socks 32,253 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 It doesn't matter what your culture or what your beliefs ... Cruelty and inflicting suffering is the same and as a human being no matter what you believe in you cannot accept or condone cruelty .. Once you do you are starting to lose your humanity ... I have absolutely no problem in any culture or nation eating what they want ... however as a rational right thinking human being I have got a problem with the cruelty inflicted on the animals they want to eat ... You have only got to look up bile bears to see the mentality these people have ... I have seen more than enough cruelty ... Real cruelty to last me a lifetime so anything that has to die ... For me has to die as quickly and as painlessly as possible ......same here only I was never paid or got a pension for it And ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Theres no actual concept of animal cruelty in china,leastways there wasnt when i first went there 25 years agoThats the important thing for me.........a Chink sitting slagging us off for keeping dogs as pets could well be saying the same thing.....are we right just because we are. you Could use the same argument for anything ...who's right us or Islamic fundamentalist? They believe there right don't they....somewhere common sense has to come into play and common sense tells me there wrong there's no sense in what they do Fair point......though Islamic fundamentalists who want to hurt or destroy other human beings cant be compared to human beings who want to hurt and destroy animals in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zilverhaze 1,627 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 lol the chineese dog in the pot is a scratch to the surface to how some of them poor c**ts got it chained to sewin machines 12-15 hours a day drinking out of dog bowls kids teatherd up to mopeds out side the factorys waitin for ther parents some pretty bad shit goes on in china Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 It doesn't matter what your culture or what your beliefs ... Cruelty and inflicting suffering is the same and as a human being no matter what you believe in you cannot accept or condone cruelty .. Once you do you are starting to lose your humanity ... I have absolutely no problem in any culture or nation eating what they want ... however as a rational right thinking human being I have got a problem with the cruelty inflicted on the animals they want to eat ... You have only got to look up bile bears to see the mentality these people have ... I have seen more than enough cruelty ... Real cruelty to last me a lifetime so anything that has to die ... For me has to die as quickly and as painlessly as possible ......same here only I was never paid or got a pension for itAnd ???that wasn't a dig ...... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oohmydog 82 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 A mate told me a recipe for eating a Canada goose He said get one and don't hang it Pluck it immediately and empty the carcase Rub butter all over it and fill the cavity with a new building brick rap in foil and burry it and light a fire over the top Leave for 24 hrs Dig it up And eat the brick ? 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,757 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Me I couldn't eat a dog as already been said its a carnivore I'd eat almost any vegetarian animal and be game to do so , but just couldn't bring myself to eat a dog . I enjoy my dogs but in a completely different way to the Chinese lol . The Chinese seem to me if things went the way of the pear they'd be first to start eating humans lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Truther 1,579 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Me I couldn't eat a dog as already been said its a carnivore I'd eat almost any vegetarian animal and be game to do so , but just couldn't bring myself to eat a dog . I enjoy my dogs but in a completely different way to the Chinese lol . The Chinese seem to me if things went the way of the pear they'd be first to start eating humans lol The japs would beat them to eating humans mate, the japs love a bit of "long pig". If the chinks decided to eat each other i don't have a problem with that at all 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BIGLURKS 874 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Right apart from the beating and burning the dogs and the torture of the of the dogs which I find all wrong and the way there kept how many of use have seen battery farming of chickens and disagree with it but still buy your chicken from tescos or buy your eggs from there how many have seen cows winterd on slats sleep in there own shit threw the winter with no bedding how many have been too milk cows now if for some reason you think there is no cow shit in your milk think again cows take shit on the floor and kick of units all the time and the shit just gets sucked up into the line happens more then you think how many have been too pig farms or even seen commercial sheep before dagging time with maggots eating all the dead meat off there asses who's been too a feedlot farm the thing is I've worked on farms most of my life and farming in Britain is not much better what you don't see is having too get the cows on the lorry beating with sticks there legs broke with kickbars cos they have kicked ya in the knees chickens grabed bye the neck and flung in crates there is no ow come here chick chick when lads are loading crates they are literally grabbed and get in there you f****r so apart from the torture and all that shit who are we too say a country can't farm an animal too eat and just cos we keep them as pets cos are farming practises are not that different all the animals we eat don't have pet names and live in a big grass field a good majority of them are kept in crates or live in sheds for there lives even too the point dairy cows live in sheds all year round now never used too be like that and some will never be in a field same with pigs who are we as British folk too condone how some one else does things but do it are selfs too diffrent animals the only diffrence is it's not seen as barbaric and cruel in are eyes 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Well I can hand on heart say my meat eggs and milk are free ranged either by myself my mates or the local farm so I am no hypocrite ......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,916 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Theres no actual concept of animal cruelty in china,leastways there wasnt when i first went there 25 years ago Thats the important thing for me.........a Chink sitting slagging us off for keeping dogs as pets could well be saying the same thing.....are we right just because we are. got no prob them eating a dog , meat /meat , but the bottom line is mate it down right cruelty to burn them alive or club them, anybody who think different wants to go and see a shrink, because it makes you as sick as them little yellow c**ts if you don't think it is . I am hard on my dogs always have been, , if you don't want a dog shoot it if it was for work etc , but human decency you get rid of it humane , not torture the poor fecker and that what this post is about, forget the eating bollocks that goes with it . FACT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,763 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 There are some curious views on morality here. We seem to be under the impression there is such a thing as absolute right and wrong. I think it's worth taking a step back. The bottom line with morality is, there's my opinion and there's everyone else's individual opinion. Right and wrong are completely arbitrary and subjective, not fact or absolute. 'Unnecessary cruelty' should be completely avoided, it's 'common sense'....... right? So nobody here has had a hunt for no other reason than they wanted to? Nobody been out for a dig or fishing or a run for no other reason than they wanted to? I suppose a fox that has being worked by a terrier doesn't feel much agro, it's having the time of it's life I bet. Same goes for the catch and release fish eh? Perspective... We as individuals justify our own cruelty as necessary by whatever means our conscience allows. We're not unique in that or righteous in our moral stance. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,121 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) got no prob them eating a dog , meat /meat , but the bottom line is mate it down right cruelty to burn them alive or club them, anybody who think different wants to go and see a shrink, because it makes you as sick as them little yellow c**ts if you don't think it is . I am hard on my dogs always have been, , if you don't want a dog shoot it if it was for work etc , but human decency you get rid of it humane , not torture the poor fecker and that what this post is about, forget the eating bollocks that goes with it . FACT Read Bornhunters post above mate..................as human beings us British dont have the final say on what is right and wrong.....we think the way the Chinese burn them alive or club them is sick......they most probably think the way we keep them as pets is sick.................so its not FACT its opinion. Personally i agree i dont like what they do but at the end of the day its only animals and not everyone places the same value on animal life that we do. Edited June 24, 2015 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,757 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) There are some curious views on morality here. We seem to be under the impression there is such a thing as absolute right and wrong. I think it's worth taking a step back. The bottom line with morality is, there's my opinion and there's everyone else's individual opinion. Right and wrong are completely arbitrary and subjective, not fact or absolute. 'Unnecessary cruelty' should be completely avoided, it's 'common sense'....... right? So nobody here has had a hunt for no other reason than they wanted to? Nobody been out for a dig or fishing or a run for no other reason than they wanted to? I suppose a fox that has being worked by a terrier doesn't feel much agro, it's having the time of it's life I bet. Same goes for the catch and release fish eh? Perspective... We as individuals justify our own cruelty as necessary by whatever means our conscience allows. We're not unique in that or righteous in our moral stance. if the Chinese done terrier work they'd sow the fox in the terrier and make a sandwich out of em . Of course only after beating the two of them to make it a more tastier ?. Edited June 24, 2015 by marshman 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marshman 7,757 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 The Chinese are a strange folk where eating is concerned , they'll a fish while it's still alive drink bial from a bear stomach in reality nothing no matter how cruel or in danger the animal is off menu . And yet I read somewhere they don't drink milk as it's considered like spit ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kanny 20,611 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 They can't drink milk there genetically intolerant to lactose.... I know farming in this country still has a dark side one of the reasons I do my best to source all my food free range and organic alot of meat eggs and dairy that I eat comes from small holdings I'm fortunate that my Mrs has a job that takes her round these places.... Makes me laugh when silly women on Facebook are sharing anti propaganda whilst bragging how they got 2 chickens for a fiver... Hypocrites! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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