WEDGEY 753 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Very unusual?? And ugly as well,people will cross anything for a few bucks 1 Quote Link to post
undertaker 831 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Basically mongrels 1 Quote Link to post
Lenmcharristar 9,813 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Irish SBTs ,,is just bloodlines ,,just as well for the Irish breeders ,,,the sbts from uk are just pets ,,, show dog ,,,no one here can name one good one in past 25 years ,,, as for merle ,,,has to be something mixed in to get merle ,,its not a stafford colour.... it was banned by KC in the breed ,,, its the Shetland sheep dog in him haha Quote Link to post
lee 99 Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 It seems beanie 2 and 3 produced far better dogs than themselfs...... 4 Quote Link to post
delboy_187 904 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) so yous have got one of them leopard dogs? Or the dog yous have is an Import? We had a merle staff nit its gran sire was half collie, looked spit of yoursno don't own one mate that's how the colour came about in the pitts.years of breading sure there sites purely for merel pitts. They can't be ikc or akc cause not pure breed only merel mastiff aloud to reg is the great dane. As i said i don't own him mate does.del Edited July 29, 2015 by delboy_187 Quote Link to post
BGD 6,436 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) A few lines of APBT carry the merle gene, whether from crosses to Catahoula's or collie types in the early days of the breed. Breeders just cull them as a matter of course because it's a "fault" with the breed. I've even known so called working bulldog breeders cull merle pups at birth because they didn't want it getting out that their line carried merle... If delboy's mate wants to breed some pretty merle pets I say crack on, nothing wrong with breeding pet dogs for colour/looks, IMO Edited July 29, 2015 by BGD 2 Quote Link to post
snizle06 202 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 Unusual colour if he does what he wants I wouldn't worry about the colour a lot of famous lines of bulls of all colours that are proper rubbish. 1 Quote Link to post
antg 1,777 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 It seems beanie 2 and 3 produced far better dogs than themselfs...... b3 certainly produced some fine dogs. 2 Quote Link to post
Carlovian 592 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 A few lines of APBT carry the merle gene, whether from crosses to Catahoula's or collie types in the early days of the breed. Breeders just cull them as a matter of course because it's a "fault" with the breed. I've even known so called working bulldog breeders cull merle pups at birth because they didn't want it getting out that their line carried merle... If delboy's mate wants to breed some pretty merle pets I say crack on, nothing wrong with breeding pet dogs for colour/looks, IMO No APBTs ever come merle , if they come that colour , they are not APBTs ,,,some mut has being added 2 Quote Link to post
undertaker 831 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Destroying the breed for money.it happen in nearly every nowbreef.bred for shows and money Edited July 29, 2015 by undertaker Quote Link to post
peterhunter86 8,627 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 Destroying the breed for money.it happen in nearly every nowbreef.bred for shows and money Says the peddler 1 Quote Link to post
BGD 6,436 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 A few lines of APBT carry the merle gene, whether from crosses to Catahoula's or collie types in the early days of the breed. Breeders just cull them as a matter of course because it's a "fault" with the breed. I've even known so called working bulldog breeders cull merle pups at birth because they didn't want it getting out that their line carried merle... If delboy's mate wants to breed some pretty merle pets I say crack on, nothing wrong with breeding pet dogs for colour/looks, IMO No APBTs ever come merle , if they come that colour , they are not APBTs ,,,some mut has being added I've heard first hand from dogmen in America of the odd merle popping up in some litters never heard of one being allowed to grow on though. If it didn't pop up from time to time in APBT lines why would they bother to explicitly ban the colour in the standard? It pops up in some lines but it's undesirable because it shows a link to the general purpose farm bulldogs used as backcrosses in the early days of the breed. It doesn't make dogs expressing the merle gene any less pure though, just an out of standard colour. Of course this is all irrelevant because delboy himself said his mates dog is a crossbred bulldog type dog not pure APBT 1 Quote Link to post
neil cooney 10,416 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 Maybe I've been on a different wave length all these years BUT isn't breeding for colour and looks the main reason so many breeds have been ruined ?????? 8 Quote Link to post
Carlovian 592 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 A few lines of APBT carry the merle gene, whether from crosses to Catahoula's or collie types in the early days of the breed. Breeders just cull them as a matter of course because it's a "fault" with the breed. I've even known so called working bulldog breeders cull merle pups at birth because they didn't want it getting out that their line carried merle... If delboy's mate wants to breed some pretty merle pets I say crack on, nothing wrong with breeding pet dogs for colour/looks, IMO No APBTs ever come merle , if they come that colour , they are not APBTs ,,,some mut has being added I've heard first hand from dogmen in America of the odd merle popping up in some litters never heard of one being allowed to grow on though. If it didn't pop up from time to time in APBT lines why would they bother to explicitly ban the colour in the standard? It pops up in some lines but it's undesirable because it shows a link to the general purpose farm bulldogs used as backcrosses in the early days of the breed. It doesn't make dogs expressing the merle gene any less pure though, just an out of standard colour. Of course this is all irrelevant because delboy himself said his mates dog is a crossbred bulldog type dog not pure APBT It only a modern thing ,,that colour has been added ,,no APBT can come that colour ,,,its banned because any dog that has it is not a pure bred APBT ,,, Quote Link to post
BGD 6,436 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 A few lines of APBT carry the merle gene, whether from crosses to Catahoula's or collie types in the early days of the breed. Breeders just cull them as a matter of course because it's a "fault" with the breed. I've even known so called working bulldog breeders cull merle pups at birth because they didn't want it getting out that their line carried merle... If delboy's mate wants to breed some pretty merle pets I say crack on, nothing wrong with breeding pet dogs for colour/looks, IMO No APBTs ever come merle , if they come that colour , they are not APBTs ,,,some mut has being added I've heard first hand from dogmen in America of the odd merle popping up in some litters never heard of one being allowed to grow on though. If it didn't pop up from time to time in APBT lines why would they bother to explicitly ban the colour in the standard? It pops up in some lines but it's undesirable because it shows a link to the general purpose farm bulldogs used as backcrosses in the early days of the breed. It doesn't make dogs expressing the merle gene any less pure though, just an out of standard colour. Of course this is all irrelevant because delboy himself said his mates dog is a crossbred bulldog type dog not pure APBT It only a modern thing ,,that colour has been added ,,no APBT can come that colour ,,,its banned because any dog that has it is not a pure bred APBT ,,, APBTs have and contiue to come in merle though, and from tight old lines nothing "modern" about them. Been popping up in the odd litter since the 1900s... Quote Link to post
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