the duke 54 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 People need to see the bigger picture. IMO it won't be long after the dog chipping law comes into effect that they will seize unchipped dogs. And any terrier or working dog that is unchipped will be seized as they will say that they believe it will be used for illegal activities. Buying dogs outside Uk doesn't matter one jot, as of next year it will be illegal to have un chipped dogs. This will be used against us. And as for docking yourself, if you get a visit and there is no paper trail for docked pups, you're getting a lifetime dog ban. No ifs or buts. My advice to all working dog men is to hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. . People need to see the bigger picture ? Yes your right but we all see things from a different angle the way I see it is if I have a chipped dog that was stolen, escaped , had to be left at a dig temporarelly or any other situation where your dog would be out of your control then that dog will compromise every other dog in your kennels. Not a nice thought losing a dog to the authority's but better than losing a full family of dogs to them by personnel details found on a chip. And topper your idea of having evidence of your dog being worked abroad is good but for me it would only explain old injuries anything fresh then you would need evidence of travell within that month week or day if your unlucky enough to be busted. Quote Link to post
whippet 99 2,613 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 what they don't know wont hurt them , cant prove a thing ,...fact Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 There's none of your details on the chip, it's not a concern having a dog chipped. The issue is registering the chip. There's going t be some serious money made by the organisation that gets to run the registration of these chips. If the dogs trust or RSPCA gets the contract to do it they'll have some unreal financial clout. Quote Link to post
Bryan 1,362 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 You'd hope the greyhound, hunting and shooting organisations would put in a solid tender to run and registration. They've experience in doing so for many years with written and published registrations. It's reasonable for them to say the dogs trust and spca are political lobbying groups who couldn't be expected to maintain the information of people owning dogs for pursuits they don't agree with. It'd be nice if a hunting organisation out manoeuvred them for once and got some serious cash in their coffers? Bryan 4 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Be even better if they left us the f**k alone.So a dog picked up without a chip becomes a stray , no change there then and a dog with a chip becomes a return to owner and while were here can we see your other dogs ,no,why not ,we will be back . Only those mass producing or selling need worry as far as i see .Keep calm ,keep doing what we do and dont pander to nobody . 2 Quote Link to post
tinytiger 840 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Ive had the docking thing covered for a good while now,breed only Beddy hybrids or buy pups from Eire,chipping,yeah right. need pet passport now,,probably a loophole through northern ireland but cant see it lasting with the amount of illegal pakis coming that way whose u.k student visas have run out Quote Link to post
tinytiger 840 Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 where does the law stand as regards docki8ng in ireland(republic)now-thought it was gone completely illegal Quote Link to post
Corkman 944 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Share Posted June 30, 2015 It is perfectly legal to dock working dogs in Ireland, Northern Ireland, Wales and England. But a vet or veterinary nurse has to do it....... For a fee of course. 1 Quote Link to post
Hepher 86 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Most brood bitches in Ireland eat the end of the puppies tails!! 1 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Exactly mate . Quote Link to post
tinytiger 840 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 It is perfectly legal to dock working dogs in Ireland, Northern Ireland, Wales and England. But a vet or veterinary nurse has to do it....... For a fee of course. thanks Corkman,,thought that but wasnt sure-saw a few convicions of people who had adds on donedeal etc.+miss world on t.v saying it was illegal lol Quote Link to post
tb25 4,627 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Mine get chipped in the wife's name.if an out doing something the law says is wrong al say I took the dog with out her concent.. Quote Link to post
DOGGINLAD 538 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Mine get chipped in the wife's name.if an out doing something the law says is wrong al say I took the dog with out her concent..An now you just told them on here what your doing lol 1 Quote Link to post
richc12 84 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Spoke to guy walking a patterdale a year or so ago... Apparently he had got it from the RSPCA kennels... It and its litter mate were taken from a man who didn't have docking certificates for them.... Now these dogs have a greater chance of harm coming to them by been owned by someone who doesn't properly understand the breed and the possibility of it self entering somewhere it shouldn't... The RSPCA have a lot to answer for......... Quote Link to post
Corkman 944 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 It is perfectly legal to dock working dogs in Ireland, Northern Ireland, Wales and England. But a vet or veterinary nurse has to do it....... For a fee of course. thanks Corkman,,thought that but wasnt sure-saw a few convicions of people who had adds on donedeal etc.+miss world on t.v saying it was illegal lol The Anti hunt types like Dogs Trust, RSPCA, USPCA, ISPCA, are fond of hiring clueless bimbos to peddle lies about matters they "choose" to thwart & twist knowing full the depth of deception they force on the innocent public and gladly assisted by the lazy media and journalists of today. The Blonde RTE news reader is another twisted devious bitch. Glad I got that off my chest.... ;-) 5 Quote Link to post
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