BGD 6,437 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Around blacks, never relax? What a fanny I happen to agree with you here BGD, it's very hard to have an honest and sensible conversation about racial matter when folk come out with stuff like that. I have to say while me and you are on complete opposite ends of the spectrum politically you always come across as a reasonable enough bloke Still want ye to feck off out my country though :laugh: 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Around blacks, never relax? What a fanny I happen to agree with you here BGD, it's very hard to have an honest and sensible conversation about racial matter when folk come out with stuff like that. I didn't actually write (or really even incinuate) that,just for the record. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 In the statistics over half the knife crime and gun crime in the UK is carried out in London / Manchester / West Midlands All three have a Black culture of would be gangstas and rap stars Same argument, using the same statistics. Avoid London, Manchester and the West Midlands. All three have a knife and gun culture, and they're all cities. If you had the time and inclination to research it I'm fairly sure you'd find blacks commit more violent crime % wise than pretty much any other group wherever they settle in decent numbers,Africa,USA,Canada,Europe. So if you want to avoid being the victim of violent crime should you avoid blacks? No. Avoid cities and/or large concentrations of people. Same way if you want to avoid sex crimes. Avoid 70's DJ's and pop stars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted July 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 In the statistics over half the knife crime and gun crime in the UK is carried out in London / Manchester / West Midlands All three have a Black culture of would be gangstas and rap stars Same argument, using the same statistics. Avoid London, Manchester and the West Midlands. All three have a knife and gun culture, and they're all cities. If you had the time and inclination to research it I'm fairly sure you'd find blacks commit more violent crime % wise than pretty much any other group wherever they settle in decent numbers,Africa,USA,Canada,Europe. So if you want to avoid being the victim of violent crime should you avoid blacks? No. Avoid cities and/or large concentrations of people. Same way if you want to avoid sex crimes. Avoid 70's DJ's and pop stars. I can't I need to work\live in a city,it's between 2 working class areas 1 in Tokyo and 1 in Detroit. Luckily I know now that race is just a social construct so I can go for the cheaper option. Thanks Chris. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,205 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 In the statistics over half the knife crime and gun crime in the UK is carried out in London / Manchester / West Midlands All three have a Black culture of would be gangstas and rap stars Same argument, using the same statistics. Avoid London, Manchester and the West Midlands. All three have a knife and gun culture, and they're all cities. If you had the time and inclination to research it I'm fairly sure you'd find blacks commit more violent crime % wise than pretty much any other group wherever they settle in decent numbers,Africa,USA,Canada,Europe. So if you want to avoid being the victim of violent crime should you avoid blacks? No. Avoid cities and/or large concentrations of people. Same way if you want to avoid sex crimes. Avoid 70's DJ's and pop stars. Think about that statement for a minute big lad.....is. It in any way fair that a person has to avoid their own capital city or any city so that they are not a victim of street crime by some minority ?? Yes I am well aware that cities have always been hubs if crime as it sort of gos with the territory but you are encouraging what is in fact already happening under the banner of "white flight" So as I understand it, you yourself are saying that we can not live together as one group will prey on the other? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Neems, WILF. I'm taking the piss. Of course we need to access cities. Live and work in them. I'm trying to highlight the futility of saying that crime is as simple as skin colour. There is a plethora of social issues that cause crime. One of them is massive populations of human beings. To say that removing one, based on a very deeply flawed eugenics argument, will solve it is as sensible as saying that we should simply avoid all cities and large concentrations of people. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 66 Cities in the UK not all have this problem so i dont think its the areas to blame I work in a city Newcastle luckily we dont have a big enough Black population yet but its growing and when it reaches a certain number then well probably end up with the Black gang culture here as well if its not a Black culture thing then why is it mostly Blacks involved when the population of Blacks in London is about 12% Manchester is about 9% Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 66 Cities in the UK not all have this problem so i dont think its the areas to blame I work in a city Newcastle luckily we dont have a big enough Black population yet but its growing and when it reaches a certain number then well probably end up with the Black gang culture here as well What about Glasgow? The estates in Liverpool? Manchester? The rough white working class seaside towns? All have major problems with violent crime committed by whites. Seriously ChrisJones couldn't of put it better in his post above. Read it and try and learn something 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 48,205 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Neems, WILF. I'm taking the piss. Of course we need to access cities. Live and work in them. I'm trying to highlight the futility of saying that crime is as simple as skin colour. There is a plethora of social issues that cause crime. One of them is massive populations of human beings. To say that removing one, based on a very deeply flawed eugenics argument, will solve it is as sensible as saying that we should simply avoid all cities and large concentrations of people. Ahh....received loud and clear mate Now obviously, no one is stupid enough to think that by removing sections of the population you would do away with crime.......it's obvious that if you removed all incomers from England then 100% of the crime would be committed by white british people........that's a no brainer mate. However, they would be OUR problems to sort out.......I have said many times that we need to sort our own act out big time. Let be honest, if your plane gets hijacked and flown into the pentagon chances are the bloke responsible isn't going to be a 45 year old white church goer accountant from Cleveland........same as if you get mugged at 2 in the morning at Elephant and Castle it's probably not going to be a 30 something stockbroker from Guildford doing it. Let's be honest, these minorities are the ones doing these crime.......I know it, you know it, the police know it........every f****r knows it.......but no one wants to just say it ! It doesn't have to mean that you have to hate all black folks or Muslims but let's be honest at least. At the moment we are trying to sweep it under the carpet and calling it tolerance IMHO 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Neems, WILF. I'm taking the piss. Of course we need to access cities. Live and work in them. I'm trying to highlight the futility of saying that crime is as simple as skin colour. There is a plethora of social issues that cause crime. One of them is massive populations of human beings. To say that removing one, based on a very deeply flawed eugenics argument, will solve it is as sensible as saying that we should simply avoid all cities and large concentrations of people. what other issues? culture? a racial construct. poverty? some racial groups always have and always will outperform others. the tension is building here,and this is at a time when we have more than we have ever had and probably ever will have,comfort makes us inert for now. This can't go on,there are no old multi-racial societies for a reason. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jacknife 2,005 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 66 Cities in the UK not all have this problem so i dont think its the areas to blame I work in a city Newcastle luckily we dont have a big enough Black population yet but its growing and when it reaches a certain number then well probably end up with the Black gang culture here as well What about Glasgow? The estates in Liverpool? Manchester? The rough white working class seaside towns? All have major problems with violent crime committed by whites. Seriously ChrisJones couldn't of put it better in his post above. Read it and try and learn something I agree these places have violent White people But that still doesnt change the fact that most stabbing are carried out by Black people or Black on Black crime as the police call it I didnt come up with the statistics that over half of all knife crime comes from these 3 areas 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,437 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Neems, WILF. I'm taking the piss. Of course we need to access cities. Live and work in them. I'm trying to highlight the futility of saying that crime is as simple as skin colour. There is a plethora of social issues that cause crime. One of them is massive populations of human beings. To say that removing one, based on a very deeply flawed eugenics argument, will solve it is as sensible as saying that we should simply avoid all cities and large concentrations of people. Ahh....received loud and clear mate Now obviously, no one is stupid enough to think that by removing sections of the population you would do away with crime.......it's obvious that if you removed all incomers from England then 100% of the crime would be committed by white british people........that's a no brainer mate. However, they would be OUR problems to sort out.......I have said many times that we need to sort our own act out big time. Let be honest, if your plane gets hijacked and flown into the pentagon chances are the bloke responsible isn't going to be a 45 year old white church goer accountant from Cleveland........same as if you get mugged at 2 in the morning at Elephant and Castle it's probably not going to be a 30 something stockbroker from Guildford doing it. Let's be honest, these minorities are the ones doing these crime.......I know it, you know it, the police know it........every f****r knows it.......but no one wants to just say it ! It doesn't have to mean that you have to hate all black folks or Muslims but let's be honest at least. At the moment we are trying to sweep it under the carpet and calling it tolerance IMHO Actually you're more likely to die in a terrorist attack committed by a white right wing extremist than a muslim in America Hard to disagree with the rest of your post though, its a fact that more blacks commit violent crime than whites. What I'm interested in is the reasons behind it, "their skin is a different colour" doesn't wash with me. Neither does the cultural argument when these black gang member types in London are usually among the most assimilated of all ethnic groups (the recent influx of Somali gangsters is totally different, look where they come from of course they're going to be some heartless c**ts!) Put it this way - I think if you raised a white child in the same environment as these poverty stricken inner city blacks they'd be just as likely to commit violent crime as each other and I believe what you can observe in the real world backs that up Edited July 14, 2015 by BGD 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJones 7,975 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Ahh....received loud and clear mate Now obviously, no one is stupid enough to think that by removing sections of the population you would do away with crime.......it's obvious that if you removed all incomers from England then 100% of the crime would be committed by white british people........that's a no brainer mate. However, they would be OUR problems to sort out.......I have said many times that we need to sort our own act out big time. Let be honest, if your plane gets hijacked and flown into the pentagon chances are the bloke responsible isn't going to be a 45 year old white church goer accountant from Cleveland........same as if you get mugged at 2 in the morning at Elephant and Castle it's probably not going to be a 30 something stockbroker from Guildford doing it. Let's be honest, these minorities are the ones doing these crime.......I know it, you know it, the police know it........every f****r knows it.......but no one wants to just say it ! It doesn't have to mean that you have to hate all black folks or Muslims but let's be honest at least. At the moment we are trying to sweep it under the carpet and calling it tolerance IMHO I know what you're saying with street level crime. You know it, I know it, the police know it, you're absolutely correct but it's a multi facetted problem through all levels of society. The problem is the criminal is being pointed at as the sole reason for societies ills. We're right to point, but surely you must be open to the idea that there is also a cause, and that we're not looking at the whole problem for an adequate solution. Some people are narrowing it even further, and further, looking for a simple, quick fix. You know, I know, and the police know that it's not that simple. One major problem, as I see it, is at the governmental and enforcement level. Those making the rules and those that are tying the hands of those enforcing the rules. Instead of pigeon holing it as asian, black, polish, whateverish, crime. Simply accept it for what it is. Crime. Enforce it regardless of who is committing it. But then we go into the causes of crime... As we've both discussed, that's a whole other monster... what other issues? Seriously? Race? That's it? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Look at the above post likes the same trio of pratts every time. Murder. stabbing , assault are all crimes against people irrespective of creed cast or colour. you lads ever work for Dulux you are all fond of colour charts by the shite you post. And its always the same three pratts defending anything connected to blacks/asians/muslims........regardless of hard facts My youngest boy's worked the doors for a couple of years, they've had a handful of knife incidents, and confiscated knuckle dusters.........ect, he tells me he's never taken anything off a white kid, every weapon incident involved blacks or asians.............time to admit its a problem in these communities and stop burying your heads in the sand. Read the post I said irrespective of creed cast or colour but your head must beup your backside You ignore the statistics about these crimes and who's most likely to carry them out, and its me who's "got my head up my arse" Maybe we should move on to the "honour crimes" 11,000 reasons to mention that last year, but its probably just some white supremists juggling the figures eh Edited July 14, 2015 by Truther 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desertbred 5,490 Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Definately head up your arse "white Supremacists" indeed your a clown Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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