gnasher16 30,592 Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) On 14/07/2015 at 10:30, Accip74 said: Interesting you mention clacton, I know it well........a place that has certainly seen a rise in knife crime, violence, anti social behaviour over the years, & yes there are clear divisions there, but little to do with immigration.....yet! There's a clear divide between the decent & white trash, although I will admit, ironically this has been largely spawned by East London white flight over the years & has in turn over spilled into my little home town. These same people would be heard loudly moaning about what a shite hole London had become, but often couldn't wait to turn their new found 'better' neighbourhood into another shite hole! I really do get the anger & frustrations over immigration & loss of identity in many parts of England today, I would no doubt have similar feelings had I grown up in such towns or cities.......but never underestimate the divides that supposedly our own white population can create in once decent areas........it's not all black & white While i accept whites can be " orrible little c**ts" as well......i dont think the influence black gang culture has had on white English youth can be ignored.........when i was growing up in the east end of London many years ago we had plenty of little firms and gangs of kids running amok.....but we still had basic morals and principals....we wouldnt be seen dead behaving like some of these kids do today with their silly Jamaican patois nonsense and all the rap shit.....what is turning up in places like Clacton as second hand London overspill is not London overspill at all its 3rd hand Jamaican/Somalian/Algerian overspill......when we was kids places like Clacton/Walton even Canvey Island were our summer holiday destinations .....there was no problems the areas didnt become shitholes over the summer. Communities feel the weight of immigration in many different ways Edited July 15, 2015 by gnasher16 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Accip74 7,112 Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 On 15/07/2015 at 09:29, gnasher16 said: On 14/07/2015 at 10:30, Accip74 said: Interesting you mention clacton, I know it well........a place that has certainly seen a rise in knife crime, violence, anti social behaviour over the years, & yes there are clear divisions there, but little to do with immigration.....yet! There's a clear divide between the decent & white trash, although I will admit, ironically this has been largely spawned by East London white flight over the years & has in turn over spilled into my little home town. These same people would be heard loudly moaning about what a shite hole London had become, but often couldn't wait to turn their new found 'better' neighbourhood into another shite hole! I really do get the anger & frustrations over immigration & loss of identity in many parts of England today, I would no doubt have similar feelings had I grown up in such towns or cities.......but never underestimate the divides that supposedly our own white population can create in once decent areas........it's not all black & white While i accept whites can be " orrible little c**ts" as well......i dont think the influence black gang culture has had on white English youth can be ignored.........when i was growing up in the east end of London many years ago we had plenty of little firms and gangs of kids running amok.....but we still had basic morals and principals....we wouldnt be seen dead behaving like some of these kids do today with their silly Jamaican patois nonsense and all the rap shit.....what is turning up in places like Clacton as second hand London overspill is not London overspill at all its 3rd hand Jamaican/Somalian/Algerian overspill......when we was kids places like Clacton/Walton even Canvey Island were our summer holiday destinations .....there was no problems the areas didnt become shitholes over the summer. Communities feel the weight of immigration in many different ways Yeh I accept a lot of that, but I grew up just down the road, frequented the place a lot in my younger days, I have friends there & my brother in law worked the door there for maybe 15 years.......so I'm fully aware of the influence Londoners have had in the town. Clacton's white youth of today probably are influenced by elements black gang culture, but in my day they were all 'plastic cockneys' haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,592 Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 On 15/07/2015 at 09:51, Accip74 said: On 15/07/2015 at 09:29, gnasher16 said: On 14/07/2015 at 10:30, Accip74 said: Interesting you mention clacton, I know it well........a place that has certainly seen a rise in knife crime, violence, anti social behaviour over the years, & yes there are clear divisions there, but little to do with immigration.....yet! There's a clear divide between the decent & white trash, although I will admit, ironically this has been largely spawned by East London white flight over the years & has in turn over spilled into my little home town. These same people would be heard loudly moaning about what a shite hole London had become, but often couldn't wait to turn their new found 'better' neighbourhood into another shite hole! I really do get the anger & frustrations over immigration & loss of identity in many parts of England today, I would no doubt have similar feelings had I grown up in such towns or cities.......but never underestimate the divides that supposedly our own white population can create in once decent areas........it's not all black & white While i accept whites can be " orrible little c**ts" as well......i dont think the influence black gang culture has had on white English youth can be ignored.........when i was growing up in the east end of London many years ago we had plenty of little firms and gangs of kids running amok.....but we still had basic morals and principals....we wouldnt be seen dead behaving like some of these kids do today with their silly Jamaican patois nonsense and all the rap shit.....what is turning up in places like Clacton as second hand London overspill is not London overspill at all its 3rd hand Jamaican/Somalian/Algerian overspill......when we was kids places like Clacton/Walton even Canvey Island were our summer holiday destinations .....there was no problems the areas didnt become shitholes over the summer. Communities feel the weight of immigration in many different ways Yeh I accept a lot of that, but I grew up just down the road, frequented the place a lot in my younger days, I have friends there & my brother in law worked the door there for maybe 15 years.......so I'm fully aware of the influence Londoners have had in the town. Clacton's white youth of today probably are influenced by elements black gang culture, but in my day they were all 'plastic cockneys' haha There you go then in your day it was full of plastic cockneys....today its full of plastic yardies .............better or worse ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 On 15/07/2015 at 09:58, gnasher16 said: On 15/07/2015 at 09:51, Accip74 said: On 15/07/2015 at 09:29, gnasher16 said: On 14/07/2015 at 10:30, Accip74 said: Interesting you mention clacton, I know it well........a place that has certainly seen a rise in knife crime, violence, anti social behaviour over the years, & yes there are clear divisions there, but little to do with immigration.....yet! There's a clear divide between the decent & white trash, although I will admit, ironically this has been largely spawned by East London white flight over the years & has in turn over spilled into my little home town. These same people would be heard loudly moaning about what a shite hole London had become, but often couldn't wait to turn their new found 'better' neighbourhood into another shite hole! I really do get the anger & frustrations over immigration & loss of identity in many parts of England today, I would no doubt have similar feelings had I grown up in such towns or cities.......but never underestimate the divides that supposedly our own white population can create in once decent areas........it's not all black & white While i accept whites can be " orrible little c**ts" as well......i dont think the influence black gang culture has had on white English youth can be ignored.........when i was growing up in the east end of London many years ago we had plenty of little firms and gangs of kids running amok.....but we still had basic morals and principals....we wouldnt be seen dead behaving like some of these kids do today with their silly Jamaican patois nonsense and all the rap shit.....what is turning up in places like Clacton as second hand London overspill is not London overspill at all its 3rd hand Jamaican/Somalian/Algerian overspill......when we was kids places like Clacton/Walton even Canvey Island were our summer holiday destinations .....there was no problems the areas didnt become shitholes over the summer. Communities feel the weight of immigration in many different ways Yeh I accept a lot of that, but I grew up just down the road, frequented the place a lot in my younger days, I have friends there & my brother in law worked the door there for maybe 15 years.......so I'm fully aware of the influence Londoners have had in the town. Clacton's white youth of today probably are influenced by elements black gang culture, but in my day they were all 'plastic cockneys' haha There you go then in your day it was full of plastic cockneys....today its full of plastic yardies .............better or worse ? Haha......well I managed to remain unscathed by either, so maybe I'm not the best judge ;-) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mackem 28,378 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Cultural enrichment......... http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/591577/British-Pakistanis-13-times-more-disabled-children Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 On 16/07/2015 at 14:05, mackem said: Cultural enrichment......... http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/591577/British-Pakistanis-13-times-more-disabled-children That just brought back something I heard in a conversation years ago Someone said Have you noticed Disabled Pakis are like baby pigeons you never see one 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) much the same as Geordies with a GCE then , you see plenty of Pakistanis with Disabled Badges though Edited July 16, 2015 by desertbred 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 On 16/07/2015 at 14:43, desertbred said: much the same as Geordies with a GCE then Who needs GCEs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 On 16/07/2015 at 14:47, jacknife said: On 16/07/2015 at 14:43, desertbred said: much the same as Geordies with a GCE then Who needs GCEs There speaks a scholar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 On 16/07/2015 at 14:51, desertbred said: On 16/07/2015 at 14:47, jacknife said: On 16/07/2015 at 14:43, desertbred said: much the same as Geordies with a GCE thenWho needs GCEs There speaks a scholar I have 7 GCSEs Never needed them waste of time 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 I left school at 15 with no exam qualifications and went into full time employment ... I have never needed any school qualifications and I have done ok for myself ........ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 On 14/07/2015 at 09:56, WILF said: I believe the reason is SO simple that no wants to say it or believe it mate...........but I will say it and wait for the howls from the audience. Whites, blacks, Idians, Pakistanis, Arabs etc etc etc........are not like each other !!........they have distinctly different cultures and values !! There, that's it !!! If Clacton run out of Jam and Bread in the supermarkets you won't see them descend on St Osyth and machete the population to death to get theirs !! If the local Chinese take a way owners daughter walks about in a mini skirt he won't be having a stroll to the garage to pick up 2 gallon of petrol and some battery acid !! Indians won't be queing up to have a nice steak and a beer after a day of football violence !! Everyone is very different, some cultures are more savage and primordial in a very everyday way (some ,like us, just leave the savagery to the government !) What ever else humans being will to a greater or lesser extent always play to type........they just will ! And the sooner we can be honest about it and stop trying to make it more complicated than it is or shouting "Racist" the sooner we can address the problems of forcing people together. JMHO I can't argue with that, mate. I completely accept that there are cultural differences. My issue is with equality, and by equality I mean that all people being treated the same in the eyes of the law. It's crime and shouldn't be treated any differently based on the perpetrators skin colour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ragumup Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 On 16/07/2015 at 14:05, mackem said: Cultural enrichment......... http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/591577/British-Pakistanis-13-times-more-disabled-children Mohammad married his cousin so inbreeding is fine ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 17, 2015 Report Share Posted July 17, 2015 On 17/07/2015 at 19:11, ragumup said: Mohammad married his cousin so inbreeding is fine ... The christian god is the original deadbeat dad. He knocked up a young girl and left another man to raise his kid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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