Irish Staffs

[gnasher16 30,106]

Some people do prefer a shy dog.....not a physical runt of course but ive heard many good conditioners say they prefer to work with shy dogs as you become their whole focus in life and all the fears/doubts they have about the world are taken away by you once trust and a bond is formed and they will go that extra mile for you.........some are just too shy to even form a bond but thats the challenge as a dogman and in my opinion its often worth the effort.....sadly many dogs have been given up on by impatience of this nature.

Edited August 3, 2015 by gnasher16

[Zilverhaze 1,627]

I kept the runt and the biggest out of my first litter the runt matured in to a really nice dog and enterd well my theory for keeping it was he's smaller than the rest so has to work harder than the rest to get food harder than the rest when play fighting and genraly has a up hill climb from the off putting him in good footings from the future

[dare 1,103]

Yeah this dog i mentioned was like nothing i had seen before but never seen anyone who kept a real large amount of dogs. Was embarassing walking him if someone went to stroke him when out hed get down real low as if been beaten. Same as if a bus or something went past. Wouldnt flinch or anything though and when pointed out why it was like that you could tell it was different to being abused. That I guess was shyness which is probably different to not being able to build a bond? Have seen a dog who was far from shy but owner reckoned he couldnt get the dog to bond with him. Dunno what he meant though really as ive never had a dog like that.

 

Ever seen that lion cub from harrods? I swear thats as close to it as ill ever get lol. Was beautiful watching the dog in a field on a hot summers day be an actual dog. Looked so happy just running around getting attention from a few mates who id dragged on the walk with me.

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Choosing between a shy pup and a bold one comes down to the temperament of the owner, IMO.

 

 

A big rough voiced hairy arsed c**t isn't going to gel well with a shy sensitive dog just as a quiet, shy owner won't gel as well with a bold, confident dog. Generally speaking of course

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Choosing between a shy pup and a bold one comes down to the temperament of the owner, IMO.

 

 

A big rough voiced hairy arsed c**t isn't going to gel well with a shy sensitive dog just as a quiet, shy owner won't gel as well with a bold, confident dog. Generally speaking of course

the threads about Staffordshire Bull Terriers isnt it?...in my opinion they should be bold confident and out going...a trait of the breed...surley people would want to own a good all round representative of the breed...who would really want to sink a chunk of their lives into a runty shy nervy dog...you have a choice...you dont have to buy any dog...so why not get the best you can...theres no guarantees...so why narrow your chances by starting out with a poor example of the breed...sounds a bit Disney all this runt done good

[gnasher16 30,106]

Choosing between a shy pup and a bold one comes down to the temperament of the owner, IMO.

 

 

A big rough voiced hairy arsed c**t isn't going to gel well with a shy sensitive dog just as a quiet, shy owner won't gel as well with a bold, confident dog. Generally speaking of course

I couldnt agree with that dogs dont rationalise like people if a rough voiced hairy arsed c**t is all they know i dont think it matters if its a timid dog or not........i remember years ago i tried to get around a timid dog with no joy......so i sent the dog to stay at my softly spoken kind caring girlfriends place.....the dog couldnt stand her and even preferred me to her .....i think its more how you go about things than your physical presence.

[dare 1,103]

With shyness in dogs is alot of it down to the owners? no doubt you get dogs who just have it in em to be shy abit like man biters. Can it be fixed though? Didnt see this dog as a pup but it may not of been shy if the owner didnt have so many dogs that he couldnt put as much time in as i could.

 

What is meant aswell by not having a bond with the dog? every bull breed ive meet has loved people. Couldnt imagine one not bonding. Someone told me once that they cant get the dog to bond with em. Wasnt shy at all would come running and jump all over ya so it loved people. Just never had a dog myself that there wasnt a bond with. Could of called any of mine shadow the way they was lol.

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Choosing between a shy pup and a bold one comes down to the temperament of the owner, IMO.

 

 

A big rough voiced hairy arsed c**t isn't going to gel well with a shy sensitive dog just as a quiet, shy owner won't gel as well with a bold, confident dog. Generally speaking of course

I couldnt agree with that dogs dont rationalise like people if a rough voiced hairy arsed c**t is all they know i dont think it matters if its a timid dog or not........i remember years ago i tried to get around a timid dog with no joy......so i sent the dog to stay at my softly spoken kind caring girlfriends place.....the dog couldnt stand her and even preferred me to her .....i think its more how you go about things than your physical presence.

Maybe you're just softer than you think

 

No I do see what you mean, if they've only had good experiences with their rough hairy arsed owner I guess even a timid dog would be comfortable with them.

[gnasher16 30,106]

 

 

Choosing between a shy pup and a bold one comes down to the temperament of the owner, IMO.

 

 

A big rough voiced hairy arsed c**t isn't going to gel well with a shy sensitive dog just as a quiet, shy owner won't gel as well with a bold, confident dog. Generally speaking of course

I couldnt agree with that dogs dont rationalise like people if a rough voiced hairy arsed c**t is all they know i dont think it matters if its a timid dog or not........i remember years ago i tried to get around a timid dog with no joy......so i sent the dog to stay at my softly spoken kind caring girlfriends place.....the dog couldnt stand her and even preferred me to her .....i think its more how you go about things than your physical presence.

Maybe you're just softer than you think

 

No I do see what you mean, if they've only had good experiences with their rough hairy arsed owner I guess even a timid dog would be comfortable with them.

 

I have my pink moments like anyone else

 

I always found that part of the challenge with dogs the fact they are just flesh and bone means they always keep us guessing

[jeemes 4,483]

Theres a difference I think in quiet and timid. If you have other dogs the shy one can cause tension when you have to keep coaxing and cajoling. The worst thing to do with a shy one is try too hard to be its best mate. Best to let them find out you are a friend by being fare and calm around them.They respect calm and confidence. This kind of relationship can work better with one man one dog,but doesnt do so well when there are numbers of dogs. The timid dog often prefers dogs to people,and has I say can cause a lot of tension. The truly timid dog is a poor thing to breed from. It is quite a serious problem imo in strains of Bullterriers.

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Choosing between a shy pup and a bold one comes down to the temperament of the owner, IMO.

 

 

A big rough voiced hairy arsed c**t isn't going to gel well with a shy sensitive dog just as a quiet, shy owner won't gel as well with a bold, confident dog. Generally speaking of course

I couldnt agree with that dogs dont rationalise like people if a rough voiced hairy arsed c**t is all they know i dont think it matters if its a timid dog or not........i remember years ago i tried to get around a timid dog with no joy......so i sent the dog to stay at my softly spoken kind caring girlfriends place.....the dog couldnt stand her and even preferred me to her .....i think its more how you go about things than your physical presence.

Maybe you're just softer than you think

 

No I do see what you mean, if they've only had good experiences with their rough hairy arsed owner I guess even a timid dog would be comfortable with them.

I have my pink moments like anyone else

 

I always found that part of the challenge with dogs the fact they are just flesh and bone means they always keep us guessing

Its what to this day keeps me as interested in (or obsessed with ) dogs as I was when I was a kid, still always learning new things and being surprised by them

[delboy_187 902]

 

 

 

. How often do you get to look and first choice of a full litter unless it's your own or your dog sired the litter.

 

Planning mate...as simple as that...last pup i got...i waited years until a certain dog was put over a certain bitch...got myself to the head of the queue so to speak

you said queue so I take it you didn't own either of them mate and did those breeding the pair not hold any back for themselves then

as i remember it the whole litter was gifted out...

see the curl on that

[dare 1,103]

It is deffo an obsession lol I havent had a staff in a few years now. Still cant help but walk past a decent looking dog n wonder how itll look in better shape. Or look at forums and have a read. In my opinion no other dogs compare, and if i won the lottery id still have a huge house with aload of em. Some what kept me out of trouble aswell being so obsessed with the dogs. Plus would just get out the area n go places id have no reason too and walk the dog. Know exactly where that house would be if i won the lottery because of the dog walking lol either enysford or westerham for me.

[Zilverhaze 1,627]

 

 

 

 

. How often do you get to look and first choice of a full litter unless it's your own or your dog sired the litter.

Planning mate...as simple as that...last pup i got...i waited years until a certain dog was put over a certain bitch...got myself to the head of the queue so to speak

you said queue so I take it you didn't own either of them mate and did those breeding the pair not hold any back for themselves then

as i remember it the whole litter was gifted out...

see the curl on that

Waited years for a certain dog and bitch to be lined and they was all gifted out and none kept back I can't see how anyone whuld ever put ther bitch threw a pregnancy and not keep nothin back for ther selvs and gift the lot away that sounds a lot more Disney than a runt making a decent dog unless money was involved

[delboy_187 902]

 

 

 

 

 

. How often do you get to look and first choice of a full litter unless it's your own or your dog sired the litter.

Planning mate...as simple as that...last pup i got...i waited years until a certain dog was put over a certain bitch...got myself to the head of the queue so to speak

you said queue so I take it you didn't own either of them mate and did those breeding the pair not hold any back for themselves then

as i remember it the whole litter was gifted out...

see the curl on that

Waited years for a certain dog and bitch to be lined and they was all gifted out and none kept back I can't see how anyone whuld ever put ther bitch threw a pregnancy and not keep nothin back for ther selvs and gift the lot away that sounds a lot more Disney than a runt making a decent dog unless money was involved

whoop there tis