First Lady Visits East London School

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but there's just as many (if not more) white estates where that's the case as there are majority BME.

 

Just out of interest.......where ?

Moss Side, Croxteth, Norris Green and all the lovely little shitholes along the South East coast for a start

I see....wasnt being funny just genuinely curious as theres none in London at all.

Agree with you there all the roughest areas in London are majority BME but up north and along the coast where industry has been decimated and there's huge populations of white Britains below the poverty line it's the white estates you want to avoid.

 

Makes you think maybe the problem with these "no go" estates is a poverty issue rather than a race issue

 

No i dont buy that mate.....as an example,i grew up in shithole parts of East London,real toilet council estates for the most part......at a guess id say they were 60 - 70 % white estates in those days......they were hard rough estates mostly due to the poverty of the area but they wasnt particularly dangerous in terms of street crime/attacks and so on............yet today those same estates and same areas which are still very poor places are now very dangerous and the only thing that has changed is the racial % whereby whites are now down to maybe 10 - 20 %...............common sense points to it being a race issue.

Edited June 23, 2015 by gnasher16

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but there's just as many (if not more) white estates where that's the case as there are majority BME.

 

Just out of interest.......where ?

Moss Side, Croxteth, Norris Green and all the lovely little shitholes along the South East coast for a start

I see....wasnt being funny just genuinely curious as theres none in London at all.

Agree with you there all the roughest areas in London are majority BME but up north and along the coast where industry has been decimated and there's huge populations of white Britains below the poverty line it's the white estates you want to avoid.

 

Makes you think maybe the problem with these "no go" estates is a poverty issue rather than a race issue

No i dont buy that mate.....as an example,i grew up in shithole parts of East London,real toilet council estates for the most part......at a guess id say they were 60 - 70 % white estates in those days......they were hard rough estates mostly due to the poverty of the area but they wasnt particularly dangerous in terms of street crime/attacks and so on............yet today those same estates and same areas which are still very poor places are now very dangerous and the only thing that has changed is the racial % whereby whites are now down to maybe 10 - 20 %...............common sense points to it being a race issue.

That doesn't explain why the white estates in other areas turned to shit at the same sort of time though I'm not saying I've got the answers but when its happening all over the country no matter the demographic of the area you have to ask these questions. A big part of it could well be the spread of heroin and crack in the 80s, we're dealing with a generation of inner city youths raised by smack and crack heads, probably born addicted to the shit themselves and obviously with the drug trade came the violence to control it and the petty crimes to fund habits, the decent hard working folk move away and then the only role models on the estate for younguns are the dealers and the cycle continues.

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That doesn't explain why the white estates in other areas turned to shit at the same sort of time though I'm not saying I've got the answers but when its happening all over the country no matter the demographic of the area you have to ask these questions. A big part of it could well be the spread of heroin and crack in the 80s, we're dealing with a generation of inner city youths raised by smack and crack heads, probably born addicted to the shit themselves and obviously with the drug trade came the violence to control it and the petty crimes to fund habits, the decent hard working folk move away and then the only role models on the estate for younguns are the dealers and the cycle continues.

 

And in a national heroin trade of which 90% is controlled by Turks....where blacks are 6 times more likely than whites to commit drug crimes etc etc you cant see any connection at all to race ?

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That doesn't explain why the white estates in other areas turned to shit at the same sort of time though I'm not saying I've got the answers but when its happening all over the country no matter the demographic of the area you have to ask these questions. A big part of it could well be the spread of heroin and crack in the 80s, we're dealing with a generation of inner city youths raised by smack and crack heads, probably born addicted to the shit themselves and obviously with the drug trade came the violence to control it and the petty crimes to fund habits, the decent hard working folk move away and then the only role models on the estate for younguns are the dealers and the cycle continues.

 

And in a national heroin trade of which 90% is controlled by Turks....where blacks are 6 times more likely than whites to commit drug crimes etc etc you cant see any connection at all to race ?

Blacks more likely to commit drug related offences, blacks more likely to live below the poverty line. I'm still seeing a poverty issue rather than a race issue.

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I think what Gnasher is saying is that if you stand two identical blokes together both of who have a similar level of income except one of them is 6 times more likely to commit drug related crime, then don't you think it's fair to have a good hard look at the bloke more inclined to commit the crime ?

 

I happen to agree with you last post but one but I would argue that the degeneration of or society through the mass immigration of people who conduct themselves well below our traditional standards has not helped at all.

 

We have always had scumbags, Hogarth did a whole series of paintings about it hundreds of years ago but I would argue it was nowhere near the level we have now and we showed it nothing like as much tolerance.

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The spread of crack and heroin in the ,s coincided with the thin end of the wedge of inner city shit holes being created by Jonny foreigner....

 

And for some reason been encouraged by every government since .....

[gnasher16 30,118]

 

 

That doesn't explain why the white estates in other areas turned to shit at the same sort of time though I'm not saying I've got the answers but when its happening all over the country no matter the demographic of the area you have to ask these questions. A big part of it could well be the spread of heroin and crack in the 80s, we're dealing with a generation of inner city youths raised by smack and crack heads, probably born addicted to the shit themselves and obviously with the drug trade came the violence to control it and the petty crimes to fund habits, the decent hard working folk move away and then the only role models on the estate for younguns are the dealers and the cycle continues.

 

And in a national heroin trade of which 90% is controlled by Turks....where blacks are 6 times more likely than whites to commit drug crimes etc etc you cant see any connection at all to race ?

Blacks more likely to commit drug related offences, blacks more likely to live below the poverty line. I'm still seeing a poverty issue rather than a race issue.

 

Exactly......and like i say poverty was always here so if blacks are more likely to commit drug related offences and there are more blacks here than years ago how can it not be a race issue ?............dont be afraid to say it !

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but there's just as many (if not more) white estates where that's the case as there are majority BME.

 

Just out of interest.......where ?

Moss Side, Croxteth, Norris Green and all the lovely little shitholes along the South East coast for a start

I see....wasnt being funny just genuinely curious as theres none in London at all.

Agree with you there all the roughest areas in London are majority BME but up north and along the coast where industry has been decimated and there's huge populations of white Britains below the poverty line it's the white estates you want to avoid.

 

Makes you think maybe the problem with these "no go" estates is a poverty issue rather than a race issue

No i dont buy that mate.....as an example,i grew up in shithole parts of East London,real toilet council estates for the most part......at a guess id say they were 60 - 70 % white estates in those days......they were hard rough estates mostly due to the poverty of the area but they wasnt particularly dangerous in terms of street crime/attacks and so on............yet today those same estates and same areas which are still very poor places are now very dangerous and the only thing that has changed is the racial % whereby whites are now down to maybe 10 - 20 %...............common sense points to it being a race issue.

That doesn't explain why the white estates in other areas turned to shit at the same sort of time though I'm not saying I've got the answers but when its happening all over the country no matter the demographic of the area you have to ask these questions. A big part of it could well be the spread of heroin and crack in the 80s, we're dealing with a generation of inner city youths raised by smack and crack heads, probably born addicted to the shit themselves and obviously with the drug trade came the violence to control it and the petty crimes to fund habits, the decent hard working folk move away and then the only role models on the estate for younguns are the dealers and the cycle continues.

 

 

 

Bollocks,I know there are no areas in England at least where being the wrong ethnicity hugely increases the chance of you getting attacked,robbed or raped.

 

How do you think 'poverty' in England today compares to the 20's 30's and 40's i.e when there were very few of them?

When rape,muggings and random murders were far less common.

 

Completely flawed logic only a person looking for an excuse could find acceptable.

 

we don't mix,there can be no compromise,it's just delaying the inevitable.

[desertbred 5,490]

Never mind fracking, just tell me if we have managed to convince Desertbred to f**k off yet ? Lol lol

I notice you f****d off and Deserted this fair and pleasant isle before I have Wilf whats up no staying power

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hetQrocFFg

[oneredtrim 148]

They were our own problem tho ORT

Why import other Countries undesirables.

I bet those Scuttlers still fought for England and Great Britain as would other young British Hoodlums from Glasgow down to the smoke in every major town city or even village .

 

 

 

I feel no personal pride in Our problems being mongy enough to stab folk with the misfortune of looking slightly wealthier than them and i'm almost positive such a mindset would be gagging to sign up for a black and tan outfit to go searching for weapons of mass destruction.

 

Your NS suggestion Max though often quoted seems to be historically not far off the mark, the formation of youth clubs and association football put the skids under the skuttles.

 

We used to run the gauntlet with Ancoats getting home from town half-cut, lark and half, 80yrs later the offsprogs were still at, got run over once by a vauxhall cavalier cause they reckoned i was dibbled out of me bollox (too clean shaven apparently), good job i was'nt pakied-up..so to speak.

[nans pat 2,575]

an asylum seeker catched a leprecon and gets granted 3 wishs to let him go,

first.i want a big house,,pow it appears

second,i want a million pounds,,pow it appears.

third,i want to be british,,pow its all gone.what happened he says,leprecon sez your british now mate your entitled to fook all,

[Welsh_red 4,644]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

but there's just as many (if not more) white estates where that's the case as there are majority BME.

 

Just out of interest.......where ?

Moss Side, Croxteth, Norris Green and all the lovely little shitholes along the South East coast for a start

I see....wasnt being funny just genuinely curious as theres none in London at all.

Agree with you there all the roughest areas in London are majority BME but up north and along the coast where industry has been decimated and there's huge populations of white Britains below the poverty line it's the white estates you want to avoid.

 

Makes you think maybe the problem with these "no go" estates is a poverty issue rather than a race issue

No i dont buy that mate.....as an example,i grew up in shithole parts of East London,real toilet council estates for the most part......at a guess id say they were 60 - 70 % white estates in those days......they were hard rough estates mostly due to the poverty of the area but they wasnt particularly dangerous in terms of street crime/attacks and so on............yet today those same estates and same areas which are still very poor places are now very dangerous and the only thing that has changed is the racial % whereby whites are now down to maybe 10 - 20 %...............common sense points to it being a race issue.

That doesn't explain why the white estates in other areas turned to shit at the same sort of time though I'm not saying I've got the answers but when its happening all over the country no matter the demographic of the area you have to ask these questions. A big part of it could well be the spread of heroin and crack in the 80s, we're dealing with a generation of inner city youths raised by smack and crack heads, probably born addicted to the shit themselves and obviously with the drug trade came the violence to control it and the petty crimes to fund habits, the decent hard working folk move away and then the only role models on the estate for younguns are the dealers and the cycle continues.

 

Bollocks,I know there are no areas in England at least where being the wrong ethnicity hugely increases the chance of you getting attacked,robbed or raped.

 

How do you think 'poverty' in England today compares to the 20's 30's and 40's i.e when there were very few of them?

When rape,muggings and random murders were far less common.

 

Completely flawed logic only a person looking for an excuse could find acceptable.

 

we don't mix,there can be no compromise,it's just delaying the inevitable.

Without fanning the flames I don't think the early to middle 1900's were that idyllic. There was a world war that took most of the male population away and I doubt the response to a rape claim would have been treated with the same severity as today. Muggings would have been less as people disn't walk around with 400 quid phones on them. And there was still murders all over Britain. It's just their was no real csi style investigating back then. Edited June 24, 2015 by tobirees

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Of course their was shit, just it was our shit and we knew how to deal with it and did .

[Welsh_red 4,644]

National service is a decent idea. But I think the % of people it will sort out will b minimal. Also not sure I pike the thought of the little thugs that roam the streets being given guns