Squirrel - the pics at last

[Deker 3,478]

A bag to be extremely proud of .Tell us a bit more of the way you came about them .

 

They have all come from a country park, or to be accurate, only around 25 acres of the park, I'm working my way around it. Its owned by the council and they gave me a call about their grey problem. After 4 visits , site survey, risk assessments, ariel and ground plans, and meetings with the top people they actually agreed to shooting. We have had to cordon off areas of the park and close them to the public whilst I go about my work. I had another 26 yesterday and 13 today so now it is 171 in 5 visits. I started in the area I knew was worst effected but would expect to be somewhere near the 300 mark by the time we call a halt. Park is around 65-70 acres in total and open to the public 24/7 so it was agreed I would only use Air Rifle to limit any carry, the greys were so used to people that was fine as their curiosity became their downfall. They are learning fast now!

 

Deker

Edited November 16, 2007 by Deker

[heart of wales 19]

Decker exellent shooting is your air rifle fac obviously it hasnt effected your accuaracy

I am curious as my daystate air ranger is going of as soon as I have my license back they recon it can go up to as much as 80ft pounds

[Deker 3,478]

Decker exellent shooting is your air rifle fac obviously it hasnt effected your accuaracy

I am curious as my daystate air ranger is going of as soon as I have my license back they recon it can go up to as much as 80ft pounds

 

 

Yes mine is FAC running at 26ft lb. Zero is 40yards, and at that range I can empty a magazine (8 shot) into a 1p piece with Air Arms Field, 30-50 yards just aim and it hits, I can regularly take bunnies and squirrels to 60 yards. Still produces 12ft lb at 100 yards.

 

I have heard about the Air Ranger and ft lb.

To be honest I cannot see any point in pushing it anywhere close to that, there are only a handful of pellets you could use, (Dai Sung 28.5g, Eley Magmum 30g, H & N Rabbit Magnum 30g, RWS CA707 28.5g, (Daystate) Magnum bullets 40g, Varminter H.P. bullets 39.5g). All these cost a fortune and are difficult to get hold of, and I'm not sure any of them can deal with 80ft lb. On top of that the tuning job will cost a load, you will be charging the thing every 5 minutes (Daystate recon 20 shots only......I would be surprised if you get thet many) and the whole gun will cost a fortune and it will have to be on a FAC anyway.

 

You can buy a brand new .22 rimmy for around £200, subsonic ammo between about 85-105ft lb for around £34 per 1000 and keep shooting all day with ammo designed to deal with the power. In simple terms why spend over £1000 for an air rifle at 80ft lb when you can get a rimmy for £200 with ammo about the same price.

 

Most Air rifle ammo is designed for 12ft lb, Air Arms Field/Hunter and Bisley Magnum and a few others are designed for up to 30 ft lbs, start pushing the power much above this and your grouping will be s**t. My advice, for what its worth is keep your Air Ranger to 30 or at the very most 40ft lb, if you want more power buy a rimmy.

 

Thats a personal view of course, I have been shooting all my life (target, clays, game and vermin), I have a 12ft lb air rifle, a 26ft lb job, rimfires and centrefires, as well as 3 Shotguns (I'm seriously thinking about selling the HMR and getting a .22 Magnum instead). I take out the tools I need and personally I cannot think of any more of a waste of space or money than an 80ft lb air rifle.

Deker

Edited November 18, 2007 by Deker

[heart of wales 19]

Decker exellent shooting is your air rifle fac obviously it hasnt effected your accuaracy

I am curious as my daystate air ranger is going of as soon as I have my license back they recon it can go up to as much as 80ft pounds

 

 

Yes mine is FAC running at 26ft lb. Zero is 40yards, and at that range I can empty a magazine (8 shot) into a 1p piece with Air Arms Field, 30-50 yards just aim and it hits, I can regularly take bunnies and squirrels to 60 yards. Still produces 12ft lb at 100 yards.

 

I have heard about the Air Ranger and ft lb.

To be honest I cannot see any point in pushing it anywhere close to that, there are only a handful of pellets you could use, (Dai Sung 28.5g, Eley Magmum 30g, H & N Rabbit Magnum 30g, RWS CA707 28.5g, (Daystate) Magnum bullets 40g, Varminter H.P. bullets 39.5g). All these cost a fortune and are difficult to get hold of, and I'm not sure any of them can deal with 80ft lb. On top of that the tuning job will cost a load, you will be charging the thing every 5 minutes (Daystate recon 20 shots only......I would be surprised if you get thet many) and the whole gun will cost a fortune and it will have to be on a FAC anyway.

 

You can buy a brand new .22 rimmy for around £200, subsonic ammo between about 85-105ft lb for around £34 per 1000 and keep shooting all day with ammo designed to deal with the power. In simple terms why spend over £1000 for an air rifle at 80ft lb when you can get a rimmy for £200 with ammo about the same price.

 

Most Air rifle ammo is designed for 12ft lb, Air Arms Field/Hunter and Bisley Magnum and a few others are designed for up to 30 ft lbs, start pusing the power much above this and your grouping will be s**t. My advice, for what its worth is keep your Air Ranger to 30 or at the very most 40ft lb, if you want more power buy a rimmy.

 

Thats a personal view of course, I have been shooting all my life (target, clays, game and vermin), I have a 12ft lb air rifle, a 26ft lb job, rimfires and centrefires, as well as 3 Shotguns (I'm seriously thinking about selling the HMR and getting a .22 Magnum instead). I take out the tools I need and personally I cannot think of any more of a waste of space or money than an 80ft lb air rifle.

Deker

Thanks for the advice Decker I currently own a 22 remmington and a .17 bruno cz if you are looking for a new rifle the 17 is the dogs bollocks I had thought about the rifle poundage and was considering going to 40

[Deker 3,478]

Heart of Wales

 

Me again, it's my 17HMR I am selling!!!!

 

At the moment that sits between my .22LR and my .223. There is no doubt that it is fast and flat and has its uses out to about 150 yards but it does tail off quickly after this and being so light is easily bent out of shape. (And why the f**k is the ammo so expensive and difficult to find these days) The .22 magnum is not as fast or flat, but its not bad, it is much heavier and more powerful, arrives with a bigger thump and is less easily upset by the wind etc., and still works well out to 150yards or more. Ammo is cheaper than .17HMR as well.

 

So after careful thought it looks like my 17HMR is going in favour of the .22Magnum!

 

Deker

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

What Mag ye looking at, Decker; Just out of noseiness. Only I currently have a .22 Hornet, whilst my mate Dean O' has always used a .22 Rimmy and last week got himself a .17.

 

Now I'm looking to step down to a Mag myself and, just a few hours ago, Dean and I had an interesting chat. See; The longest shot I'm liable to get a chance of round here is going to be barely more than 100 yards. Granted, it won't be just squirrel sized. But the Hornet can handle it. BUT, the damn thing's more than capable of carrying on regardless and handling a whole lot more. In short; It takes a drawn out Juries Deliberation before I start squeezing that trigger, more often than not. Oh, and don't even get me started on the completely off the scale price of that damn round, Should I fire!

 

Guess what Dean O' told me only this afters? He'd been out round his own grounds and, upon finding target after target for his HMR, it was top teeth raking bottom lip time. Could he? Dare he fire? Thoughts of a miss sending that round into god knows where ..... I don't believe he got off a shot today Yes, Dean: Weclome to my nightmare!

 

So I want something too with enough Whack to do the job - without the possible risk of it following through and doing some moonlighting. .22 Mag should fit my own, limited, bill quite nicely. And I've set my heart on a Black Synthetic

 

Like I say, just for the craic; What's caught your eye?

[Deker 3,478]

What Mag ye looking at, Decker; Just out of noseiness. Only I currently have a .22 Hornet, whilst my mate Dean O' has always used a .22 Rimmy and last week got himself a .17.

 

Now I'm looking to step down to a Mag myself and, just a few hours ago, Dean and I had an interesting chat. See; The longest shot I'm liable to get a chance of round here is going to be barely more than 100 yards. Granted, it won't be just squirrel sized. But the Hornet can handle it. BUT, the damn thing's more than capable of carrying on regardless and handling a whole lot more. In short; It takes a drawn out Juries Deliberation before I start squeezing that trigger, more often than not. Oh, and don't even get me started on the completely off the scale price of that damn round, Should I fire!

 

Guess what Dean O' told me only this afters? He'd been out round his own grounds and, upon finding target after target for his HMR, it was top teeth raking bottom lip time. Could he? Dare he fire? Thoughts of a miss sending that round into god knows where ..... I don't believe he got off a shot today Yes, Dean: Weclome to my nightmare!

 

So I want something too with enough Whack to do the job - without the possible risk of it following through and doing some moonlighting. .22 Mag should fit my own, limited, bill quite nicely. And I've set my heart on a Black Synthetic

 

Like I say, just for the craic; What's caught your eye?

 

DS

I shall probably end up with a CZ American (WOOD). My .22LR and .223 are both black synthetic and I like them very much, but I like my wood as well! Ever since Sako finished the finnfire and brought in the quad I've gone off them, and the Anschutz is too heavy for me. Don't want a Ruger, Savage or Marlin.

Cheers

Deker

[Guest Ditch_Shitter]

Yeppers. Light does it for me too I'm no muscle man and handled a Remmington and they had to beat me to make me let go of it again! So light and well balanced. I'd probably still be stood there, free aiming it to this day.

 

I think I've since sussed out that certain rifles - maybe especially synth's? - are made to comply with some American target shooting rules criteria? Suits me.

 

But I equelly wonder if we could find such in wood? Either way, having poo pooed black for years now, synth' too ~ having never actually seen one in real life, let alone handled one ~ I'm now completely smitten. For me, it's Got To Be black synthetic.

 

I just wish I could find one in less than magazine clipped, bolt actioned, semi auto. But that looks like a lost cause. Saying that, having at least once now struggled to find the damn chamber with a round, as my quarry ambled off before my lamp? Maybe I could live with some back up after all?

 

Surprised ye don't want a Sako. I hear nice things of them. Except the scary price labels!

[wesm 0]

Most impressive shooting, sir, most impressive.

[Madcowz 0]

Fantastic work there on the cull.

 

I too make a special effort to shoot squirels whenever I am out and have had a good effect on the local woods. The local fly fishing club now has more tails than they can handle and the song birds will thank me in the spring.

 

/Mad

[stork 1]

is there 98 in the pic.................well done like the air rifle does the job well

[Ratcherman 0]

well done mate keep it going