age to get that . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rodp 316 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 But you're absolutely right though, as I alluded to earlier. As our knowledge improves we may find a way around these problems. There's one we have already; Time dilation can be our friend as well as our enemy. True, but I thought the relative difference in time was so small we would never be able to utilise it ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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