A Bit Of Enrichment For The Mp's To Enjoy

[jacknife 2,005]

I know a lad who is getting stopped 40% tax on his pit pension as that combined with his salary as a demolition site manager takes him into that bracket of tax same as he told me you work pay into pension shcemes on money earned that you have already paid tax on to be hammerd again in tax.

he will pay tax but not all is taxed at 40% just the amount over the 20% tax bracket is taxed at the higher amount

 

My mother gets a pension and gets part of my late fathers pension

 

She pays tax on the money she gets....like you say they both paid tax when working

[WILF 47,505]

I have said this before, but everyone can forget "doing their bit" as far as tax is concerned, let's view it as what it actually is which is state sanctioned seizure of a persons assets.

 

No different from an RSPCA officer being in no way an officer, they are a charity worker.

 

Let's forget the euphemisms and call it what it is !!

 

Immigration is purely dilution of a group so that they dont then form a common moral opinion and stop taking shit......it's the oldest military trick in the book, devide and conquer !!

 

Do we honestly think that politicians don't know the problems immigration causes a traditional culture, that they don't realise that it weakens and destroys?.......do we honestly think they have no idea of the associated problems these groups of people bring with them?

 

Come off it, of course they know, it's why they want them here.

Edited July 24, 2015 by WILF

[Born Hunter 17,798]

But Wilf, does it really matter how we portray tax? The crux of it is this, no tax = no state. So, the logical question is; do you want to live in a stateless system?

 

Not liking the details of the current system is different, but just flatly painting tax as evil and wrong can only lead us to the above, no?

[WILF 47,505]

But Wilf, does it really matter how we portray tax? The crux of it is this, no tax = no state. So, the logical question is; do you want to live in a stateless system?

 

Not liking the details of the current system is different, but just flatly painting tax as evil and wrong can only lead us to the above, no?

Much less tax=much less state is what I am advocating.

 

It will truly give people more freedom to right the wrongs being done to them, and believe me, there are some wrongs going on on a scale that is unbelievable.

 

Give people back their culture, give them back their morality and responsibility.

 

Mate, if a lite firm want to get protection money out of you they dont come round and directly threaten you and demand it (not if they have any sense)....no, what they do is get a load if scumbags to make your life a f***ing living misery.

Then they turn up in the guise of a friend and gently tell you that if you look after them a little bit they will do you a favour and make the problem go away........gradually the demands get bigger but they will always remind you with a smile that "you don't want to go back to the bad old days do you?"

 

Immigration and distruction of culture are the scumbag crew

 

Tax and the government are the gangster.

 

We,unfortunately, are the poor shop owner

[Born Hunter 17,798]

I'm quite happy to pay for a centralised government, a state based around a sense of belonging and common interest. Like you though, not at the expense of my liberties or ultimately at the expense of those common interests that are the reason for the existence of the state.

 

I've said it before and I'll sound like a deep south septic and say it again. When we gave up our right to bear arms, we gave up our right to freedom. Freedom became a privilege and privileges are not of our control.

[WILF 47,505]

I'm quite happy to pay for a centralised government, a state based around a sense of belonging and common interest. Like you though, not at the expense of my liberties or ultimately at the expense of those common interests that are the reason for the existence of the state.

 

I've said it before and I'll sound like a deep south septic and say it again. When we gave up our right to bear arms, we gave up our right to freedom. Freedom became a privilege and privileges are not of our control.

I am sure most feel the same, but the fact is, that's not what we have......when you dig and see the actual scale of the corruption it makes you loose all faith.

[Born Hunter 17,798]

I know what you mean Max. But I still feel like I belong here, I still feel like we have a common interest and desire to see my British family do well. Many of my friends have said I should emigrate to Canada or Oz, but they're not my people.

[WILF 47,505]

Depends where you move to I suppose mate

[twobob 1,497]

I don't have any problem with people earning millions, they should be subject to exactly the same rates and rules as everyone else.......that's fair.

What I do object to is the CEO of J.P.Morgan making over a $150 million dollars a year, gambling with the whole worlds economy, paying government to let them do it and then expecting the billions of ordinary people who's money he has gambled away to bail him out with their tax money and the governments happy to let them do it........and still letting them do it !!

 

That's not business, they are not playing with their own money same as governments don't , it's just f***ing about at the expense of others and paying yourself the kind of money dreams are made of to do it !!

told you that 3 year since when you was still a tory

[WILF 47,505]

No, what you were in about as I remember was a load of old socialist twaddle........which is just again, one section of the populace feeding off the other.

[shepp 2,285]

 

I don't have any problem with people earning millions, they should be subject to exactly the same rates and rules as everyone else.......that's fair.

What I do object to is the CEO of J.P.Morgan making over a $150 million dollars a year, gambling with the whole worlds economy, paying government to let them do it and then expecting the billions of ordinary people who's money he has gambled away to bail him out with their tax money and the governments happy to let them do it........and still letting them do it !!

That's not business, they are not playing with their own money same as governments don't , it's just f***ing about at the expense of others and paying yourself the kind of money dreams are made of to do it !!

 

told you that 3 year since when you was still a tory

It all happened under a Labour government.

[unlacedgecko 1,466]

This small child with the intelligence of a dog has done very well for himself

 

So its not something that will concern me ☺

 

Someone of your superior intelligence has obviously done very very well

Want to let me in on the secret, as I'm stuck driving a f***ing truck!

[Silversnake 1,099]

 

But Wilf, does it really matter how we portray tax? The crux of it is this, no tax = no state. So, the logical question is; do you want to live in a stateless system?

 

Not liking the details of the current system is different, but just flatly painting tax as evil and wrong can only lead us to the above, no?

Much less tax=much less state is what I am advocating.

 

It will truly give people more freedom to right the wrongs being done to them, and believe me, there are some wrongs going on on a scale that is unbelievable.

 

Give people back their culture, give them back their morality and responsibility.

 

Mate, if a lite firm want to get protection money out of you they dont come round and directly threaten you and demand it (not if they have any sense)....no, what they do is get a load if scumbags to make your life a f***ing living misery.

Then they turn up in the guise of a friend and gently tell you that if you look after them a little bit they will do you a favour and make the problem go away........gradually the demands get bigger but they will always remind you with a smile that "you don't want to go back to the bad old days do you?"

 

Immigration and distruction of culture are the scumbag crew

 

Tax and the government are the gangster.

 

We,unfortunately, are the poor shop owner

Those who will trade a little bit of freedom for a little bit of liberty will lose both and deserve neither

[twobob 1,497]

No, what you were in about as I remember was a load of old socialist twaddle........which is just again, one section of the populace feeding off the other.

no wilf how was it any different to what the bankers did here????????

[WILF 47,505]

It was the same companies mate......helped in no small measure by the politicians both sides of the Atlantic.