22 Hornet Or 17 Hornet?

[slipper 116]

thinking of a dedicated nightvision outfit still and have the variation forms ready

which one do you think? i will be reloading for it aswell, leaning towards the 22 as there is more choice on rifles

[shropshire dan 467]

I'd go .17 mate especially as a dedicated NV setup. Alot flatter which is helpful using NV buddy. The chap I've just bought my .243 from has 3 .17 rifles in he's not got a website but Google Tom Parry guns and it gives his number and address. He's not far only in church stretton.

Edited July 15, 2015 by shropshire dan

[slipper 116]

cheers mate i know tom bought a air rifle off him i did,nt think he was still going

[shropshire dan 467]

Yeah mate nice chap. He had a few various rifles their. I didn't no he existed until i went powys guns and they said he was after a .22-250.

[ianm 2,594]

Having used a .22 Hornet extensively over the years and a .17 Hornet on and off belonging to a friend i am just in the process of doing a one for one with my HMR for a .17 Hornet.

 

I think it is a great little small vermin calibre with genuine 200 yd fox capability. Crows, rabbits etc out to 300 yds, cheap to load for, very flat shooting, what's not to like. My mates is a savage i am getting a cz 527.

[slipper 116]

ok sounds good has the 527 still got the set trigger, thats what i am a bit fussy about really

[ianm 2,594]

ok sounds good has the 527 still got the set trigger, thats what i am a bit fussy about really

 

 

Yes it has.

[zx10mike 137]

never owned a 22 hornet but i'm real im pressed with the 17 hornet,cz of course.

[Born Hunter 17,751]

What's the advantage of the 17 hornet over say a 223? Ammo costs? Otherwise surely the 223 trumps it in every way? Is the cost difference worth it? And finally, all things considered, is the 17 rem the better choice?

[slipper 116]

this is the thing i already have a 223 which is my daytime or lamping rifle, nothing wrong with it but i would like a rifle for nightvision so not really sure

[ianm 2,594]

What's the advantage of the 17 hornet over say a 223? Ammo costs? Otherwise surely the 223 trumps it in every way? Is the cost difference worth it? And finally, all things considered, is the 17 rem the better choice?

 

The .223 is not really a small vermin rifle rabbits etc. It uses approx 25 grns of powder as opposed to 11.5 grns or so. The .17 is a very sweet calibre to shoot, a real pleasure. It is a small vermin rifle with genuine 200yds fox capability. Cheaper to run and nicer to shoot than a .223.

 

The .17 rem is a different thing again, if the choice was .223 or .17 rem i would have neither as the .204 is better than both.

[Born Hunter 17,751]

 

What's the advantage of the 17 hornet over say a 223? Ammo costs? Otherwise surely the 223 trumps it in every way? Is the cost difference worth it? And finally, all things considered, is the 17 rem the better choice?

 

The .223 is not really a small vermin rifle rabbits etc. It uses approx 25 grns of powder as opposed to 11.5 grns or so. The .17 is a very sweet calibre to shoot, a real pleasure. It is a small vermin rifle with genuine 200yds fox capability. Cheaper to run and nicer to shoot than a .223.

 

The .17 rem is a different thing again, if the choice was .223 or .17 rem i would have neither as the .204 is better than both.

Okay, but is the ammo cost savings worth all the disadvantages when compared to the 223?

 

Is a 17 hornet really any better for small game etc than a 223? I mean a hmr is unsuitable for anything but head shots so what's the advantage of the 17 hornet over the 223? It surely not a meat saving caliber, no?

 

Given ammo availability, rifle availability and the considerable step up in capability the 223 offers over the 17 hornet, it just makes me wonder where that really leaves the 17 hornet...

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Just wanna add, I'm not trying to attack the caliber or anyone that uses it. We all have our favourites for whatever reason and I've never used one so just throwing out my ponderings.

[ianm 2,594]

Yes you can eat meat shot with the .17 hornet. In what way is it in your opinion disadvantaged against a .223.?

[Born Hunter 17,751]

Yes you can eat meat shot with the .17 hornet. In what way is it in your opinion disadvantaged against a .223.?

Less powerful, not deer legal, reduced range, ammo far less available, smaller choice of rifles and second hand market.

 

What do you mean you can eat meat shot with it exactly? Are you saying that you can body shoot rabbits and still have a decent carcass? Because a hmr fucks them up so I find it a little hard to believe that a hornet wouldnt. Though perhaps we just have a different opinion in acceptable damage. As I said, to my mind for small game for the table it's head shot only with anything more powerful than a 22 rimmy so I'm struggling to see the advantage of the 17 hornet over the 223. But that my personal requirements. Clearly yours are different and that's fine too. Atb

Edited July 16, 2015 by Born Hunter