Blackbriar 8,569 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Will other countries take measures of their own ? Hungary MPs approve border fence and anti-migrant law - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33421093 Edited July 7, 2015 by Blackbriar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sussex 5,777 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 In short NO ...we not allowed to by EU (German &French) law and we play by the rules even if that's detrimental to the country ....the sooner we dump that the better , I wont be holding my breath till they do . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Onlyworkmatters 1,584 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Good for them, those seeking asylum are supposed to seek it in the 1st safe country they enter after leaving their homeland 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Wouldn't have minded the fencing contract...? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,233 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Wouldn't have minded the fencing contract... They probably want it to last though ! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peterhunter86 8,627 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Good for them, those seeking asylum are supposed to seek it in the 1st safe country they enter after leaving their homelandI agree, the only problem is that most of the burden would then fall on Italy and Greece. Surely it would be better if they were all stopped before landing on any European soil? Most of them aren't genuine asylum seekers anyway, they are economic migrants.Hungary is doing the sensible thing for its own people and country because the EU won't take a harder stance, no worse than the French trying to shovel them over the channel to us. I've just had a thought, why don't we crate up all our illegals and send them to Ireland? If they wanted to be here they'd be here what's to stop them any fool with half a brain would of said say send them back we're they come from Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leegreen 2,180 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Hungary, the cheapest place in Europe to buy property. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Wouldn't have minded the fencing contract...They probably want it to last though ! Cheeky coont....? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackbriar 8,569 Posted July 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Good for them, those seeking asylum are supposed to seek it in the 1st safe country they enter after leaving their homelandI agree, the only problem is that most of the burden would then fall on Italy and Greece. Surely it would be better if they were all stopped before landing on any European soil? Most of them aren't genuine asylum seekers anyway, they are economic migrants.Hungary is doing the sensible thing for its own people and country because the EU won't take a harder stance, no worse than the French trying to shovel them over the channel to us. I've just had a thought, why don't we crate up all our illegals and send them to Ireland?Under maritime law, the boats from North Africa can be returned to the port they left from, or to the nearest port. If naval ships got to them quickly, it would be perfectly legal to escort them back to Libya - obviously, this is too risky for unarmed commercial ships, who are responding to distress calls (as they are required to), but there isn't, in theory at least, any reason why the Royal Navy or the Italian Coast Guard can't just tow them back to where they came from. In theory.........in reality, European policy seems to be "don't bother trying to smuggle yourself in - we'll send a boat to pick you up and drop you off ! Free of charge, of course. No, honestly, don't mention it !" Edited July 7, 2015 by Blackbriar Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 the best policy is a fleet of well armed boats patrolling the med and any bunch of floating turds should be blown out the water 50 cal bullets are cheaper than letting them come here once youv e sunk a few there stop coming ,the more you give them the more they will want and more will come 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lenmcharristar 9,820 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 the best policy is a fleet of well armed boats patrolling the med and any bunch of floating turds should be blown out the water 50 cal bullets are cheaper than letting them come here once youv e sunk a few there stop coming ,the more you give them the more they will want and more will come a million likes for this post, send it to the pm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,233 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 the best policy is a fleet of well armed boats patrolling the med and any bunch of floating turds should be blown out the water 50 cal bullets are cheaper than letting them come here once youv e sunk a few there stop coming ,the more you give them the more they will want and more will come the best policy is a fleet of well armed boats patrolling the med and any bunch of floating turds should be blown out the water 50 cal bullets are cheaper than letting them come here once youv e sunk a few there stop coming ,the more you give them the more they will want and more will come My father in law was in the Royal Navy years ago, spent a lot of time on patrol boats out of Hong Kong.....the Chinese refugees used to try and get across and the Chinese navy would blast them, my father in law always says "these poor fuckers had nothing so we would blast the Chinese navy at every opportunity and try and save these people".........so there it is, it's in our nature to help folk but the fuckers we have here already have taken the piss. It's a conundrum, that's for sure. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neems 2,406 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 the best policy is a fleet of well armed boats patrolling the med and any bunch of floating turds should be blown out the water 50 cal bullets are cheaper than letting them come here once youv e sunk a few there stop coming ,the more you give them the more they will want and more will come No-ones going to shoot them unfortunately,a mandatory IQ test with those scoring below 100 being sent back would work,very few Africans would pass let alone whole families. we are supposed to be a meritocracy aren't we? I think it's justifiable that the same standards apply to immigration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,780 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 the best policy is a fleet of well armed boats patrolling the med and any bunch of floating turds should be blown out the water 50 cal bullets are cheaper than letting them come here once youv e sunk a few there stop coming ,the more you give them the more they will want and more will come the best policy is a fleet of well armed boats patrolling the med and any bunch of floating turds should be blown out the water 50 cal bullets are cheaper than letting them come here once youv e sunk a few there stop coming ,the more you give them the more they will want and more will come My father in law was in the Royal Navy years ago, spent a lot of time on patrol boats out of Hong Kong.....the Chinese refugees used to try and get across and the Chinese navy would blast them, my father in law always says "these poor fuckers had nothing so we would blast the Chinese navy at every opportunity and try and save these people".........so there it is, it's in our nature to help folk but the fuckers we have here already have taken the piss. It's a conundrum, that's for sure. I think as soon as we start talking about sinking immigrant ships we lose all credibility in a debate. I think it's possible to take a firm stance without having to kill innocents. As shown in your example Wilf, generally we are a compassionate people. (As an aside your father in law sounds like he would have a few great stories to share having served in the RN at such a time). I'm not sure exactly how great the magnitude of this particular problem is but a European maritime force could be deployed with marines forcibly boarding all suspect ships and turning them back to their place of origin. Zero tolerance, no exemptions for any ships that can't satisfactorily prove a legitimate purpose. This sort of thing is bread and butter to the RN, they do it day in day out in the Gulf of Aden/Indian Ocean and the Caribbean. Pathetically few frigates and a weak international impetus though probably won't see this done properly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
treecreeper 1,136 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 There's a saying don't hate the players hate the game. You can't blame anyone for wanting and trying to get a better life for themselves or their kids the trouble is we shouldn't be paying for it because of soft arse politicians an the eu. Stop it being worth it and most of them will stop coming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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