Guest vin Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Whats the law on having for instance my Webley Tempest Pistol in my glove box for a quick shot at pigeons etc etc ? Or my AA S200 rifle on or behind the back seat,in the gunbag etc etc..? Where do I stand with the Law ? I have Permissions local and in other various places. I often sit having a break and wish I had the air rifle to noble a few wood pigeons etc etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
forest of dean redneck 11,855 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Not sure on the pistol in the glovebox,but rifle in gun bag ,I cannot see why they would moan,though wouldn't it go rusty in winter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smithie 2,444 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think if the gun has a mag it must be removed from the gun and mag must be empty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobcullen79 1,495 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think if you have any sort of previous, then its in the slip and in the boot... Just aint worth the bother theses days. Example - Me and 3 pals were shooting over some waste ground and woodland, shot over there for years with no problems, mainly plinking with the odd pigeon and squirrel... Then as the new housing estate started getting built and inhabited, more and more people started using this bit of ground. Next thing you know is, Im face down with a shitload of armed response present and a helicopter going round above us. They rounded the rest of us up. One lad stashed his rifle and me and the other two got caught with ours, yet I was the only one to get arrested and charged and also the only one to get my rifle permanently confiscated on the grounds of previous (No previous weapons charges.) I dont know why I bought a new 95k to be honest, I dont take it out. Just not worth it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest vin Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 would the pistol be ok if it was in some sort of bag/box ? does it need to be a locked box ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blackdog92 2,047 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I asked a police officer about this a while ago and he said you can have one in the car aslong as you have a reason for it being there. I told them i keep mine in the van most of the time for while im at work for pest control and they had no problem with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think if you have any sort of previous, then its in the slip and in the boot... Just aint worth the bother theses days. Example - Me and 3 pals were shooting over some waste ground and woodland, shot over there for years with no problems, mainly plinking with the odd pigeon and squirrel... Then as the new housing estate started getting built and inhabited, more and more people started using this bit of ground. Next thing you know is, Im face down with a shitload of armed response present and a helicopter going round above us. They rounded the rest of us up. One lad stashed his rifle and me and the other two got caught with ours, yet I was the only one to get arrested and charged and also the only one to get my rifle permanently confiscated on the grounds of previous (No previous weapons charges.) I dont know why I bought a new 95k to be honest, I dont take it out. Just not worth it. Bob, you are either banned from holding firearms, or you are not, which is it? If you are not banned, then providing you are shooting on permission, you are acting entirely within the law, if you are banned, I suggest you dispose of the hw95 rather quickly, in this day and age, if you are shooting on ground where you do not have authority, you only have yourself to blame, I am afraid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neil82 1,087 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I asked a police officer about this a while ago and he said you can have one in the car aslong as you have a reason for it being there. I told them i keep mine in the van most of the time for while im at work for pest control and they had no problem with it. that's it in a nutshell, you have to have a reason for it being there, just carrying it with you on the off chance of having a shot is a no no, if its part of your job (agriculture, pest control) you might get away with it, remember your motor is still classed as a public place, find a fishing club locally that has a mink problem, get a letter off them asking you to control them, put a couple of traps out (not necessarily set), and you have to carry some sort of humane killer when checking them, as this has to be done daily its not practical to go home every time to collect your gun so you could then justify carrying it (this is my opinion only, if you try it and get copped, why did you get pulled in the first place) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unlacedgecko 1,467 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think if you have any sort of previous, then its in the slip and in the boot... Just aint worth the bother theses days. Example - Me and 3 pals were shooting over some waste ground and woodland, shot over there for years with no problems, mainly plinking with the odd pigeon and squirrel... Then as the new housing estate started getting built and inhabited, more and more people started using this bit of ground. Next thing you know is, Im face down with a shitload of armed response present and a helicopter going round above us. They rounded the rest of us up. One lad stashed his rifle and me and the other two got caught with ours, yet I was the only one to get arrested and charged and also the only one to get my rifle permanently confiscated on the grounds of previous (No previous weapons charges.) I dont know why I bought a new 95k to be honest, I dont take it out. Just not worth it. Bob, you are either banned from holding firearms, or you are not, which is it? If you are not banned, then providing you are shooting on permission, you are acting entirely within the law, if you are banned, I suggest you dispose of the hw95 rather quickly, in this day and age, if you are shooting on ground where you do not have authority, you only have yourself to blame, I am afraid. Surelyna firearms ban (by which I'm assuming you mean a custodial sentence of 5yrs or more) would have no affect in one's ability to own and possess sub 12ft/lb air weapons? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobcullen79 1,495 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think if you have any sort of previous, then its in the slip and in the boot... Just aint worth the bother theses days. Example - Me and 3 pals were shooting over some waste ground and woodland, shot over there for years with no problems, mainly plinking with the odd pigeon and squirrel... Then as the new housing estate started getting built and inhabited, more and more people started using this bit of ground. Next thing you know is, Im face down with a shitload of armed response present and a helicopter going round above us. They rounded the rest of us up. One lad stashed his rifle and me and the other two got caught with ours, yet I was the only one to get arrested and charged and also the only one to get my rifle permanently confiscated on the grounds of previous (No previous weapons charges.) I dont know why I bought a new 95k to be honest, I dont take it out. Just not worth it. Bob, you are either banned from holding firearms, or you are not, which is it? If you are not banned, then providing you are shooting on permission, you are acting entirely within the law, if you are banned, I suggest you dispose of the hw95 rather quickly, in this day and age, if you are shooting on ground where you do not have authority, you only have yourself to blame, I am afraid. Where did I say I was banned? Where did I say permission? Do you not think I learnt my lesson and the law as a younger man, hence not taking it out.(unless I`m on permission). Do you not remember a by gone era where you were pretty safe to walk round the local wood and provided you were sensible, you got left alone? I do, down here and up north. You seem to think you know a fair bit, yet didnt answer the original OP`s question 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
torchey 1,328 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I can remember driving around the local industrial area with the airguns out the window the old bill never batted an eyelid,,reckon if you tried it now they,d shoot ya lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charlie caller 3,654 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think if you have any sort of previous, then its in the slip and in the boot... Just aint worth the bother theses days. Example - Me and 3 pals were shooting over some waste ground and woodland, shot over there for years with no problems, mainly plinking with the odd pigeon and squirrel... Then as the new housing estate started getting built and inhabited, more and more people started using this bit of ground. Next thing you know is, Im face down with a shitload of armed response present and a helicopter going round above us. They rounded the rest of us up. One lad stashed his rifle and me and the other two got caught with ours, yet I was the only one to get arrested and charged and also the only one to get my rifle permanently confiscated on the grounds of previous (No previous weapons charges.) I dont know why I bought a new 95k to be honest, I dont take it out. Just not worth it. Bob, you are either banned from holding firearms, or you are not, which is it? If you are not banned, then providing you are shooting on permission, you are acting entirely within the law, if you are banned, I suggest you dispose of the hw95 rather quickly, in this day and age, if you are shooting on ground where you do not have authority, you only have yourself to blame, I am afraid. Where did I say I was banned? Where did I say permission? Do you not think I learnt my lesson and the law as a younger man, hence not taking it out.(unless I`m on permission). Do you not remember a by gone era where you were pretty safe to walk round the local wood and provided you were sensible, you got left alone? I do, down here and up north. You seem to think you know a fair bit, yet didnt answer the original OP`s question You did not Bob, however you DID say it was not worth taking it out, which led me to believe you were in fear of being prosecuted for some felony,hence my question about being banned,and Unlacedgeko, for the purpose of a firearms ban, a sub 12ftlbs air rifle is a firearm, just as if you commit armed trespass, the air rifle is classed as a firearm,sec21 of the 1968 firearms act prohibits anyone serving a three month + prison sentence from owning an air rifle for 5 years, longer sentences MAY attract a lifetime ban. And yes I can remember the good old days when we used to wander where we liked, now more or less gone forever, sadly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ftm 3,357 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 years ago me &mate were coming home from a bit lamping with air rifle we would drive lanes etc quick flick of lamp and bag a few bunnies we had a webley Vulcan I think -anyway on way home cops flag us down and ask where we been etc " just shooting a few bunnies" seemed ok with the "good cop" big ginger "bad cop" was a different kettle of fish -he took rifle out of boot and put it to my mates head! saying how would you like it if I shot you? we were bricking it lol good cop intervened and took rifle off him and put it back in boot and sent us on way I wont ever forget that incedent -imagine nowadays I would be sueing him for all sorts lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DIDO.1 22,852 Posted June 17, 2015 Report Share Posted June 17, 2015 Same with anything these days....make sure you can justify it before you do it. A farm truck or a pest controllers van with a secure gun well hidden is different to a car, in a town with a gun in glovebox. I'd keep it in a locked solid case in the boot if I was you...forget legal points, make things simple for yourself 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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