Wild Boar

[Stud dog 632]

That's it this will be all the craze now wonder how long before someone is selling a singlehanded one not my thing plus freezers not big enough for all that meat I've got to upgrade

[Gareth12 224]

no my cup of tea personally but hats off to any dog with the balls to tackle an animal even close yo what I have seen in pictures

[LaddyLurcher 260]

That's it this will be all the craze now wonder how long before someone is selling a singlehanded one not my thing plus freezers not big enough for all that meat I've got to upgrade

we'll need a van mate struggle getting them in the car lol

[LaddyLurcher 260]

 

 

 

 

I'm probably going to get shot down for this and told I know nothing . . . . .

 

But no type of pig is native to north america. Domestic pigs were introduced from Europe in the 1500's by the spanish and there has been a feral population since then. Eurasian / Russian wild boar were introduced around 1910, and some escaped etc, so there has been a wild population of those since that time.

 

Both types freely interbreed (we have them here, called Iron Age Pigs), but true wild boar only come in one colour! Whereas the ferals and cross breeds (like the one in the picture above) come in a wide range of colours.

 

However thats not to say that coloured pigs are just escaped domestic ones, as obviously after that length of time, a 'feral' population, are effectively wild, and will have taken on many of the attributes of their 'wild boar' cousins, especially with inter breeding.

 

Tin hat on! (but the info above isn't my opinion. . . . . its historical fact).

Your pretty much right as I know it sir. There are many native species of pig to different countries like the African bush pig to Africa and the European boar "Russian boar as most refer to them here" and so on but none were native to north america. I belive South America has a native pig that lives in the rain forest but not positive on that.

I personally thought that the European boar where bigger than the wild boar we have here. They look to be more fierce too lol

I would love to see in person good European wild boar but i never have and never will I don't imagine.

It doesn't matter which pig is meaner or bigger, (I wouldn't imagine the dogs would know the different between the two) they will both be similar to catch with dogs I'm sure.

Let's not forget the actual reason for posting the picture of the big boar. Be prepared for the big boys cause you will encounter them if you go dogging. The better prepared you are, the better of you and your dogs will be.

on a side note, often time the dogs will uncover the big boars first. They stink and are easier for your dogs to smell from further away.. Good post Ideation!

peccary is the native South American pig just thought I'd chip in with a bit of knowledge lol

The Peccary or "Javalina" is not classified as a pig although it looks like a small pig. They categorize the Javalina as a rodent and not a swine. We have them here Iin Texas also, just not in my part of Texas. Rumor has it, you don't want your dogs on a one. I've heard stories and most don't turn out well on the behalf of the dogs

the discovery channel is wrong then shame on them

good old Google, the peccary is a pig but a different family of pig to the boars we know of, either way

from what I've seen on TV and like u say they can certainly stick up for them selfs

[bird 9,857]

no my cup of tea personally but hats off to any dog with the balls to tackle an animal even close yo what I have seen in pictures

 

the A B D type dogs seem to be very good for this kind of work, ive chatted to a bloke who uses (southern whites) over the pond, these are very old line of pig dogs, with pit in them. there not like most abds there smaller and more agile , but with very strong jaw , and very full on type dogs .He in Hawaii so a lot of its in like jungle type ground, his dogs will find the pigs and lug them till he gets there, they have been hurt before sometimes before he gets to them . there very tough fit dogs ,a lot different to southern whites over here he told me. would love to see them in action , maybe one day you never know what around the corner lol

[Gareth12 224]

Some of the Scott/Hines/old southern white ab lines are capable looking animals, a lot look like they have heavy pit influence and their history is interesting to me. I like reading the stories of these hunts and the dogs and techniques used, can't help feel a little envy when you see the work these guys can get on their doorstep for their dogs...

[paulsmithy83 567]

 

I like to eat them as long there not to old. Had a few hog roasts with boar. Get the seasoning right and there pukka. Mustard bit of garlic and pepper seed.

Blackstreak Do you get many injuries doing them all the time ?? Also do you have to retire many young dogs due to injury from them ? In the states they seem to have alot of youngsters coming through is this due to the short work life expectancy ???

I do not hunt the pigs with dogs like most do here in the states. I use dogs similar to what many Australian guys do and i hunt the way they hunt. My dogs fit my hunt style really well. Most people here in the US think I'm nuts and am asking to get my dogs killed but, actually I think my way is safer on the dogs and I don't need more than 2 dogs when hunting. There are pros and cons

to every style.

I have never had a dog die nor have I had to retire one YET. I've had to give them a little time off though. The day will come when I loose a dog but i hope it never does. I've seen suckling chest wounds and dogs bleeding out and battled heat stress but never lost a dog YET nor have i retired one yet. Oh as a side note and something interesting to note, the wounds that I just told you I have seen and have experience with, was when I used to do it like most do here in the US. I have hunted longer the aussie way than the bay dog/lead in catch dog way.

Worst experience I have had with my dogs I have now is two of them ran into one another at top speed head on when the pigs they were trying to catch crossed paths and I had a big boar come in and rip my dog off another pig my dog was holding. I still get the poke here and there. Fences are a concern of mine but so far nothing but minor stuff have i encountered with fences also.

Seems you found a style to suit you and your dogs. Out of interest do you hunt anything else with them or are boar there main quarry.

[BlackStreak 498]

 

 

 

 

 

I'm probably going to get shot down for this and told I know nothing . . . . .

 

But no type of pig is native to north america. Domestic pigs were introduced from Europe in the 1500's by the spanish and there has been a feral population since then. Eurasian / Russian wild boar were introduced around 1910, and some escaped etc, so there has been a wild population of those since that time.

 

Both types freely interbreed (we have them here, called Iron Age Pigs), but true wild boar only come in one colour! Whereas the ferals and cross breeds (like the one in the picture above) come in a wide range of colours.

 

However thats not to say that coloured pigs are just escaped domestic ones, as obviously after that length of time, a 'feral' population, are effectively wild, and will have taken on many of the attributes of their 'wild boar' cousins, especially with inter breeding.

 

Tin hat on! (but the info above isn't my opinion. . . . . its historical fact).

Your pretty much right as I know it sir. There are many native species of pig to different countries like the African bush pig to Africa and the European boar "Russian boar as most refer to them here" and so on but none were native to north america. I belive South America has a native pig that lives in the rain forest but not positive on that.

I personally thought that the European boar where bigger than the wild boar we have here. They look to be more fierce too lol

I would love to see in person good European wild boar but i never have and never will I don't imagine.

It doesn't matter which pig is meaner or bigger, (I wouldn't imagine the dogs would know the different between the two) they will both be similar to catch with dogs I'm sure.

Let's not forget the actual reason for posting the picture of the big boar. Be prepared for the big boys cause you will encounter them if you go dogging. The better prepared you are, the better of you and your dogs will be.

on a side note, often time the dogs will uncover the big boars first. They stink and are easier for your dogs to smell from further away.. Good post Ideation!

peccary is the native South American pig just thought I'd chip in with a bit of knowledge lol

The Peccary or "Javalina" is not classified as a pig although it looks like a small pig. They categorize the Javalina as a rodent and not a swine. We have them here Iin Texas also, just not in my part of Texas. Rumor has it, you don't want your dogs on a one. I've heard stories and most don't turn out well on the behalf of the dogs

the discovery channel is wrong then shame on them

good old Google, the peccary is a pig but a different family of pig to the boars we know of, either way

from what I've seen on TV and like u say they can certainly stick up for them selfs

All my life I've been told they were not a pig but closer to a rodent of sorts.

Like you I looked it up and the first two thing I looked at said they were no longer considered part of the pig family. What? When were they ever, crazy! I found same thing you looked at I guess. Said they were similar but different lol.

[BlackStreak 498]

 

 

I like to eat them as long there not to old. Had a few hog roasts with boar. Get the seasoning right and there pukka. Mustard bit of garlic and pepper seed.

Blackstreak Do you get many injuries doing them all the time ?? Also do you have to retire many young dogs due to injury from them ? In the states they seem to have alot of youngsters coming through is this due to the short work life expectancy ???

I do not hunt the pigs with dogs like most do here in the states. I use dogs similar to what many Australian guys do and i hunt the way they hunt. My dogs fit my hunt style really well. Most people here in the US think I'm nuts and am asking to get my dogs killed but, actually I think my way is safer on the dogs and I don't need more than 2 dogs when hunting. There are pros and cons

to every style.

I have never had a dog die nor have I had to retire one YET. I've had to give them a little time off though. The day will come when I loose a dog but i hope it never does. I've seen suckling chest wounds and dogs bleeding out and battled heat stress but never lost a dog YET nor have i retired one yet. Oh as a side note and something interesting to note, the wounds that I just told you I have seen and have experience with, was when I used to do it like most do here in the US. I have hunted longer the aussie way than the bay dog/lead in catch dog way.

Worst experience I have had with my dogs I have now is two of them ran into one another at top speed head on when the pigs they were trying to catch crossed paths and I had a big boar come in and rip my dog off another pig my dog was holding. I still get the poke here and there. Fences are a concern of mine but so far nothing but minor stuff have i encountered with fences also.

Seems you found a style to suit you and your dogs. Out of interest do you hunt anything else with them or are boar there main quarry.

I stick to pigs with my dogs. I'd like to have a cotton tail / jack rabbit dog but the fences would eat their lunch around here. Most rabbits are around the roads and fences. Seldom do I ever see a jack rabbit out in the feild far enough out that I would be comfortable sending a dog to. My area is not good for running coyotes. Not enough open country and a lot of fences. Deer are illegal to persue with dogs. I just stick with and am happy with pigs.

[MoChara 1,632]

If you ever seen a bad boar up close and personal I'd doubt you'd just slip the dog on it and hope for the best. As ideation said they aren't going without a fight, personally myself after getting charged daily by one the size of a house (not wild either). You see the tusks and the sharp bottom teeth coming for you - you run like a good un' and don't look back

 

Powerful things they are. I'd face a couple bulls quicker!

[lurcherman 887 13,077]

Lol bet you would ?

[BlackStreak 498]

If you ever seen a bad boar up close and personal I'd doubt you'd just slip the dog on it and hope for the best. As ideation said they aren't going without a fight, personally myself after getting charged daily by one the size of a house (not wild either). You see the tusks and the sharp bottom teeth coming for you - you run like a good un' and don't look back

Powerful things they are. I'd face a couple bulls quicker!

If your into catching pigs with dogs like I am, you would not have a catch dog that wouldn't stay latched on to the ear even while standing in his own guts. If a dog does not hold the boar even when it's taken a lot of punishment, the dog is not a catch dog, it's a cull in terms of catch dog. When you run in and put your hands on the boar, your well being depends greatly on the dogs willingness to hold the boar at all cost. If my dog is a hold of a boar i won't be running away, even if the boar is trying to get me with the dog swinging from it. It takes courage, commitment, and skill. The people that would let their dogs down because they loose their nerve, in my opinion should not be catching pigs with dogs. That person needs loose bay dogs and needs to shoot the pig.

[keepdiggin 9,559]

Some of the Scott/Hines/old southern white ab lines are capable looking animals, a lot look like they have heavy pit influence and their history is interesting to me. I like reading the stories of these hunts and the dogs and techniques used, can't help feel a little envy when you see the work these guys can get on their doorstep for their dogs...

 

Some of the Scott/Hines/old southern white ab lines are capable looking animals, a lot look like they have heavy pit influence and their history is interesting to me. I like reading the stories of these hunts and the dogs and techniques used, can't help feel a little envy when you see the work these guys can get on their doorstep for their dogs...

They use the Johnson type in Russia

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjqRwIZhsJc

 

That baying dog would do my nut in.

[downsouth 7,131]

 

Some of the Scott/Hines/old southern white ab lines are capable looking animals, a lot look like they have heavy pit influence and their history is interesting to me. I like reading the stories of these hunts and the dogs and techniques used, can't help feel a little envy when you see the work these guys can get on their doorstep for their dogs...

 

Some of the Scott/Hines/old southern white ab lines are capable looking animals, a lot look like they have heavy pit influence and their history is interesting to me. I like reading the stories of these hunts and the dogs and techniques used, can't help feel a little envy when you see the work these guys can get on their doorstep for their dogs...

 

They use the Johnson type in Russia

 

 

That baying dog would do my nut in.

Russia is one of the very few places a Johnson dog wouldn't be blowing out of its arse in 2 minutes.

[Ideation 8,216]

Probably easier to hunt in a pen . . . . .