leethedog 3,071 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) How about a boerboel Edited June 18, 2015 by leethedog 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUFFTY 1,476 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 The best guard dog you can get is my ex old woman. Looks like a boxerdog chewing a wasp. Got a deadly bite. Makes a hell of alot of racket. Don't eat much Oh and its black. If that helps. I think I went out with her litter mate I still have some pics of her around the house keeps rhe kids away from the fire and flies off the butter but turns the milk sour She's one of four litter sister's So you could possibly be right there Peter. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,977 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get a bullmastiff. Supposed to be great guard dogs had them in the 80s, they were good in the old days 1930s , when were used as keepers night dogs . but today bull mastiff are unfit,docile and to big to work proper, the old dogs were about -100lb fit agile dogs, todays pet stuff show stuff go up to 140lb slow+ bad hips ,the only bullmastiff I seen any good today was x to a pit it looked more like the old type bullmastiff of the 1930s. if wanted a good guard/watch dog get a well bred Alsatian from working lines, a 80lb male will stop any man , and be far more alert than any bullmastiff Agree 100% on the Bullmastiffs Ray Wouldn't have an Alsatian though,cant stand em how about Dutch shepherd or a bel mal , there good dogs , but bit more hyper than Alsatians . I love the colour of Dutch shepherds there great dog, they not been ruined / over bred , so very good working dogs , smaller than gsd , but stronger type than most mals. I think there got bit of bull in there make up years back, that gives them the brindle colour and full on temp .They still breed bull into them now if they think it will benefit them.My mate has one at the moment which is 1/8 bull and a very good 2 x winner at that. yep there top dogs dutch shepherds, that bit of bull worked well in them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 9,977 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 How about a boerboel might be bit better guard , but same again big heavy dogs like them have bad HD ,same as rotties and any big mastiff etc type breed . the only dog that a natural guard and for a big dog is healthy good hips etc powerful with strongest bite of any type dog , are Kangals . of all the big breeds the kangal supposed to most healthy , but don't think there easy to train stubborn type temp and not used to being stuck small place house ,garden etc , prob ok on a farm etc though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh_red 4,736 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Anatolian shepherds are good livestock guardians. Don't know about being used as a guard dog though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brewman 1,192 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Anatolian shepherds are good livestock guardians. Don't know about being used as a guard dog though I've heard they're best kept in pairs but will roam if given the chance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
offtheradar 175 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Gsd all the way for me, this one even bagged a cock pheasant in some brambles last week. Two dogs in one ? 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnipper 6,541 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 A farm near me have a couple of them karabash things and my arse is twitching when I get anywhere near the place. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
northern lad 2,292 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Get a bullmastiff. Supposed to be great guard dogs had them in the 80s, they were good in the old days 1930s , when were used as keepers night dogs . but today bull mastiff are unfit,docile and to big to work proper, the old dogs were about -100lb fit agile dogs, todays pet stuff show stuff go up to 140lb slow+ bad hips ,the only bullmastiff I seen any good today was x to a pit it looked more like the old type bullmastiff of the 1930s. if wanted a good guard/watch dog get a well bred Alsatian from working lines, a 80lb male will stop any man , and be far more alert than any bullmastiff Agree 100% on the Bullmastiffs Ray Wouldn't have an Alsatian though,cant stand em how about Dutch shepherd or a bel mal , there good dogs , but bit more hyper than Alsatians . I love the colour of Dutch shepherds there great dog, they not been ruined / over bred , so very good working dogs , smaller than gsd , but stronger type than most mals. I think there got bit of bull in there make up years back, that gives them the brindle colour and full on temp .They still breed bull into them now if they think it will benefit them.My mate has one at the moment which is 1/8 bull and a very good 2 x winner at that. yep there top dogs dutch shepherds, that bit of bull worked well in them Just not my kind of dog Ray,dont know why,just cant stand the look of them,as you said earlier the Bullmastiffs of today are big fat lumps ,neither use nor ornament,the one I had way back was athletic build,good movement(Naukeen lines) even back then though they were starting to become more mastiff in body and a lot more "bulldoggy"in the head,which obviously went hand in hand with the usual brachysephalic breathing problems Used to like the "Oldwell" lines if I remember correctly ...Barney in particular...looked fit for purpose without being over exaggerated.TBH I wouldn't own a guarding breed of any type now,just not worth the hassle,my dogs live in, so theft of them not an issue,if they were kennelled Id rather have alarms//CCTV 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leegreen 2,206 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Am after a guard dog if anyone has one for sale must be around 6 month, must be kennelled. After alsation really but will consider others close to kent as possible What do you need it for and how much do you wanna spend? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 Honestly I'd be very wary about bringing a 6 month old "guard dog" into you're home unless you know the person who has raised it up to that age well and you yourself are very experienced with guard dogs. Personally I'd want to be in charge of the crucial early socialisation of any dog I was bringing into my home, even more so when that dog is going to be taught to bite. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leethedog 3,071 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Bit big but a Caucasian shepherd a natural gard and very family protective Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BGD 6,436 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Bit big but a Caucasian shepherd a natural gard and very family protective Second pic is actually a Tibetan Mastiff I do like those Ovcharkas but I think they're too much dog for this country especially with the current laws... Edited June 19, 2015 by BGD 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leethedog 3,071 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Yeah I know smart arse but pictures were linked lol;) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pie-eater 377 Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 A bloke not far from me has a boerbel, formidable looking dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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