desertbred 5,490 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Compare Halal slaughter with some of the videos Wilf posted tell me what should be eliminated?, Just as I hunt my dogs inspite of the Ban ,if Halal slaughter were to be banned I would continue with that not change my faith to suit you or the Government. I'm not saying anything should be banned I'm saying that if a political party is looking into a form of hunting on the grounds of animal welfare then it should also look at Halal Not going to happen because Halal and Kosher are very similar and who pulls the political and financial strings in UK? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bo Duke 420 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Religion has no place in modern society, if you chose to believe in pretend made up magic wizards in the sky then that's fine but don't push your rubbish onto the rest of us, don't have special laws, tax exemptions, accepted cruelty to animals and don't teach the horse shit as fact to my kids in school!. Like your trying to push your beleifs of "Modern Society " on others are you the Guardian of Modern Society? As for specialist Laws isnt that what you north of the Border want ? should we beleive the Bollocks of the SNP we can see how truthful they are, Dont tell me there not your Government they hold the sway of power in Scotland and we all have experienced the Scots view of modern society this week havent we. You dont even understand society never mind modern society I'm not pushing anything on anyone like I said " if you chose to believe in made up sky wizards that's fine but I don't want to hear about it " they're not my government and I'm not a Scot Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 The cruelest, inhumane thing about slaughter in general is the way the animals are all piled onto trucks and herded into one big killing factory. As far as animal welfare goes IMO the best thing for them would be that they were slaughtered at source on the farm so the process is done and over as quickly as possible. This Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Religion has no place in modern society, if you chose to believe in pretend made up magic wizards in the sky then that's fine but don't push your rubbish onto the rest of us, don't have special laws, tax exemptions, accepted cruelty to animals and don't teach the horse shit as fact to my kids in school!.Like your trying to push your beleifs of "Modern Society " on others are you the Guardian of Modern Society? As for specialist Laws isnt that what you north of the Border want ? should we beleive the Bollocks of the SNP we can see how truthful they are, Dont tell me there not your Government they hold the sway of power in Scotland and we all have experienced the Scots view of modern society this week havent we. You dont even understand society never mind modern society I'm not pushing anything on anyone like I said " if you chose to believe in made up sky wizards that's fine but I don't want to hear about it " they're not my government and I'm not a Scot So your a plastic Jock flying the St Andrews x on your avatar, I dont particularly want to read your opinions but hey there is freedom of speech or should that be curtailed also ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bo Duke 420 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I've only lived here for two months, maybe it was a mistake changing my flag, I don't know I just thought it was the done thing. I'm sorry if that confused you and you thought I was supporting the SNP I'm not. I hope they don't tighten or impose anymore restrictions on hunting in Scotland as its my job it's not just a hobby or a pastime for me so as you can imagine I'm not over the moon about what they've been saying of late. I'm sorry if you don't want to read my opinions but the nature of these public forums is such that quite often there are posts that are put up by members of differing opinions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I said there is free speech and freedom of choice in most matters, you appear to have problems with some choices not me, good luck in your career anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,411 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 The highlands have not been the same the last two months, bag pipes have been replaced with the sound of "NWA" blasting from his ghetto blaster.........make no mistake, he is da original G ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bo Duke 420 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Thank you Desertbred and f##k you WILF, have you changed your number? Edited July 16, 2015 by Bo Duke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,411 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 No mate?......you been trying to call? I will send you it and my home number if you want. You can tell me about sky wizards and I will leave a bowl of water outside and see if it turns into an elephant ! Xxx Hugs and kisses sweet cheeks ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I always find it interesting that people bang on so much about halal slaughte but kosher slaughter barely gets a mention Almost like there's some kind of hidden agenda and it's not about animal welfare at all? If you eat factory farmed and saughtered meat then start banging on about animal welfare issues you really are a hypocrite. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I always find it interesting that people bang on so much about halal slaughte but kosher slaughter barely gets a mention Almost like there's some kind of hidden agenda and it's not about animal welfare at all? If you eat factory farmed and saughtered meat then start banging on about animal welfare issues you really are a hypocrite. Is Kosher done on the same scale as Halal in the UK I think its about having the right to choose after all Muslims and Jews get the choice 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
green lurchers 16,739 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) the magic book of life or death depends if you believe in it Edited July 16, 2015 by green lurchers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I'd like to know the SNP's views on Halal slaughter..... Nicola Sturgeon once sat on a bus next to a Mussie so think she would be in favour of Halal slaughter f**k it blame the "Religion of Peace" anyway I always thought you were a c**t now I know you are I genuinely find it hard to believe you didn't know the man was drawing comparisons to animal welfare/cruelty and sturgeons hypocrisy. You can't be as clever as I gave you credit for. The liberals lick Muslim arse so won't say a bad about them,if we constantly compare it hunting (without attacking halal) they'll be stuck for an argument. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lutra Lutra 611 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 I'd like to know the SNP's views on Halal slaughter..... Nicola Sturgeon once sat on a bus next to a Mussie so think she would be in favour of Halal slaughter f**k it blame the "Religion of Peace" anyway I always thought you were a c**t now I know you are lolol another easily fended Muslim. Ffs desertbred I thought you were made of tougher stuff Just remind me what has Halal slaughter got to do with the Hunting Ban as for easily offended LOL you certainly don t know me I'm fairly sure it was to highlight the double standards in the politics. That one minorities foreign cultural practices are considered untouchable and yet another's (ours) are considered insignificant. I am fairly sure its because hes a c**t just expressing an opinion :cry: :cry: :cry: I only asked if anyone knew their stance on Halal slaughter. After all, this is a debate on Animal Welfare is it not. IMO lots more animals get their throat slit while they are still alive than will ever be hunted with dogs. I would imagine this would surely be up on the SNP's agenda, that's if this is really about welfare and not just a class issue. It would be nice to have a reply from NS herself on this, and I wonder why Brian May isn't stood on his parapet asking for this cruel practice to be stamped out. This is not a religious thing, I am an atheist, I don't believe in religion or God or whatever, this is about a practice that is cruel and inhumane for no reason at all. Totally agree.This country doesn't care about its own people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 Compare Halal slaughter with some of the videos Wilf posted tell me what should be eliminated?, Just as I hunt my dogs inspite of the Ban ,if Halal slaughter were to be banned I would continue with that not change my faith to suit you or the Government.I'm not saying anything should be banned I'm saying that if a political party is looking into a form of hunting on the grounds of animal welfare then it should also look at Halal Not going to happen because Halal and Kosher are very similar and who pulls the political and financial strings in UK? According to BVA (UK vet association and therefore fairly independent) -90% of halal meat is stunned before slaughter. The difference being that this is a 'recoverable' stun. But it is still stunning. Kosher slaughter allows no stunning what soever. Not even recoverable stuns. In addition, the kosher requirement to de-vein meat means that they only eat the front half of the animal (for animals other than poultry obviously). Everything from the 11th rib back is dumped on the open market, unlabelled. On balance, I would say you are more likely to unknowingly eating unstunned kosher meat than you are unstunned halal meat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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