poacher06 2 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Was just to see if there was any on here and does many people feed knacker meat to the dogs? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackdog92 2,047 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 When you say knacker do you meen fallen stock? If so i dont but a know a fella that feeds his salukis on it and they seen to do pretty well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 You need to be a registered kennels to get neat from such sources. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,531 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Knackers yard and maggot farm was our family business but no more and yes the dogs always got fed well Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 What's the deal with taking stock direct from the producer/farmer? I'm guessing there's paperwork involved? I was clearing a few rats from a mates yard with the terrier recently, he farms sheep and pigs, and he asked me if I knew if the hunt take dead stock anymore. They don't but that's not important. He's not a big fan of shooting his own stock but has a real moral problem with anything going to waste if at all avoidable. I know a few folks that would take free mutton/lamb for the dogs and wondered what the legality is of me doing it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 https://www.gov.uk/fallen-stock My reading of that is that you have to be one of the mentioned businesses to dispose of fallen stock. It's all to do with disease transfer and disposal of specified risk material (SRM). SRM varies from species to species. The SRM from home kill animals must be disposed of by an approved renderer, with the farmer required to keep records. If you JFDI, then make sure that your farmer friend has a way of explaining where the fallen stock has gone. It may be best to only feed dead lambs/piglets which haven't yet been tagged/registered so are not 'in the system' so to speak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,531 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 I'm not sure on todays legislation. My dad and his brothers had the yard from the late 60s to the 2002 obviously with foot and mouth alot change.. It was all the new rules that made a very lucrative business into one that struggled to break even Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 https://www.gov.uk/fallen-stock My reading of that is that you have to be one of the mentioned businesses to dispose of fallen stock. It's all to do with disease transfer and disposal of specified risk material (SRM). SRM varies from species to species. The SRM from home kill animals must be disposed of by an approved renderer, with the farmer required to keep records. If you JFDI, then make sure that your farmer friend has a way of explaining where the fallen stock has gone. It may be best to only feed dead lambs/piglets which haven't yet been tagged/registered so are not 'in the system' so to speak. I'll have a read, cheers mate. But I was wondering more about livestock, that needs shooting, so to speak. I guess I'd then need some sort of livestock license to transfer ownership to then kill it and it all becomes a bit of a pain in the arse just to help a mate out with a few knackered old ewes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,466 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 https://www.gov.uk/fallen-stock My reading of that is that you have to be one of the mentioned businesses to dispose of fallen stock. It's all to do with disease transfer and disposal of specified risk material (SRM). SRM varies from species to species. The SRM from home kill animals must be disposed of by an approved renderer, with the farmer required to keep records. If you JFDI, then make sure that your farmer friend has a way of explaining where the fallen stock has gone. It may be best to only feed dead lambs/piglets which haven't yet been tagged/registered so are not 'in the system' so to speak. I'll have a read, cheers mate. But I was wondering more about livestock, that needs shooting, so to speak. I guess I'd then need some sort of livestock license to transfer ownership to then kill it and it all becomes a bit of a pain in the arse just to help a mate out with a few knackered old ewes. You can shoot his livestock no problem. You can transfer ownership to yourself for free, and then shoot them no problem. Regardless of who owns them you still have to account for the disposal of the SRM. In mature sheep it's the brain and spinal cord. Best thing to do I reckon would be to have him say that they are 'lost' on the flock book, and then you shoot them and feed them. I've only ever fed road kill deer to dogs, but in my experience there isn't anything left. Dogs didn't seem bothered by the SRM at all lol. The local hunt to me take fallen sheep from farmers, but don't feed them. They all go in a skip and off to the renderer. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chid 6,518 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 https://www.gov.uk/fallen-stock My reading of that is that you have to be one of the mentioned businesses to dispose of fallen stock. It's all to do with disease transfer and disposal of specified risk material (SRM). SRM varies from species to species. The SRM from home kill animals must be disposed of by an approved renderer, with the farmer required to keep records. If you JFDI, then make sure that your farmer friend has a way of explaining where the fallen stock has gone. It may be best to only feed dead lambs/piglets which haven't yet been tagged/registered so are not 'in the system' so to speak. I'll have a read, cheers mate. But I was wondering more about livestock, that needs shooting, so to speak. I guess I'd then need some sort of livestock license to transfer ownership to then kill it and it all becomes a bit of a pain in the arse just to help a mate out with a few knackered old ewes. Get humane dispatch of livestock as a condition on your ticket ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 https://www.gov.uk/fallen-stock My reading of that is that you have to be one of the mentioned businesses to dispose of fallen stock. It's all to do with disease transfer and disposal of specified risk material (SRM). SRM varies from species to species. The SRM from home kill animals must be disposed of by an approved renderer, with the farmer required to keep records. If you JFDI, then make sure that your farmer friend has a way of explaining where the fallen stock has gone. It may be best to only feed dead lambs/piglets which haven't yet been tagged/registered so are not 'in the system' so to speak. I'll have a read, cheers mate. But I was wondering more about livestock, that needs shooting, so to speak. I guess I'd then need some sort of livestock license to transfer ownership to then kill it and it all becomes a bit of a pain in the arse just to help a mate out with a few knackered old ewes. Get humane dispatch of livestock as a condition on your ticket ... Came as standard with Linc's, not sure if the condition has been removed with Nott's. Either way, a 12 bore would do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yorkshire 151 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) everything is traceable from the farm to where we dispose of it , if you want to feed knackermeat to the mutts it can be done legally , you will prob need a waste carriers licence to fetch it, an enclosed feed area and separate storage , and means of disposal (bones ect ...back to knackerman) , the meat will be stained and the SRM must also be stained . if you got a good kennel set up its worth speaking to the ministry , 1st call is knackerman ... You will also get random visits from ministry if you register your kennels to feed flesh Edited June 25, 2015 by yorkshire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,531 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) Just a thought My dogs at the time never got on with mutton they would get the squits I would give them turkey breast mixed with a bit of beef veg and rice I would just bring a batch to the boil but not cook in a baby berco then freeze it. Edited June 25, 2015 by kanny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yorkshire 151 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 I freeze , defrost , feed .. No need to cook ... Always found lamb great for growing pups ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yorkshire 151 Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 (edited) ... Edited June 25, 2015 by yorkshire Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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