oneredtrim 148 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Yes commuting is fine I'm sure you don't commute to work with 20 other people two abreast . Road biking is a sport its not commuting. And i stated roads aren't built for sport it's not there purpose. As for your dig at my 20 miles I never claimed to be Chris hoy it's just a pleasure thing for me with a bit of fitness benefit thrown in..bottom line is i can fully understand why drivers get pissed at a lot of road bike users Im not the only one saying it am I? No i dont....but if 8 cyclists blocked me passing ability riding at 30mph on a 30 then i would'nt have a problem....someone that was late might. 'Road biking is a sport'...hmmm...commuting on a bike isnt...you said roads where built for cars....they were built for carriages, just like canal towpaths were were'nt built for cyclists but obviously you do it so hey ho silva. Dig...was'nt a dig kanny....there's f**k all wrong with me doing exactly what you do....obviously though 20 miles would'nt be worth f**k all when the dogs left at home, i realise from reading how other riding styles gets on your tits....perhaps thats the genesis of your angst. Yeah your not the only one saying it....your also not the only mong to say with some kind of factual knowledge that motor cars have priority....if roads are built for cars then you want to approach the police when they're cordoned off for a bike race and put em straight, tell em your from the huntinglife and there's a gud 20miler in ya. Does presuming the brum brum priority surreptitously mean 'get out of me way'...to you i mean?....i know for a fact it does to some motorists, i've asked em and they've started with an embarassed llaff. Edited June 27, 2015 by oneredtrim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RossM 8,121 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) I'm sure it's not the actual cycling that pisses folk off but their total disregard for other road users, not the whole "f**k em" attitude that's not to say they all like that, but like has been said a bit common courtesy, not all cyclists are fuckwits just like not all drivers are fuckwits, BUT they all tar each other with the same brush therefore....... It's a vicious circle lol. I do however think there should be more laws with taxes, insurances, running red lights etc. Edited June 27, 2015 by RossM 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Accip74 7,112 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 No.1 sport in belgium........can't say it's bothered me yet.......another thread that makes me feel good about myself :-))) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hydropotesinermis 724 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 I used to get really pissed off with cyclists, and took the opinion of many of the posters on this thread. Since I was about 20 I have tried to try out a new spot every year, it hasn't always worked out like that as it is f***ing expensive (although you can usually sell old gear to buy new.) The first sport I tried was cycling, myself and 5 other blokes decided to give ourselves a year of training and then cycle lands end, john o groats. All I can say is before you criticise walk a mile in another mans shoes or whatever, for every tosser on a bike there is a tosser in a car. I had two blokes, about my age force me into a hedge on an empty road for no other reason than they thought it was funny, as I fell off my bike into the thorns I yelled why don't you stop you c**t. Which they did. The passenger got out of the car and I think he probably soon regretted it as he was left gargling in said thorn hedge while his cowardly little friend sped off up the road suffering with a spontaneous and really rather nasty nose bleed. I sold my bike after completing the lands end john o groats ride to buy a kayak, which I still have. Having experienced road biking I would never put pressure on a cyclist, for many of the reasons complained about in this thread, just give them time and space. And yes, some of them are arseholes. Most aren't though. I did once have the "sometimes two abreast is safer." Thing explained to me but I cant remember why or when it is meant to be used. It is bloody frustrating. P.s. I never once wore Lycra. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 (edited) Nothing worse than seeing guys out enjoying their sport. Makes me sick. You'd think they'd ride in single file so you could pass them faster and closer? Like horses out hunting, or guys walking dogs on country roads, if they just clung in by the ditch so I could tear past them without dropping a rev, it'd be a better world. When I have to lift my foot off the floor and drop a gear for some child walking on the road or people cycling or hounds crossing a road? Well a little bit of me dies. Another man's sport? F*ck 'em all (all except my sport) It's a lack of tolerance for another man's sport, that lead to a ban on hunting in the UK. Out hunting in Ireland nothing seems to annoy people more than having to slow down for a minute or so for hounds or horses. They could care less about hunting, but holy shit delay them on a back country road in winter on a saturday or sunday and they will go mental!!! Nothing wrong with anyone enjoying their sport...But you dont see the local Boxing club sparring in the Post office or the local football team having a kick about in Tesco's car park do you?...they do their sport in an appropriate place without hindering the general public...cyclists 3 abreast down small country lanes is pig ignorant and potentially dangerous for car driver and cyclist...maybe they should do their sport at somewhere more sutible a velodrome or cycle/race track like other sports do...can not see a connection to cycling and hunting at all...hounds and horses can only do their sport in the countryside...its like being stuck behind a tractor on a country lane...you know it has to be there. Now the Lycra thing i can never understand...for sure in the Olympics where every nano second counts...but some sweaty old bloke up a back lane?!!...be a bit like me driving out in Formula 1 overalls and crash helmet. Edited June 27, 2015 by AKA-BRINDLE 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,667 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Yes commuting is fine I'm sure you don't commute to work with 20 other people two abreast . Road biking is a sport its not commuting. And i stated roads aren't built for sport it's not there purpose. As for your dig at my 20 miles I never claimed to be Chris hoy it's just a pleasure thing for me with a bit of fitness benefit thrown in..bottom line is i can fully understand why drivers get pissed at a lot of road bike users Im not the only one saying it am I? No i dont....but if 8 cyclists blocked me passing ability riding at 30mph on a 30 then i would'nt have a problem....someone that was late might. 'Road biking is a sport'...hmmm...commuting on a bike isnt...you said roads where built for cars....they were built for carriages, just like canal towpaths were were'nt built for cyclists but obviouosly you do it so hey ho silva. Dig...was'nt a dig kanny....there's f**k all wrong with me doing exactly what you do....obviously though 20 miles would'nt be worth f**k all when the dogs left at home, i realise from reading how other riding styles gets on your tits....perhaps thats the genesis of your angst. Yeah your not the only one saying it....your also not the only mong to say with some kind of factual knowledge that motor cars have priority....if roads are built for cars then you want to approach the police when they're cordoned off for a bike race and put em straight, tell em your from the huntinglife and there's a gud 20miler in ya. Does presuming the brum brum priority surreptitously mean 'get out of me way'...to you i mean?....i know for a fact it does to some motorists, i've asked em and they've started with an embarassed llaff. if road cyclists actually stuck to the law and did 30 in a 30 that would be a first ..I've never said that the highways are just for cars there's lorry's and motorbikes to all pay there road taxes and contribute to the up keep of the roads. Other riding styles don't get on my nerves as long as they are courteous to other road users and abide by the same laws motorists do "Mong" 20miler" typical road biker insulting attitude and I said roads are built for commuting and transport not sport and I don't go to the police it's not my style I will leave that to the road bike fanatics. The brum brum priority means be courteous to other road users and not to hold other people up for no apparent reason if you are riding 2 or 3 a breast and a car wants to pass where appropriate move to single file and let him past its just good manners...do you drive also? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 47,353 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 They used to drive me off my f***ing canister in London, they are cutting about on something that weighs 25kg but they think they are in a Chieftain Tank !! And what's more, if you splatter one it's YOU that's in deep shit !! I knocked some silly four eyed prick off his boris bike in Greys Inn Road the other year, I was turning left in a dirty great red luton van (so it's not like you could miss me!!) and he tried to overtake up the inside !!.......I mean what the f**k ??!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zilverhaze 1,627 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 i got arreasted when i was a kid for shootin one up the arse with a air pistol as he drove past in all the lycra .. he wobbled and wobbled and hit the curb and wrapped up i new i whuld get caught for it but chuldent resist it was only a kid dident get charged tho :-) 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan 1,362 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Nothing worse than seeing guys out enjoying their sport. Makes me sick. You'd think they'd ride in single file so you could pass them faster and closer? Like horses out hunting, or guys walking dogs on country roads, if they just clung in by the ditch so I could tear past them without dropping a rev, it'd be a better world. When I have to lift my foot off the floor and drop a gear for some child walking on the road or people cycling or hounds crossing a road? Well a little bit of me dies. Another man's sport? F*ck 'em all (all except my sport) It's a lack of tolerance for another man's sport, that lead to a ban on hunting in the UK. Out hunting in Ireland nothing seems to annoy people more than having to slow down for a minute or so for hounds or horses. They could care less about hunting, but holy shit delay them on a back country road in winter on a saturday or sunday and they will go mental!!! Nothing wrong with anyone enjoying their sport...But you dont see the local Boxing club sparring in the Post office or the local football team having a kick about in Tesco's car park do you?...they do their sport in an appropriate place without hindering the general public...cyclists 3 abreast down small country lanes is pig ignorant and potentially dangerous for car driver and cyclist...maybe they should do their sport at somewhere more sutible a velodrome or cycle/race track like other sports do...can not see a connection to cycling and hunting at all...hounds and horses can only do their sport in the countryside...its like being stuck behind a tractor on a country lane...you know it has to be there. Now the Lycra thing i can never understand...for sure in the Olympics where every nano second counts...but some sweaty old bloke up a back lane?!!...be a bit like me driving out in Formula 1 overalls and crash helmet. Here's what i mean by a lack of tolerance in England. I did 6 hours training in Cork,Ireland the other week with one guy. One car beep and shouted at us, English Reg. I did 6 hours this winter in UK with Yanto Barker (Top ranked british Professional last 2 seasons) 2 cars hit him on the elbow as we were riding single file, at least 10 "buzzed us" driving as close as possible without hitting us and countless people shouted the usual C8nts,W&nkers etc etc When I trained to box we always ran miles on the roads and footpaths in a group. In Ireland that usually met with lighthearted banter. Irish people are a lot more tolerant, we can hunt. English people couldn't even tolerate English Foxhunting. Why Lycra??? Do 6 hours in the rain wearing jeans and you'd end up going transgender Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,255 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 They used to drive me off my f***ing canister in London, they are cutting about on something that weighs 25kg but they think they are in a Chieftain Tank !! And what's more, if you splatter one it's YOU that's in deep shit !! I knocked some silly four eyed prick off his boris bike in Greys Inn Road the other year, I was turning left in a dirty great red luton van (so it's not like you could miss me!!) and he tried to overtake up the inside !!.......I mean what the f**k ??!! A few years ago i was sitting at a junction round the corner from there in Clerkenwell Rd trying to do a right turn with a lycra monster trying to ease up in front of me....as i edged forward ive suddenly heard screaming and seen a load of arm waving the silly c**t is only standing/sitting/falling with his left foot underneath my rear wheel !!......i mean you just dont need it........any normal person would of waited but silly bollocks here wanted to beat the cars! I have nothing against cyclists on a leisurely ride out in the countryside i can see the attraction in that but using a bike as actual transport whats that all about .....in London its a nightmare you,ve got these lycra clad dopes on their all singing all dancing 118 speed Grifters riding alongside suited and booted city slickers on their Boris bikes......all doing the same mad rush hour run that cars/vans/lorries are doing.......who in their right mind wants to arrive at a destination looking/smelling like a complete dishevelled sweaty mess anyway ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oneredtrim 148 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 Yes commuting is fine I'm sure you don't commute to work with 20 other people two abreast . Road biking is a sport its not commuting. And i stated roads aren't built for sport it's not there purpose. As for your dig at my 20 miles I never claimed to be Chris hoy it's just a pleasure thing for me with a bit of fitness benefit thrown in..bottom line is i can fully understand why drivers get pissed at a lot of road bike users Im not the only one saying it am I? No i dont....but if 8 cyclists blocked me passing ability riding at 30mph on a 30 then i would'nt have a problem....someone that was late might. 'Road biking is a sport'...hmmm...commuting on a bike isnt...you said roads where built for cars....they were built for carriages, just like canal towpaths were were'nt built for cyclists but obviouosly you do it so hey ho silva. Dig...was'nt a dig kanny....there's f**k all wrong with me doing exactly what you do....obviously though 20 miles would'nt be worth f**k all when the dogs left at home, i realise from reading how other riding styles gets on your tits....perhaps thats the genesis of your angst. Yeah your not the only one saying it....your also not the only mong to say with some kind of factual knowledge that motor cars have priority....if roads are built for cars then you want to approach the police when they're cordoned off for a bike race and put em straight, tell em your from the huntinglife and there's a gud 20miler in ya. Does presuming the brum brum priority surreptitously mean 'get out of me way'...to you i mean?....i know for a fact it does to some motorists, i've asked em and they've started with an embarassed llaff. if road cyclists actually stuck to the law and did 30 in a 30 that would be a first ..I've never said that the highways are just for cars there's lorry's and motorbikes to all pay there road taxes and contribute to the up keep of the roads. Other riding styles don't get on my nerves as long as they are courteous to other road users and abide by the same laws motorists do "Mong" 20miler" typical road biker insulting attitude and I said roads are built for commuting and transport not sport and I don't go to the police it's not my style I will leave that to the road bike fanatics. The brum brum priority means be courteous to other road users and not to hold other people up for no apparent reason if you are riding 2 or 3 a breast and a car wants to pass where appropriate move to single file and let him past its just good manners...do you drive also? Road tax's dont pay for the upkeep of our roads...is this from where your priorities develop? Anyone chucking a mad 'en on a road whether a cyclists or not does'nt give a motorist carte blanche to go off thier tits...that's the very reason someone wise owl once said 'drive according to your conditions'...'ride according to your conditions' is also a fair comment, i've f****d a few of the bouncy fork brigade off for running red lights, they want confrontation is the truth, they want it only when the riding starts to get serious/hard. Yeah i do own cars, i've also been sat in em whilst behind a 2 abreast mob with me passenger rapidly developing road rage, he was a bit like you in thinking he paid for the roads and had absolutely f**k all to say when i pointed out the over hanging cover coupled with the very moody kerbside tarmac was being swered for the next 300m's, he did'nt even speak when i predicted thier movement back into the kerb and single file...i did tell him there was a two for the price of one deal on at specsavers and he asked me what i meant...the journey home was in silence. No i'd expect you dont go to the police to ask em what they are playing at closing your road off. Had a gud en once with a comical motorist on a sunny day, kerbside being f****d even the cars hugged the white lines up a steep incline tight bend and another incline, the choice was to get off and walk or attempt the climb without stressing out the naturally reduced speed motorists..i went for it up the centre of me lane glancing back at the car directly behind me, he was Fonzy he did;nt neeed to drop his speed 1mph, the second car contained a gaggle of fillies who quickly got in the party mood by shouting words of encouragment 'gooo on lad', the third driver was butting his steering wheel and bibbing his horn to the amusement of every other motorist. Cause we was in bohemian country the driver behind me stopped his car dead outside a boozer which was rocking along to some summer sounds, the crowd from the boozer had a sitting duck to take the piss out off...i'll be truthfull with ya...i did laff, the girls were the most cutting, asking him through open windows had he knocked f**k out of his mrs this morning or was he late.Strokes/folks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,255 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 When I trained to box we always ran miles on the roads and footpaths in a group. In Ireland that usually met with lighthearted banter. When your trainer said " be sure to do your roadwork " he didnt mean literally ........im sure you must have hills and paths to run in Ireland why would you choose to run on smokey dangerous roads/pavements.......even in the middle of East London we would find open spaces to put the miles in......even for no other reason that to avoid people shouting at " Rocckkkkyyyyyyy " 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bryan 1,362 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 He wanted us on the roads so he could drive alongside shouting abuse while drove out to the turn around point, making sure we didn't short cut it, lie to us about our pace. Shout more abuse on the way back. There bigger lads got dogs abuse. Then he was ready to start training. When I trained to box we always ran miles on the roads and footpaths in a group. In Ireland that usually met with lighthearted banter. When your trainer said " be sure to do your roadwork " he didnt mean literally ........im sure you must have hills and paths to run in Ireland why would you choose to run on smokey dangerous roads/pavements.......even in the middle of East London we would find open spaces to put the miles in......even for no other reason that to avoid people shouting at " Rocckkkkyyyyyyy " Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Qbgrey 4,115 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 If a cyclist ploughs into your side door who's gonna pay.the cyclist got no insurance.no number plate.Thiers no accountancy on their part.that's why they do want they want. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cragman 2,788 Posted June 27, 2015 Report Share Posted June 27, 2015 I cycle, have done for years, but also being a driver, I'm mindful of other road users. My Lycra days are long gone, I stick to padded cycling shorts. When I used to wear Lycra, the first place people looked when I got off my bike was my crotch area, and I'm not bragging either! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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