Rez 4,961 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Im toying with the idea of applying for my ticket, done the forms and its all ready to go, perms are set and target club primed. Ive shot a friends Browning T-Bolt 16.5 Target Varmint and I like it, both in my shoulder and down range, so Ill perhaps head that way for the rifle in 22LR. Whats the beef with 'munitions? Any recommendations? It'll be used for both target and field work. I dont want anything to fast and most defiantly subsonic but pretty accurate. Tar. As an edit, I shot Eley subs Xtra in the rifle and they seemed pretty fine. 1 Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 All down to that particular rifle mate. No 2 barrels are the same believe it or not. I personally use Winchester subs and have also had good results with eley subs. But buy 50 of each your local sells and give them a test on paper. 3 Quote Link to post
Rowan 308 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 CZ452 and Winchester subs = happy days. 1 Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 CZ452 and Winchester subs = happy days. Absolutely my brno mod 2 (old cz) loves winnie subs but prefers eley. Just eley cost alot more lol 1 Quote Link to post
samboy 314 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Had my CZ452 10 yrs with no probs, just tweaked the trigger, easy enough job and use winnie subs. Spot on. 1 Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted July 6, 2015 Report Share Posted July 6, 2015 Had my CZ452 10 yrs with no probs, just tweaked the trigger, easy enough job and use winnie subs. Spot on. Mines 39 years old 1 Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 https://youtu.be/vFPywYD-s7I Worth a watch mate 2 Quote Link to post
Coypu Hunter 486 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Winchester Super X subsonic hollowpoints get the job done. However, if you see 'em in a red plastic box of 100 at a good price, pass on by, they're inaccurate. Go for the proper jobs in black boxes of 50. Remington hollowpoint subs are cheaper than Winnies, but shockingly inaccurate -- avoid like the plague. Lapua sells its Akah subsonic range (X-Zone and X-Target) over here, and they're very good -- the Targets are as accurate as Winchesters through my Zastava at 65 yards (one-inch groups). The Zones are slightly better, under one inch at that range. They're both LRNs (Lead Round Nose), which some would regard as unsuitable for hunting. I use them on coypus though, and they do the job. I do get overpenetration at under 35 yards, but then I sometimes get that with Winchesters too, depending on the shot angle. Aguila Super Extra subs don't group for me. Haven't found any Eley subs over here to try yet, but I've read many good reports about them. 1 Quote Link to post
sussex 5,777 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Has any one had a problem with recycling the spent case on Winchester subs (black box ) as opposed to the old blue box ones .? ..my CZ works perfectly using subs from the blue box but not from the black ... 1 Quote Link to post
hutchey 147 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Odd that you mention that Rich, yes i've had a few like that recently. Thought it was just down to dirt in the mechanism etc 1 Quote Link to post
Coypu Hunter 486 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 No, not with Winchesters. The only cartridge that doesn't load or eject easily for me is CCI subs -- their cases seem to be a little oversized. Quote Link to post
sussex 5,777 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Odd that you mention that Rich, yes i've had a few like that recently. Thought it was just down to dirt in the mechanism etc That was my initial thought , but having checked and cleaned the rifle it made no difference , still won't eject the ones from the black boxes ...have Winchester changed the spec ? Quote Link to post
toxo 160 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Has any one had a problem with recycling the spent case on Winchester subs (black box ) as opposed to the old blue box ones .? ..my CZ works perfectly using subs from the blue box but not from the black ... In my Annie 1417 I find that if i do it fairly vigorously they come out fine but if I try to baby it they lay in the chamber. Quote Link to post
Tron 173 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 Winchester subsonics are brilliant, I also used to use cb ammo when shooting up trees for pigeon and squirrels as they were much safer with just about 30 fpe. but with the winchester rounds on damp mornings all you could hear was a hiss as they left the moderator and a click of the firing pin. 2 Quote Link to post
shropshire dan 467 Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 (edited) Don't be telling to many people about shooting up trees bud. Don't want to be giving folk ideas lol Edited July 7, 2015 by shropshire dan Quote Link to post
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